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I don't think Ferroseed performs the role Tangela has equally as well. The lack of fighting weakness is actually pretty good for it, allowing it to come in on Stoutland (more reliably) Primeape Gurdurr (it gets knocked but u win the 1v1 easily) Hitmonchan ect. It's just about as good of a normal resist tbh, you don't actually resist but the access to reliable recovery in Synthesis and a great ability in Regenerator means you pivot in just about as well. Yeah Tangela has poor Spdef but it's not like anybody is arguing that Tangela could compete in that department with Ferroseed. I just don't really see why they're being compared so hard in your original post, as well as saying Tangela is somehow outclassed by Ferroseed. Sure yeah they're bulky grass types, but the comparison pretty much ends there. Ferroseed has the utility in spikes rocks, can afford to go either spdef or physdef depending on what you want to beat/what the team needs from it, iron barbs is cool to wear down mons, ect. Tangela has the better phys def allowing it to be a better physical meta check, having access to Regenerator allows it to pivot easier, actually has a pretty good offensive presence, fits on balance better imo, ect. All in all on paper maybe they look fairly similar, but in practice they perform different roles and in turn Tangela isn't 'outclassed' by Ferroseed. Don't agree with this nom to drop it.Tangela is more of a catch-all defensive pivot that performs only one role that Ferroseed can do equally as well.