Even if the Pats win the game, it will likely be much closer than that.
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Even if the Pats win the game, it will likely be much closer than that.
New England's offense > Jax defense even if it was Tom Brady alone vs all of Jax.
He'd throw the ball to himself and still score.
They're run game will be ok...But Seau will break Taylor's neck
He'd throw the ball to himself and still score.
They're run game will be ok...But Seau will break Taylor's neck
Over 2 weeks since my last post, what's going on in this thread....
Also, "fight two demons" really needs to quit using the word rape.
You're 20 years old, not 14. Act your age. Wait, this is a pokemon forum. Feel free to rape as much as you want.
Looking forward to Maurice Jones-Drew do his killdozer act.
PS, does jumpman still post here?
Wow, 1 out of 4. You are good at futbols.
Also, "fight two demons" really needs to quit using the word rape.
You're 20 years old, not 14. Act your age. Wait, this is a pokemon forum. Feel free to rape as much as you want.
Looking forward to Maurice Jones-Drew do his killdozer act.
PS, does jumpman still post here?
Jags vs Pats
I said it would happen, and I am not backing down. The blueprint is there on how to be the Pats, get a good pass rush and run the ball. This is the Jags game, physical on the line to push Brady back so he can't step up and ram the ball down the throats of the defense. With a great two headed rushing attack there is no stopping them, a 40 year old linebacking corps won't do anything to stop Jones-Drew, he will truck them all. David Garrard will keep the ball away Samuel and have a great game. And remember, best record doesn't mean anything in the post season, as evidenced by the Mavericks and Chargers last year. Jags win 28-21
Giants vs Cowboys
Cowboys are rested, but the Giants are on a tear, they will not give up. So far this year they are 8-1 on the road, with their only loss to the Cowboys in week 1. The Giants play very well on the road and with a struggling Romo and a beat up TO this may be the chance the Giants needed. Eli has been great lately and Jacobs continues to pound the ball. I expect this to come down to the wire with a slight nod to the Giants and their ability to play well on the road. Giants win 21-17
Seahawks vs Packers
Woodson and Harris are exceptional corners, but they can't defend against 4 wideouts, which will hurt the Packers when the Seahawks go 4 or 5 wide. They have great receivers and if Hasselbeck is on, they will be deadly. Favre has to play against a great pass rush and will have to predict things before the snap. I don't think Grant will get going because the Seahawks will drop a ton of points fast and the Packers will need to play catch up. Seahawks win 31-17
Chargers vs Colts
The Colts are rested, have 4 amazing pass catchers and the best QB in the game in the drivers seat. The Colts will quietly continue to win while the Patriots grab the headlines. I don't see any struggle for the Colts at all, Gates was hurting, and Rivers may have another off game. And with the Colts MVP, Bob Sanders, running that defense they will keep the Charger scoring chances low. Colts win 28-10
I said it would happen, and I am not backing down. The blueprint is there on how to be the Pats, get a good pass rush and run the ball. This is the Jags game, physical on the line to push Brady back so he can't step up and ram the ball down the throats of the defense. With a great two headed rushing attack there is no stopping them, a 40 year old linebacking corps won't do anything to stop Jones-Drew, he will truck them all. David Garrard will keep the ball away Samuel and have a great game. And remember, best record doesn't mean anything in the post season, as evidenced by the Mavericks and Chargers last year. Jags win 28-21
Giants vs Cowboys
Cowboys are rested, but the Giants are on a tear, they will not give up. So far this year they are 8-1 on the road, with their only loss to the Cowboys in week 1. The Giants play very well on the road and with a struggling Romo and a beat up TO this may be the chance the Giants needed. Eli has been great lately and Jacobs continues to pound the ball. I expect this to come down to the wire with a slight nod to the Giants and their ability to play well on the road. Giants win 21-17
Seahawks vs Packers
Woodson and Harris are exceptional corners, but they can't defend against 4 wideouts, which will hurt the Packers when the Seahawks go 4 or 5 wide. They have great receivers and if Hasselbeck is on, they will be deadly. Favre has to play against a great pass rush and will have to predict things before the snap. I don't think Grant will get going because the Seahawks will drop a ton of points fast and the Packers will need to play catch up. Seahawks win 31-17
Chargers vs Colts
The Colts are rested, have 4 amazing pass catchers and the best QB in the game in the drivers seat. The Colts will quietly continue to win while the Patriots grab the headlines. I don't see any struggle for the Colts at all, Gates was hurting, and Rivers may have another off game. And with the Colts MVP, Bob Sanders, running that defense they will keep the Charger scoring chances low. Colts win 28-10
zerowing, the Mavericks having a 67 win record happened in a season of relative mediocrity in the NBA, whereas this year was one of the NFL's best years in recent memory! Their own division was weak, but it is not as if they succeeded in the absence of any other good teams! I am as even headed as anyone, and three upsets could happen, but to expect three upsets is really improbable, and even two is highly unlikely (but that is okay since I know you are only picking the Giants as a Giants fanboy, and that you know the Cowboys will win like 50-2)
(what the flip! you read me mind!, NAH THIS IS FINE TO ME AS WELL)
You know i just don't get WHY people pick the jaguars, do i have to go even MORE in depth, i do articles on the pats for my niehborhood newspaper, oddly i get to do a pats article this week, not some lame loss dolphins one during the reg. season...anyway someone else pick the jags the more people over there the more with a sad face sunday morning. I just want some good ex. other then this crap "blueprint" how in the heck is it a blue print if it has FAILED, housebuilders dont make failed blueprints do they? no.
Well i guess this just hypes up the chips for this thread a bit.
I'm a Packers fan, so I have to pick them. Giants don't have much of a shot, but I think they'll get lucky and manage to get a TD sometime in the first half, then struggle to get back into FG range.
But yeah, I have no explanation on the Jags beating the Pats, just some sort of hopeful faith that they will.
But yeah, I have no explanation on the Jags beating the Pats, just some sort of hopeful faith that they will.
Well I think that it is possible that the JaG(SEE BEACHBOY IT IS A G NOT A Q FOR CHRIST'S SAKE IT'S LIKE YOU'RE FUCKING 8)uars can win, I don't believe they actually will. Don't get me wrong, I really hope they win. If they can control the ball and run it down the Patriots throat successfully, they have a chance. However, they also need to be able to stop or at least slow down the Patriots offense. They also cannot afford to fall apart as they did in the Steelers game (which was the only good point I saw in BeachBoy's post, among misspellings and terrible grammar).
As for the other games, I think that the Cowboys, Packers, and Colts will win. The Giants might be able to pull an upset, but I just don’t see it happening. Same goes for the Packers game, but I think the Seahawks have a slightly better chance of getting an upset than the Giants. I think that the regular season game played between the Colts and the Chargers was a huge fluke and will not likely happen again, but I could see San Diego winning if they can somehow stop the Colts offense and get LT going right away (unlike against Tennessee).
As for the other games, I think that the Cowboys, Packers, and Colts will win. The Giants might be able to pull an upset, but I just don’t see it happening. Same goes for the Packers game, but I think the Seahawks have a slightly better chance of getting an upset than the Giants. I think that the regular season game played between the Colts and the Chargers was a huge fluke and will not likely happen again, but I could see San Diego winning if they can somehow stop the Colts offense and get LT going right away (unlike against Tennessee).
Point to this statement? You're going to bring up the weather, well guess what when the weather was bad (vs the Jets Week 15) Tom Brady couldn't throw the ball and didn't even throw a TD. This plays right into the Jags hands with their running game and short passing routes compared to the bomb it out Pats.
The Steelers are the third best at stopping the run, so you can expect the running game to struggle, but the Jags still averaged 4.7 yards per carry which is a great number. Jones-Drew is a warrior and will not give up, he trucked Shawn Merrimen, one of the biggest and best Linebackers in the league and you expect the Patriots 40 year olds to keep up with him? No chance. The Jags are the number 2 rushing attack in the league, they have 2 great running backs and a QB who doesn't turn the ball over, great things for a rushing attack. And its proven a great rushing attack WILL slow the Patriots offense down.
I never said he had a great game, and I consider a great game for him 200 yards, 1 TD, no INTs which he has done all year and can easily drop on the Patriots. The Jags are not a passing team, so Garrard doesn't need to throw for 300 yards and 3 TDs. And the Steelers secondary worrisome? Its ranked 3rd in the league, I don't get how that is worrisome. Care to explain?
One word, weather. It shut down Tom Brady vs the Jets and the conditions are expected to be similar, can't we expect the same from the Patriots passing attack?
They got 40 yards on 26 attempts, for a 1.7 yard per carry average. And don't give me Davenport is not a good RB, he averaged 4.7 yards per carry during the regular season. Josh Scobee was 92% for the year, even the best miss a few every so often (Vinateri vs Chargers anyone?) And a fast 40 does not translate to NFL talent, rarely does anyone ever get to run freely for 40 yards, they get jammed at the line and can't line up like in the combine.
Remember the Colts of old? The ones who just dropped 30 points a game in an effort to win? But got no where in the playoffs. Best offense in the game yet still lost in the playoffs. I liken these Patriots to those Colts, all finesse and scoring, only when the Colts played physical and on defense did they finally win a championship.
Yes and I just reminded you the Steelers are better at stopping the run and still the Jags had a good rushing game.
More like the other teams lost it, every team had the game in hand, but they all made a critical error that put the game back into the Pats hands. Each game was set up for a Pats loss, but the opposing teams made errors that the Pats were able to use.
Manning IS THE BEST. Brady had a good year yeah, but he never threw for over 30 TDs in a season until now. And you want to bring up MVPs and records? Manning has 2 MVPs and plently of records of his own. 6 INT games happen, EVERY player has a bad day. Moss made Brady what he was this year. Culpepper had a 39 TD season with Moss, guess what hes doing now, backing up rookies on the Raiders. Peyton Manning made his WRs, Marvin Harrison was a number 1 on the Colts before Manning showed up and never got over 900 yards or 9 TDs, once Manning showed up he started getting 1200+ and 11 TDs.
Yeah because they are all on the bandwagon and between you and Fight Two Demons, I don't know if any Pats fans can spell, form proper sentences, or quit talking out of their ass about "their" team.
zerowing hi5
Dude..your argument was good up until the point where you act like Brady sucks. Seriously, Manning making Harrison a stat monster, but before last year, how many SBs did they win? Brady had Troy Brown as like his #2 throughout his SBs ffs. See, it's not even that you said Brady suck, it's that that complete paragraph was utter bullshit. Complete 100% utter bullshit. You start with Manning is the best. Then you defend him. Then you say Randy Moss makes his QB and Culpepper is now rotting away. Then you say Manning makes his WR better statwise. You pretty much string together irrelevent things.
Either stick with Manning is the best QB, then back him up, but don't start going into random fucking circles cause before you know it, you're going to sound like GBPackersfan zerowing. =/
Either stick with Manning is the best QB, then back him up, but don't start going into random fucking circles cause before you know it, you're going to sound like GBPackersfan zerowing. =/
I was really impressed with Eli's performance over the two weeks. Giants have momentum and now it's Eli who has the playoff win against a Romo without TO. Giants win close.
Weather permitting, Jags win close.
Weather permitting, Jags win close.
My predictions:
Giants over the Cowboys- I feel like the stereotypical, hot underdog team beating the cold unprepared "top" team, situation is very relevant here.
Green Bay over the Seahawks- Now the Packers are the model of inconsistency...but I just don't like the Hawks running game, and I don't think that Green Bay secondary is going to let Hasselback have his way with it.
Colts over Chargers- Talent v. Talent wise, these teams are pretty similar, with an arguable edge for the Chargers. Experience wise? No Contest.
Patriots over Jags- If a team was built to beat the Pats, this would be it. No mistakes on offense for the Pats to capitalize on and effective game control with that great running game are the best ways to take on that damn team. Still...the Pats are just too damn good.
Giants over the Cowboys- I feel like the stereotypical, hot underdog team beating the cold unprepared "top" team, situation is very relevant here.
Green Bay over the Seahawks- Now the Packers are the model of inconsistency...but I just don't like the Hawks running game, and I don't think that Green Bay secondary is going to let Hasselback have his way with it.
Colts over Chargers- Talent v. Talent wise, these teams are pretty similar, with an arguable edge for the Chargers. Experience wise? No Contest.
Patriots over Jags- If a team was built to beat the Pats, this would be it. No mistakes on offense for the Pats to capitalize on and effective game control with that great running game are the best ways to take on that damn team. Still...the Pats are just too damn good.
My family has been fans ever since the pats franchise started, they went through the 91-93 seasons where we compiled the worst record, we are not bandwagon fans. I can't spell because I am sleepy and wanted to make a fast point. And you just sound like the patriots never did anything this year, like jags will win 45-0 or something. So i got a little defensive with bad stat looking x_X
The difference between these two teams is that in the jaguars are new to the playoff feel, the poised patriots will play for 4 quarters and everyone complained on about bill playing the pats in the 4th quarter in the reg. season. Bill has had 2 lengthy weeks to prepare. The patriots win a close one.
31-28
For the sake of fun, some more stats....
Team Matchup
JACNE
Points Per Game 25.7 36.8
Total yards per game - Passing 208 295.7
Total yards per game - Rushing 149.4 115.6
Points allowed per game 19 17.1
Total yards allowed per game - Passing 213.5 190.1
Total yards allowed per game -Rushing 100.3 98.2
Giveaways 21 15
Takeaways 30 31
Also i would like to say...remember the pats vs. steelers game, Pats W 34-13. Everyone thought the steelers had it to beat them, and the results are there.
Well I wasn't trying to get you/others to rip me apart just trying to defend some points, but rightly so, i made mistakes.....with both our great points we'll just have to wait till the 12th.
theamericandream38 said:
wow, thanks for being nice. OK yea I was tired with no sleep, I UNDERSTAND, bad post......gee.......look you guys, I came here to have fun, ok, I admit I was stupid enough to look at the wrong stat sheet, though come on, is it really necessary to bash me completely. Sorry ok....didn't know this was perfect spelling every single time smogon....ok deleted that post as everyone hated it, mine as well delete it....I wasn't trying to make people rage on me.
Lets discuss some of the games and how the games played will effect the next games.
The New York Giants. They finally came to play. After watching that first quarter i was sitting there with a dreaded feeling in the pit of my stomach fearing that i would see the giants lose their 3rd straight playoff game. But Eli came out and was firing. He didn't do to much. But he consistently completed the 8-12 yard pass making first downs easy to string together. Jacobs didn't run with authority like i thought he might. But he did his job of banging up the defense and throwing Tampa off for when bradshaw came in.
New York Giants at Dallas Cowboys
The 3rd match up between these teams with season. Each time they face each other the games are always great and the teams play with plenty of emotion. And with Romo in search of his first playoff win and Eli fresh off his first playoff win you know this is going to be a great game. Now the Giants are in position for the upset. Dallas is rested, stumbling, and injured. Also they have beaten the Giants twice this season so you can expect the giants to come out strong. So i like the Giants chances. I'm a giants fan so of course I'm going to pick them. But TO has a high ankle sprain. He will play but he will only be a distraction. Terry Glenn is cold and if the Giants can contain Witten who has been a killer to the giants. They can wrap up with game. But one thing they can't do just yet is put the game in Eli's hand and say win it. The Giants shouldn't be foolish and get away from what got them into the playoffs in the first place. Yeah he is playing great and we knew he could play at that level but if the giants want to beat Dallas they will have to try and establish the run.
Giants win 30-27
The seahawks vs the redskins. The seahawks came into that game fairly unnoticed. They played decent against the redskins. Yeah i can see the score but if you watched the game you know the redskins had the lead late in the game. After the seahawks took the lead it didn't take long to put it away. But consistency was lacking as hasselbeck had a 68.4 QB ratiting. Against a Redskins secondary that has been struggling. The seahawks are without a doubt one of the best home teams. But away ....
The Seattle Seahawks at The Greenbay Packers
An interesting game. But i think the field plays a huge part in this game. The Seahawks are 3-5 on the road and 1-6 on the road in the playoffs. Favre didn't have this season to get knocked out first round. The seahawks will start to win early but after they fail to establish a running game against the stout greenbay defense. Greenbay will start to sit on routes and pick off matt hasselbeck. Brett favre is great after the defense comes up big. Greenbays defense will win this game not their offense.
Greenbay wins 20-14
I'll do the AFC another time
The New York Giants. They finally came to play. After watching that first quarter i was sitting there with a dreaded feeling in the pit of my stomach fearing that i would see the giants lose their 3rd straight playoff game. But Eli came out and was firing. He didn't do to much. But he consistently completed the 8-12 yard pass making first downs easy to string together. Jacobs didn't run with authority like i thought he might. But he did his job of banging up the defense and throwing Tampa off for when bradshaw came in.
New York Giants at Dallas Cowboys
The 3rd match up between these teams with season. Each time they face each other the games are always great and the teams play with plenty of emotion. And with Romo in search of his first playoff win and Eli fresh off his first playoff win you know this is going to be a great game. Now the Giants are in position for the upset. Dallas is rested, stumbling, and injured. Also they have beaten the Giants twice this season so you can expect the giants to come out strong. So i like the Giants chances. I'm a giants fan so of course I'm going to pick them. But TO has a high ankle sprain. He will play but he will only be a distraction. Terry Glenn is cold and if the Giants can contain Witten who has been a killer to the giants. They can wrap up with game. But one thing they can't do just yet is put the game in Eli's hand and say win it. The Giants shouldn't be foolish and get away from what got them into the playoffs in the first place. Yeah he is playing great and we knew he could play at that level but if the giants want to beat Dallas they will have to try and establish the run.
Giants win 30-27
The seahawks vs the redskins. The seahawks came into that game fairly unnoticed. They played decent against the redskins. Yeah i can see the score but if you watched the game you know the redskins had the lead late in the game. After the seahawks took the lead it didn't take long to put it away. But consistency was lacking as hasselbeck had a 68.4 QB ratiting. Against a Redskins secondary that has been struggling. The seahawks are without a doubt one of the best home teams. But away ....
The Seattle Seahawks at The Greenbay Packers
An interesting game. But i think the field plays a huge part in this game. The Seahawks are 3-5 on the road and 1-6 on the road in the playoffs. Favre didn't have this season to get knocked out first round. The seahawks will start to win early but after they fail to establish a running game against the stout greenbay defense. Greenbay will start to sit on routes and pick off matt hasselbeck. Brett favre is great after the defense comes up big. Greenbays defense will win this game not their offense.
Greenbay wins 20-14
I'll do the AFC another time
No disrespect to Brady, who's typically neck-and-neck with Manning in the "greatest QB" discussion (Manning usually getting the nod), but I do find it amusing how the Brady-lovers seem to think this season "proves" that Brady is better than Manning when both have an elite receiving corps. How does this ONE season prove that? Who's to say Brady didn't do better this season only because HE had the superior receivers this year? (Moss/Welker are amazing and Harrison was out 3/4 of the regular season.) Manning's resumé is a little bit longer still.
And no, I don't think the Giants are going to win. I'm not buying into "momentum" a month old and the Cowboys looked worse than they really are the last couple weeks of the regular season. Week 16 they suffered a lot of important injuries (Newman, TO, Gurode) and Week 17 was a meaningless game for them. All those minor injuries have healed and Dallas has already shown us twice this year they completely outmatch the Giants, I think they'll do it again.
Tell that to the Redskins.
When you're only throwing 25 a game on one of the best rushing teams in the league, 200 yards, 1 TD is a good statline. When you're the QB of the NFL's only true spread offense and running more than half your plays from shotgun formation, 200 yards, 1 TD is pretty mediocre.
And no, I don't think the Giants are going to win. I'm not buying into "momentum" a month old and the Cowboys looked worse than they really are the last couple weeks of the regular season. Week 16 they suffered a lot of important injuries (Newman, TO, Gurode) and Week 17 was a meaningless game for them. All those minor injuries have healed and Dallas has already shown us twice this year they completely outmatch the Giants, I think they'll do it again.
Tell that to the Redskins.
BeachBoy said:
When you're only throwing 25 a game on one of the best rushing teams in the league, 200 yards, 1 TD is a good statline. When you're the QB of the NFL's only true spread offense and running more than half your plays from shotgun formation, 200 yards, 1 TD is pretty mediocre.
Please look at the Redskins' schedule and compare it to the Seahawks' schedule.
That is all.
that jags-pats game is going to be very very interesting. that two headed RB team of jones-drew and taylor will be hard to stop. however the pats do have the number 10 ranked run def in the league. if the jags get down early forget about running, you have to pass to stay in it. so we'll see how close the jags can keep it, so they can continue to use their run game.
i see a lot of people predicting jags over pats. its very ballsy, but i wouldnt count the pats out yet. you forget they have that evil genius belichek. he analyzes tape like none other. easily the best coach in the league, and i guarantee he proves it on saturday night. he'll have an answer for that jag run game, and he'll force garrard to beat him in the air. it should end up being a shootout that the pats easily win. i'll say 31-24 pats
as for the rest of the games:
24-21 Colts
35-24 Cowboys
24-13 Packers
i see a lot of people predicting jags over pats. its very ballsy, but i wouldnt count the pats out yet. you forget they have that evil genius belichek. he analyzes tape like none other. easily the best coach in the league, and i guarantee he proves it on saturday night. he'll have an answer for that jag run game, and he'll force garrard to beat him in the air. it should end up being a shootout that the pats easily win. i'll say 31-24 pats
as for the rest of the games:
24-21 Colts
35-24 Cowboys
24-13 Packers
That commercial makes me crack up every time. I collapse in a fit of laughter at the mere thought of Eli Manning being "unstoppable." Maybe if it was Peyton Manning or Tom Brady....but Eli? C'mon!
As a Bills fan, I will shamelessly root for whichever team is playing the Patriots, even if that team is the Dallas Cowboys. After the Ravens went and got beaten by the Phish, the Pats losing is all I have left to look forward to...
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