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No the Suns have always been that way, they kind of need to be blown up in the off-season too

The Cavaliers are a #2 scorer away from at least one title tbh. Wizards need to really remake their team because they're in a real "whole <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< sum total of their parts" situation and they need do do some subtractive additon
 
These last two hornets games have been ridiculous ><

If the Mavs don't pull out a win for this series, I will no longer be proud to admit I am a Mavericks fan. :[
 
Why would you stop being proud to be a Mavericks fan? The Nowitzki era has been stellar. I could have never imagined us having a good team after those two ridiculously bad years in '94 and '95, but here we are where losing a playoff series in the first round is a major disappointment :)

Man all my Spurs fan friends are going to make fun of me; one of the few drawbacks of living in Austin instead of Dallas while attending UT :x
 
I watched the game earlier and I could just say that the Spurs are just a better team than the Suns. The Suns slowed down their game by acquiring a big man in Shaq just so they could beat the Spurs.

But I think people tend to forget that San Antonio, with Parker and Ginobili, can run with the best of them and still play tenacious defense. I'm starting to think the Suns can't beat the Spurs.
 
I managed to watch the second half of the Spurs-Suns game. I have to say that the Suns really miss Grant Hill, who is battling a groin injury. They had to play Diaw instead in the second half, and being his inconsistent self just couldn't make a damn bucket. I hope Hill can play the next game, they really need him.
 
Suns just should have kept Marion and Kurt Thomas. They almost had them last year with that team, this year, Amare got better, and Duncan got older. Would have seemed better off probably!! Instead, Duncan gets to take a nap in between possessions as Shaq waddles up the court as opposed to being tired out by run run run and gun. Didn't Spurs totally blow out Suns in fast break points yesterday?
 
Not really - Marion didn't want to stay, and they didn't want to lose him for nothing.

They made the wrong trade however; they should have dangled him to GS for Biedrins and Harrington (dunno if GS would have taken that though) or maybe to the Clips for Kaman.

Honestly though the real problem is that Bell has been terrible
 
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Sums up how I felt about Game 2...

If only we could have ditched Diaw or something for Marion...Barbosa isn't performing well either in the playoffs for some reason. And missing Grant Hill as well.
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Barbosa just can't get his game going against the Spurs defense and he is an incredibly streaky player so I doubt he really can pile up the points against a defense like the one the Spurs have at this point in his career.

I think the Suns should've just opted to pay the luxury tax all along. They had a really close shot to the title last season and I really think the suspensions handed out to Diaw and Amare cost them last year.

Also some interesting bit on the Suns and luxury tax...

If they've decided to go Mark Cuban mode and just dole out money on players year after year...

1. The Suns would've kept their No. 7 pick in 2004 instead of trading it to Chicago. And they would've drafted either Andre Iguodala or Luol Deng.
2. They would've used their 21st pick in 2006 on Rajon Rondo rather than selling it for cash and a 2007 late first rounder.
3. Kurt Thomas would not have been traded.
4. No need for the Marcus Banks signing since they would have Rondo in his rookie contract therefore no Shaq trade. They wouldn't even need Shaq as they have Kurt Thomas.

Not including the Joe Johnson deal as the Suns actually wanted him back but Joe bolted for the Hawks as they offered more.

Imagine the Suns lineup if they did decide to pay the luxury tax all along. Nash, Barbosa, Iguodala, Hill, Bell, Rondo, Stoudemire, Marion, Diaw, Thomas.

wishful thinking...
 
That's easy, the team wouldn't be as good. If that was the line up, Iguodala would never developed, Diaw wouldn't get any playing time either, and with Nash and Barbosa mainly at the guard at all time, Rondo wouldn't get as much PT either. Hill probably wouldn't sign either with that many swings and guards in his position on the team.

Also it would be ironic you call it Cuban mode, when the only reason why Suns got Nash was because Cuban didn't want to pay for Nash that long..
 
Did anyone see Inside the NBA yesterday? It's been a while since I laughed so hard lol. That was just awesome. For those that didn't see it, you can watch a video here. Ahahaha
 
That's easy, the team wouldn't be as good.
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Eh

Not really.

Iggy wouldn't become a borderline all-star, but he would have been another good perimeter defender; same with Rondo.

I could see the Suns lineup being like this under that scenario

C: Stoudemire/Thomas
PF: Marion/Diaw
SF: Bell/Jones
SG: Iggy/Barbosa
PG: Nash/Rondo

the Suns would be deep as shit and their perimeter D would be fucking sick, especially when Rondo is in. They were already athletic and great defenders out of college, and that's all the Suns need, especially since it's not Duncan that's beating them so much that Parker and Manu are abusing Bell and Barbosa on both ends of the court, and Rondo and Iguodala would match up a lot better.
 
It's worth noting, though, the a contributing factor to the two Spurs guards slicing up Phoenix is because of all the attention Duncan draws. It's just plain difficult to guard against 2-3 very good scorers. Also, Duncan typically has been carrying them through the tough stretches, whereas Parker and Manu have been the ones to put the nails in the coffin, so to speak (lots of nails, lol).

Phoenix has been afraid of Duncan for awhile now, with good reason. There latest attempt to find an answer shows the desperation. With the line up listed, while it would be awesome, it would still leave you with the Duncan problem. Noone in that line-up can really guard him effectively. Thomas ended up not being enough last year...and Amare definitely can't guard him.

Still...that lineup would be awesome to see. It'd basically be like 4 guys playing above the rim and Nash throwing the ball at the backboard repeatedly. All records for alley-oops would be crushed.
 
Imo, the Lakers are gonna be damn near impossible for the Nuggets (or any team ) to stop. They can play through Pau Gasol (as they have done with increasing frequency since the trade) and give Sasha and their shooters good looks, play 5 out and create opportunites for LO to slash to the basket, or go "Kobe" mode, like they did last night. Boston or San Antonio are the best bet to stop them, as they match up well. However, San Antonio were decimated by them pre playoffs. It's a good time to be a Lakers fan :)
 
Mizuno said:
Did anyone see Inside the NBA yesterday? It's been a while since I laughed so hard lol. That was just awesome. For those that didn't see it, you can watch a video here. Ahahaha
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Dude.. I'm still fucking laughing. Tears! That's hilariousssss.

But back on topic, Wizards steam rolled over the Cavs. But imo, they didn't really go all out tonight.

GG Wiz.
 
MS said:
Imo, the Lakers are gonna be damn near impossible for the Nuggets (or any team ) to stop. They can play through Pau Gasol (as they have done with increasing frequency since the trade) and give Sasha and their shooters good looks, play 5 out and create opportunites for LO to slash to the basket, or go "Kobe" mode, like they did last night. Boston or San Antonio are the best bet to stop them, as they match up well. However, San Antonio were decimated by them pre playoffs. It's a good time to be a Lakers fan :)
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It's awesome to be a laker fan...especially with all the playoff heartaches since the 3peat teams. So Ronny and Sasha will both be free agents after the season, hopefully reach a deal with the front office.
 
honestly the wiz are better without arenas right now. he's not at 100% and he keeps trying to take over games when he obviously can't at this point.
 
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