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Even though he missed 3 games, he's 15th in total yards (within 100 yards of moving up to 12th), and 4th in TDs.

Also the fact that the team was 7-2 with him starting this year. As opposed to 1-2 without him, and realistically with him they most likely would have beaten the Rams. We'll see soon enough how he fares against the Giants D though.
 
ITT Adrian Peterson just fumbled his way out of the MVP race today by doubling his fumble total on the season.
 
ITT It didn't effect the game at all because none of his fumbles were lost (he also fumbled only 3 times, get it right if you are going to insult him please). At least AP doesn't turn the ball over and lose the game for his team like a certain someone on one of my fantasy teams ^___^ The Vikings still barely won against the Lions :[ Also ITT T-Joke is a better QB than Gus Frerotte.
 
Glad that the Lions are 0-13.
There complete scum and will be the first team to ever go winless.

But in other news...
Bears won, and so did the vikings... The only way it's going to be possible for he Bears to go to the playoffs is to win all of their games.
 
Refs continue their downward spiral in what has EASILY been their worst year officiating ever. I'd bet we've had a record number of safeties, too, and everyone's going for it on 4th down these days. It's a strange new NFL world we live in...

ITT It didn't effect the game at all because none of his fumbles were lost (he also fumbled only 3 times, get it right if you are going to insult him please). At least AP doesn't turn the ball over and lose the game for his team like a certain someone on one of my fantasy teams ^___^ The Vikings still barely won against the Lions :[ Also ITT T-Joke is a better QB than Gus Frerotte.

Fumbles are fumbles. It's obviously better to hold onto them, but it still shows he can't hold onto the damn ball and isn't reliable in crunch time. And excuuuuse me, one of the otherwise four fumbles (the third one) was challenged and reversed. Too bad you're still wrong.

Funny how the Lions' two best games came against the Vikings, shame they couldn't finish the job. :/
 
attn: dan snyder/vinny cerrato

draft linemen you sons of bitches

fucking draft linemen or i swear to god...

jason campbell is an borderline-elite qb and you are going to fucking ruin him because you spend picks on jason taylor/tj duckett/brandon lloyd/taylor jacobs/ladell betts/fred davis (we drafted a te on the first day with a probowler on the roster what the fuck)/more random crap i can't name

21/37 about 200 yards against the fucking ravens

2 ints but one was garbage time the other was the wrs fault (our pass-catchers are complete crap)

oh btw he was sacked about 5 times

i am so pissed
 
It was nice to see Steelers win over Cowboys, talk about a close game though. Also nice to see 49ers win over the Jets, even though the damn Cardinals won and clinched the division (though given that they were playing the Rams, it was inevitable).
 
I'd love to see what would happen if Romo had the Washingon offense around him.

Key stat: Projected Sacks Tony Romo: 14 (let's assume he's sacked 6 times in the three games he missed)
Projected Sacks Jason Campbell: 42

Again, Tony Romo gets TO, a good group of WRs every year, an elite offensive line, a playmaking defense, a star RB.

Campbell gets a star RB who has no depth behind him and has to carry the team offensively, a #2 WR pretending to be a #1, a #4 WR pretending to be a #2 (randle el is a terrible football player on both offense and special teams) a great TE, an absolutely horrendous offensive line, and a good defense that doesn't make many big plays.

And they say Campbell's the problem in Washington.
 
Joe the Quarterback is making news in Baltimore. I have been impressed this year by rookie qbs Flacco and matt Ryan without any doubt.

Baltimore did exactly what I had them doing, winning out all games from oakland to the redskins, except the giants. Right now, they could lose to the Steelers at Baltimore and I won't care (although i definitely will be rooting for baltimore). Jacksonville is easily winnable (10 wins) and then I think we can beat dallas pretty easy (although it could be an emotion game for dallas, last game in the stadium).

Denver also will get a home playoff game because san diego now has to win the last 3 games (they are so inconsistent that i dont think they will do it) and must have denver lose their last 3.

What a great season to be a ravens/broncos fan :D
 
Fumbles are fumbles. It's obviously better to hold onto them, but it still shows he can't hold onto the damn ball and isn't reliable in crunch time.

Hmm... sounds a lot like another guy I know... In any case, I guess you totally forgot about week 10 when he put the team on his back and accounted for 64 of the 69 yards on the game-winning drive, including the touchdown run.
 
I didn't "forget" any more than I "forget" TO bickering about getting the ball more after the first Washington game when he had more than a third of the team's touches and Dallas only ran the ball 11 times. Adrian Peterson is a good back but why would he deserve MVP consideration over another back who's been an equally integral part of his team with similar production without the huge number of fumbles? (Not to mention the other back's more impressive contribution in the passing game, both receiving and blocking.) Warner gets ragged on for his fumbles and Romo gets ragged on for his INTs. WRs get ragged on for dropping passes. RBs aren't immune to this criticism either, just look at Tiki Barber early in his career. AP is early in his career too, so hopefully he learns likewise, but there's no excuse for putting the ball on the ground so often.

huh? i can't think of any big calls the refs made. all i can think of was like 8 cowboys going out at some point because of injuries LOL

Both teams were in each other's faces all day and mugging their receivers with no calls. Near the end of the game, the refs kept staring at each other waiting for someone else to make a call on every play. They just flat-out didn't seem to know what they were doing.

As far as jobbing the Cowboys are concerned, the only time the Steelers even got in the red zone was when the refs called a bunch of ticky-tack penalties to keep their drives alive. (Even then, they still had to settle for two goalline FGs and got stuffed on the 1 once LOL joke offense.) The most notorious is the completely phantom offsides call on their lone TD drive that turned a likely-stopped 3rd and 6 into an easily-managed 3rd and 1 for the Steelers. :/ They were playing dirty all game too, especially on special teams, totally uncool. (e.g. Pacman getting blasted helmet-to-helmet and ripped out of the pile after he fell on his muffed punt. How did that NOT draw a penalty?) Maybe that's why so many Cowboys were getting injured. ;(

blagh blagh blagh romo is only good because of the talent around him and campbell is underrated

This is a new version of the same tired argument. If Romo is only so good because he has TO, et al., then why were Johnson and Bollinger so very, very bad in his absence? Witten sat a couple games with his broken ribs too, but there was still TO, Barber, the entire OL still there. If they're the reason Romo is so good, why weren't his backups able to do a respectable job in his stead? Why did he have instant success where Bledsoe was failing? Alternatively, why is Flacco doing so well in Baltimore even though the Ravens have always been weak offensively? You can do all the conjecture you want, but the actual stats have to count for something. They say Romo is an elite QB in almost every measure and he's better than Campbell.

I agree with you that the Redskins need a better OL, that's their biggest problem. The argument doesn't work in reverse, though, you can't fault Romo for taking advantage of what he has. It's been repeatedly proven that not just any QB can do what he does, regardless of the other talents on the team. And don't hate on Randle El. :pirate:
 
Romo is not solely the product of the talent around him - he is a highly productive QB but who has a long track record of making huge mistakes at critical moments.

It was intended more as a defense of Campbell (granted, I think he is close to being an elite QB - he just doesn't have the talent around him to put elite QB numbers.) I didn't neccesarily mean it to say "romo is overrated/product of the system" - again, my only problem with him (and it's a huge one) is the fact that he makes big mistakes at critical times.

I think Romo's numbers would look more like Campbells with talent like ours - he's still put up yardage, but he'd have a hell of a time scoring TDs, as the team is likely to give up a big sack or not allow him the time to make a play (Romo is incredible at avoiding pressure while Campbell is average at best, but I doubt Romo or anyone else could do that consistently to counteract how bad our line is) in order to finish off drives, which is our #1 problem offensively. He'd also have to play more conservatively because points would be at a premium (right now other than the last two minutes of a half his ints don't mean shit because they know they can score points anyway)

I would not go so far to say Romo is MUCH better - it's funny, Campbell is on pace to put up 3400 yards, with the schedule softening up right now, and again, with awful talent. What's to say that with a major upgrade in talent Campbell couldn't put up 24-28 TDs, 3500 yards?

Bollinger and Brad Johnson are not NFL QBs at this point. I think that's a bad comparison. Bledsoe wasn't horrible for Dallas iirc.
 
Most important things I've realized this week.

Texans still have so much potential to be good next year.

I'm convinced Slaton might actually be the best rookie RB.
 
Most important things I've realized this week.

Texans still have so much potential to be good next year.

I'm convinced Slaton might actually be the best rookie RB.

And that's saying a lot about Slaton, because Chris Johnson is also having a Rookie of the year season with over 1000 yards on the top team in the nation. I love Slaton; he makes my Mountaineers proud, lol!

I predicted the Texans to get their first winning season in the beginning of the year, however, Shaub's injury hurt their chances this year to achieve that. Plus, their defense is improving with Mario Williams putting up pro-bowl numbers. That #1 overall pick doesn't look too bad now, does it? Plus Andre Johnson leads the league in receptions and yards, while his WR teammate, Kevin Walter, is one of the league leaders in TD's.

So basially, I am agreeing with you 100%, and I will call it now: Next year, Texans.......playoff contenders.



Packers are done this year......and now another season ending injury to their best OL. How many more injuries do they need to suffer?
 
so disappointed in my Jags this season.

so much potential, plagued by so many injuries and the inability to get in a groove because of it.

:(

ah well. there's always next year.
 
What Eli needs now is for Hixon and Smith to catch the ball once in awhile, like on third down or for a TD. That might help win a game.

Though, his two minute offense is his best, why no just run that for awhile?

Still, with Bradshaw being my favorite player on the Giants, let's see some noise from his this week as the Giants beat Dallas 28-24.
 
I sense the Lions going 0-16 this season
I mean, take a look at their schedule, their best bet would be against the Saints, but then again, the Saints have a great offense.
What do you guys think?
 
they had 2 chances to beat a vikings team who's apparent goal is "lets try and lose to detroit". They came close each time but couldnt do it.

Lions go 0-16 for sure.
 
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