I could've gone today if I had $70.
Needless to say, I don't have $70.
Needless to say, I don't have $70.
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The Everything NHL Thread
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so now all you thrashers fans need a new team to root for. thankfully I came across this handy guide to picking a new team
FUN FACT: The Canucks were tied for last place in the NHL with the Oilers for 5-on-3 goals in the regular season, both teams having one each. They were also only one of eight teams with 3 or less 5-on-3 goals in the regular season. In one minute and 55 seconds, they managed to triple their regular season output of 5-on-3 goals.
LMAO Sharks
LMAO Sharks
...and yet win at the end
FUN FACT: The defending champion Chicago Blackhawks must be one of the only teams in league history to go from a title to one and done in the playoffs.
"LMAO HAWKS"
Ahem, anyway that game really stung. We outplayed them throughout general play and outshot them by heaps but both their PK and their PP were phenomenal. I think we lose in 5 but I have faith (assuming Jumbo isn't injured, fuck Torres is a dirty bastard - I still remember the hit on Michalek) that our team has the capability to pull off a comeback.
"LMAO HAWKS"
Ahem, anyway that game really stung. We outplayed them throughout general play and outshot them by heaps but both their PK and their PP were phenomenal. I think we lose in 5 but I have faith (assuming Jumbo isn't injured, fuck Torres is a dirty bastard - I still remember the hit on Michalek) that our team has the capability to pull off a comeback.
Guys I can't tell if Stallion is a fairweather NHL fan can anyone help me figure out if the answer is in this post
Forget NHL fan, I bet he just discovered hockey.
well he is a sharks fan, so he's certainly not just bandwagoning a successful team
Just like how the sharks were up in game 1 and 2 and then choked.
Of course it's happened, probably much more in this sport then any of the other three major American sports. Still doesn't mean that it's exactly a yearly occurrence though, and it is kind of surprising for a team that had been consistently finishing amongst the top few seeds for the last couple of years before this one. But to answer your question Synre, yes I am a legit fan but no I haven't followed the game for long - supported the Sharks for the past 6-7 years and more avidly so for the last 3-4. My post was more just being a tad annoyed at popemobiles seemingly constant barrage of anti-Sharks posts in this thread (it didn't help that it was right after we lost that i read it) when his own meh team struggled to make the playoffs and didn't make it out of the first round after a relatively dominant postseason last year (or maybe I'm seeing it through Teal coloured glasses, remembering us getting swept and all whilst watching Niemi turn into god). Synre, just because I am not a hockey vet like a few of the other posters in this thread doesn't mean I don't enjoy the game and aren't a legitimate supporter of the Sharks (as pope said, it's kinda hard to bandwagon for a team with a history of choking and who haven't even made it past the WCF in their history).
$70 is expensive when you don't have a job. And when hockey isn't your favorite sport.
Of the post-lockout Stanley Cup finalists only three franchises have ever made it out of the first round in the next year, Stallion. Detroit and Pittsburgh(twice) and then Philadelphia this year. Cup finalists have been as likely to fail to make it past the first round as to get past it, including both 2005-6 finalists, who didn't even make the playoffs the next year(and somewhat strangely have only made the playoffs once combined since...). Playing into June usually has a lot of negative carryover wear and tear on teams and winning probably takes some of the drive away for most players. Teams haven't been able to overwhelm their opponents so badly it doesn't matter in the cap era, and it has showed with the turnover in round 2. It'll be interesting to see what happens to the winner of the Western Conference series, since they've been perennial Round 2 combatants...
I posted mostly because you make these kind of ridiculous statements constantly and while laughing at them on IRC is kind of funny I've kinda hit a limit... I'm all for more people watching hockey but you might wanna make sure you know what you're talking about before you post.
I posted mostly because you make these kind of ridiculous statements constantly and while laughing at them on IRC is kind of funny I've kinda hit a limit... I'm all for more people watching hockey but you might wanna make sure you know what you're talking about before you post.
overrated dman with a huge cap hit, you should be thanking the lord he retired
I'm not sure if overrated is fair when you consider his age; he was fantastic for the Devils and most of his first two years in Detroit but not everyone ages like Lidstrom... I wouldn't be too surprised if the Detroit brass encourages this retirement since I'd agree he's definitely not worth his cap hit anymore. Good player and a smart guy though, would be kinda sad to see him go.
That said, Kronwall is playing #1 minutes for the Wings more often than not nowdays and it'd be nice not to lose both Lidstrom and Rafalski as we transition. Ericsson was kinda competent this year but it's also a contract year for him so probably he won't do that again for another couple of years, it'll be up to people like Kindl and Smith to carry this blueline into the future(both of whom I think will be solid NHLers, at least) should Detroit not be able to pull some sort of trade off this offseason because the free agent crop is going to be awful.
If Lidstrom were to retire here and leave Detroit without both him and Rafalski this could be an awfully bad year for Detroit even with the extra 12.2m to spend. The real killer for Detroit is another year of Hudler at 2.875... you could take off that 2 and it still might be a bad deal. Really interesting cap situation over the next two years with Lidstrom and Rafalski coming off the books though, take off Rafalski(6.0), Modano(1.75), Draper (1.583) and Osgood (1.416) this year and probably Lidstrom (6.2), Hudler (2.875), Bertuzzi (1.937), and Holmstrom(1.875) and it's kind of strange to think of what this team could look like in 2013-14... that's 23.636m off the books and probably cap increases will bring that up to at least 25m in space with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Filppula, Cleary, Kronwall, and Stuart still signed... Howard, Helm, Abdelkader, Miller, Eaves will probably need minor raises to stay on the roster but it's kind of interesting. The first four forwards are all definite Top 6 guys and the other 5 if resigned only leaves them really needing 2 top 6 forwards, 2 top 4 D, and a couple energy skaters and a filler defenseman if they can turn Kronwall/Stuart/some combination of young guys and free agent signings into a respectable blueline.
That said, Kronwall is playing #1 minutes for the Wings more often than not nowdays and it'd be nice not to lose both Lidstrom and Rafalski as we transition. Ericsson was kinda competent this year but it's also a contract year for him so probably he won't do that again for another couple of years, it'll be up to people like Kindl and Smith to carry this blueline into the future(both of whom I think will be solid NHLers, at least) should Detroit not be able to pull some sort of trade off this offseason because the free agent crop is going to be awful.
If Lidstrom were to retire here and leave Detroit without both him and Rafalski this could be an awfully bad year for Detroit even with the extra 12.2m to spend. The real killer for Detroit is another year of Hudler at 2.875... you could take off that 2 and it still might be a bad deal. Really interesting cap situation over the next two years with Lidstrom and Rafalski coming off the books though, take off Rafalski(6.0), Modano(1.75), Draper (1.583) and Osgood (1.416) this year and probably Lidstrom (6.2), Hudler (2.875), Bertuzzi (1.937), and Holmstrom(1.875) and it's kind of strange to think of what this team could look like in 2013-14... that's 23.636m off the books and probably cap increases will bring that up to at least 25m in space with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Filppula, Cleary, Kronwall, and Stuart still signed... Howard, Helm, Abdelkader, Miller, Eaves will probably need minor raises to stay on the roster but it's kind of interesting. The first four forwards are all definite Top 6 guys and the other 5 if resigned only leaves them really needing 2 top 6 forwards, 2 top 4 D, and a couple energy skaters and a filler defenseman if they can turn Kronwall/Stuart/some combination of young guys and free agent signings into a respectable blueline.
I guess overrated is the wrong word, more like past his prime
as much as i'll miss Raf, this might actually be a blessing in disguise. If the Cap goes up to 62.2, the Wings have 20+ million in cap space. They WILL be huge spenders in free agency. I came up with this gem on capgeek that will make Canucks fans cry alot.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Johan Franzen ($3.954m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m)
Jiri Hudler ($2.875m) / Eric Belanger ($1.000m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Drew Miller ($0.850m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.000m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m)
DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.000m)
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Christian Ehrhoff ($3.750m)
Marc-Andre Bergeron ($1.200m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Ty Conklin ($1.450m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $62,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,808,711; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,391,289
Heck, i might've been Lenient with the prices and could have paid more.
Please tell me you're trolling.
Signing Ehrhoff for 3.75 million? LOL. Highlight of my day today. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Chances are, Canucks let him go for some stupid team signing him for an exorbitant 5+ mil, someone who's desperate for a "top" d man (Ehrhoff definitely does not quality). If possible, the Canucks will definitely snatch him up for 4 mil definitely, but if it gets way too expensive, we're letting him go. Ehrhoff is great offensively, but through this year, he's been making defensive gaffes that Edler has been covering.
And Bieksa will most likely stay in Vancouver. As fickle as Vancouver fans are, he's a favorite in Vancouver at the moment (his playoff heroics help) and the Canucks brass will definitely do their best to get him signed.
We have 13 million in cap space next year. Pretty sure Bieksa will sign for around a 4-4.5 million cap hit depending on the length of his contract, and then sign Higgins and sign one or two depth players to replace the ones that we don't want to resign. We can afford to let Ehrhoff go, with the advent of Chris Tanev, and Lee Sweat coming up. Yann Sauve has been also playing decently as of late in the minors, so hopefully he'll be a good bottom pairing in the future.
It's not about Canucks fan crying J-man, more like most of us are asking if you're trolling or not. You keep telling yourself you're gonna sign Ehrhoff for 3.75 mil LOL
no way are Bieksa or Ehrhoff signing for under 5 mil, you'd have to be crazy to think otherwise.