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The Everything NFL Thread - 2013-2014 Edition

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So far, we have out the door:

Kubiak, Texans
Chudzinski, Browns
Schwartz, Lions
Frazier, Vikings
Schiano, Bucs
Shanahan, Redskins

Needless to say, lot of positions opening up. Only the Browns one is arguably a bit odd, but it's being ran by former Patriots guys who want to hire a (former) Patriots coach to turn the team into the Patriots of Cleveland apparently. The rest of the firings are unsurprising for the most part.
 
Shinryu things are quite good for a HC in Cleveland (despite the fact they can be fired after one year). They have 10 picks in the draft and a heck of a space in cap and 5 Pro Bowlers. I completely disagree with the firing, though. Think Chud should have another year to try to prove his worth.
 
Prof. Almeida said:
Shinryu things are quite good for a HC in Cleveland (despite the fact they can be fired after one year). They have 10 picks in the draft and a heck of a space in cap and 5 Pro Bowlers. I completely disagree with the firing, though. Think Chud should have another year to try to prove his worth.
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why would any HC want to go to cleveland now? you apparently have a year long leash to not have a bad season or else you get canned. not only was firing chud a bad idea but it's basically hurt them for the future right now...have fun with a shitty coach like mcdaniels browns...i hope the whole team refuses to play if its true that hes the guy they want
 
okay this pisses me off. The Lions fired Schwartz today. I nearly cried in joy because he was a God-awful coach. All my Lions friends on Facebook were cheering about them firing Schwartz. First of all, I should feel like an asshole for cheering and begging for a man who works 100 hours a week to lose his job. I don't care; I want that asshole booted from Detroit like a David Akers missed field goal.

No. The worst part of this is how happy I was at the Lions, the same group of assholes who tied me up and wasted four months of my life on this emotional rollercoaster of stupidity before saying "fuck it, we don't care" after Week 12. I should hate this team. Everyone who likes this team should hate them.

I draw happiness from someone being punished for the Lions losing. And every other Lions fan (and Buccaneers fan, Vikings fan, Texans fan, etc.) should both be thrilled and feel like assholes for their coach being fired.

Also, last night I started looking at college players and where the Lions would be drafting, etc. Then I realized: "Wait, who the fuck cares who these bumblefucks draft? The Lions had an amazing draft last year and found a way to fuck it up! They could draft the next Deion Sanders, he could end up with 18 interceptions on his own, but then the Lions would just do exactly less than enough to make the playoffs!"

Whatever, angry fan rant over. Go Lions, Super Bowl XLIX, "this is the year", etc. #onepride #megatron
 
The Lions have decent talent honestly, they just need to fix their chemistry issues. Obviously Schwartz was not the kind of coach who could unify the locker room, so letting him go was the right move. With a talented defense, serviceable QB, Bush and Megatron they have enough pieces in place already to be a serious playoff contender. If they can find a coach who will be able to control the nonsense from guys like Suh and command respect from the locker room, they will be an EXTREMELY dangerous team. I hope they are able to find such a coach, since that town is long overdue for football glory.
 
kd24 said:
why would any HC want to go to cleveland now? you apparently have a year long leash to not have a bad season or else you get canned. not only was firing chud a bad idea but it's basically hurt them for the future right now...have fun with a shitty coach like mcdaniels browns...i hope the whole team refuses to play if its true that hes the guy they want
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As I said the only bad thing there is the lack of job security, since someone will really need to get a big signing bonus to diminish the possible firing in one year. But they have some talent, they do have 10 picks in the draft and they'll have plenty of cap space, plus the fact that the new HC can possibly have more management powers. Despite the job security part, it's kind of attractive. Not as attractive as having Stafford, Megatron and Bush, but it's attracting.
 
Prof. Almeida said:
What's your opinion on this:

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/will-the-nfl-take-away-peytons-record/

???
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Doesn't really matter. Peyton could have dropped 500 yards that game before the start of the 4th quarter but didn't because he(and fox) try to be classy unlike Brees and Payton(even if i fully support Paytons agressiveness) or whatever. Point still stands, had teams in general not been garbage compared to the Broncos Peyton could have thrown for 6000 yards and dropped 60 TDs. He had the greatest passing season ever by a qb, made brees 2011 and bradys 2007 season look like complete garbage and is on his way to earn his 5th MVP, more than Montana, Brees and Brady COMBINED.
 
I'm pretty sure they've taken away league records before, to not do so now would just hang a spotlight on the NFL's hardon for Manning this season. So they probably won't take it away.
 
:O when did the metal negroid become a mod?

Wildcard Weekend:

Chargers @ Bengals

Chiefs @ Colts

49ers @ Packers

Saints @ Eagles


Divisional Round:

Chargers @ Broncos

Chiefs @ Patriots

49ers @ Seahawks

Eagles @ Panthers


Championship Round:

Patriots @ Broncos
Panthers @ Seahawks

Superbowl XLVIII:

Broncos vs Seahawks

Pretty much just picked the better team and ignored homefield advantage in the wild card rounds (except Saints vs Eagles because the Saints on the road are a 3-13 team and the Saints at home are a 14-2 team)
 
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Well guess the Broncos should have let Manning cushion his record even more if they decide to take away his record, which would suck considering Manning could easily have been 100 or more over if he stayed in longer.
 
theamericandream38 how are the Chiefs better than the Colts? They're 1-5 vs Playoff teams this year (which coincidentally, were the only teams over .500 they played this year), with the only win coming vs the Michael Vick-led Eagles early in the season. Meanwhile, the Colts are 4-2 vs Playoff teams this year, are playing at home, and have momentum (since you know, they beat the Chiefs two weeks ago really solidly).

You also have the 49ers beating the Packers (which I agree with), then have the Packers losing to Seattle but I assume that's just a typo.
 
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theamericandream38 how are the Chiefs better than the Colts? They're 1-5 vs Playoff teams this year (which coincidentally, were the only teams over .500 they played this year), with the only win coming vs the Michael Vick-led Eagles early in the season. Meanwhile, the Colts are 4-2 vs Playoff teams this year, are playing at home, and have momentum (since you know, they beat the Chiefs two weeks ago really solidly).

You also have the 49ers beating the Packers (which I agree with), then have the Packers losing to Seattle but I assume that's just a typo.
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Yeah good catch I messed up the copy/paste

I agree that the Chiefs are on the downswing compared to the colts but I was terribly unimpressed by Indianapolis during the middle of the season (barely beat Houston and Tennessee (twice) and got absolutely demolished by the Rams and Cardinals), so I think I have a lower opinion of them than I should. That game could easily go the other way (especially because Indy is at home) but I doubt the winner will advance any further in the playoffs.
 
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Doesn't really matter. Peyton could have dropped 500 yards that game before the start of the 4th quarter but didn't because he(and fox) try to be classy unlike Brees and Payton(even if i fully support Paytons agressiveness) or whatever. Point still stands, had teams in general not been garbage compared to the Broncos Peyton could have thrown for 6000 yards and dropped 60 TDs. He had the greatest passing season ever by a qb, made brees 2011 and bradys 2007 season look like complete garbage and is on his way to earn his 5th MVP, more than Montana, Brees and Brady COMBINED.
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LOL class?! He threw 28 times in one half vs the raiders. How is that class?
And considering Brady not only beat Peyton this year and in 2007, don't see how you can say it's better. But clearly you're a manning fan and won't ever understand anything. The only record that truly matters is manning under .500 in the post season. You also don't know Dan Marino in the 80s. Back when the NFL had defense.

This was his first game under 35 attempts and he only played one half. Imagine if Brady in 2007 threw as much as Peyton did this year. Also, Rodgers in 2011 had a better year than Peyton this year.

Lmao....class....
 
CocaCola-is-BETTER said:
LOL class?! He threw 28 times in one half vs the raiders. How is that class?
And considering Brady not only beat Peyton this year and in 2007, don't see how you can say it's better. But clearly you're a manning fan and won't ever understand anything. The only record that truly matters is manning under .500 in the post season. You also don't know Dan Marino in the 80s. Back when the NFL had defense.

This was his first game under 35 attempts and he only played one half. Imagine if Brady in 2007 threw as much as Peyton did this year. Also, Rodgers in 2011 had a better year than Peyton this year.

Lmao....class....
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Short passes are just what the Broncos had in the gameplan for the Raiders. Manning passed 25 times in the first half of the first game against Oakland! It certainly wasn't from a lack of class that the Broncos were passing so often... unless you consider "winning" to be classless.
 
BETTER, I do not think you understand what winning in the NFL takes. You execute your schemes, you rigorously practice executing them. People are upset about Brees, Belichick, and whoever else for "stat padding" and running up the score. It all accrues to more victories though, whoever can execute the best schemes tends to win the Super Bowl in a season, and you can see from Brees' playoff record (all but 1 game he has at least 2 TDs) that the players that whore for the most touchdowns become the most innately best at getting them when defenses are tighter and games mean more. I would also argue that you can see from Patriots immaculate amount of championship game appearances (only a couple of teams in history parallel the continued stretch), even without the Super Bowls I think them ingraining their best game plan into themselves week in week out as Belichick always searches for the absolute best game plans is what keeps them near the Super Bowl almost every season no matter what pieces are around on defense or who the hell Brady has to throw to or how good or bad his OL is.

Some people would argue that running up the score makes you "too arrogant", but obviously I disagree with that. I definitely think it is impolite and that when you lead by 30 points with a quarter left, of course you should bench your starters to protect them from injury. At halftime a game is not out of reach though, you gun with everything you have no matter what the score is, this ain't college ball.
 
ugh the Lions are interviewing Jim Caldwell? Really? The offensive coordinator of the Ravens who watched the Ravens' offense turn to complete shit last year? Detroit needs a guy who can work with Stafford and reduce his mental mistakes; the guy who coached Flacco to a 22-pick season is not that man. Also, if that man can turn Ray Rice into trash I shudder to think what he can do with Reggie Bush. Caldwell was only a decent head coach when he was really Peyton Manning's assistant HC. When Peyton left, Caldwell's Colts went 2-14. Peyton turns mediocre coaches (John Fox, and honestly "mediocre" might be too complimentary for Fox) into "geniuses". I hope the Chargers lose in the first round so Detroit can hire Ken Whisenhunt. Whisenhunt should take the job if the Lions offer it since Detroit is the only team without a coach that isn't a rebuilding project. Lovie Smith is okay, but the Lions need a guy who can coach offense. Matthew Stafford turning into a rookie over the second half of the season was the one reason why the goddamn Green Bay Packers bullshat their way to a division title. Gunther Cunningham is an okay defensive coordinator and Schwartz (and GM Martin Mayhew!) does deserve credit for turning the Lions' D-line into one of, if not the, best in the league. Also the Lions probably have the most underrated linebacking corps in the NFL.

Also, boo-hoo if a team runs up the score. These are professional football players making seven figure salaries for the sole purpose of not letting other teams score on them. You're making millions of dollars: if you want teams to not run up the score then find the guy with the football and put him on his ass.

Also, for fun, NFC North QB Power Rankings - Final Edition:
1. Rodgers
2. McCown
3. Stafford
4. Cutler
5. Ponder
6. Cassel
7. Flynn
8. Freeman

You could switch Ponder and Cutler and I wouldn't be mad. I give Cutler the edge because he really did play a decent game against the Packers Week 17.

come on chicago bears sign cutler to a long-term deal please please he's so bad and i want to watch ndamukong suh beat the shit out of his arrogant ass twice a year please do it come on i believe in you bears

fuck yeah they signed cutler until 2020 have fun in the basement bears lololol
 
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John Fox did get to a Super Bowl with Jake Delhomme, so I think he deserves a little more credit than you are giving him.

Also, while these are all professional players and theoretically should be on equal footing, we all know some teams are vastly superior to others. If it were as simple as "just stop them from scoring", you wouldn't have teams dropping 55+ points. Running up the score on an obviously weaker and outmatched team doesn't challenge you or make you better, it's essentially just another "practice". Many people disagree with me of course, but I do firmly believe in the importance of sportsmanship and respect in sports at all levels, even professional. I find stat padding and running up the score to be very unsportsmanlike, and the little tangible benefit they provide to you "practicing execution" is outweighed by the disrespect of it toward the integrity of the game. This is all my opinion, though, so don't over-analyze.

That being said, I don't believe Peyton was stat padding against Oakland or running up the score. If he had wanted to do that, Fox would have left him in during the entire second half.
 
Please define "integrity of the game" when:

a) The purpose of the game is to score points, and hopefully more than your opponent
b) When you score points, you give your team a greater chance of winning regardless of the current score
c) When you score more points (or prevent more points from being scored), you get a higher salary
d) Players and coaches on every team routinely cheat or bend the rules to gain an advantage
 
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