Is Droughtales + Chlorophyll banned already? I don't see why you would run Sunny Day on Whimsicott when Ninetales exist...
No its not, but it's always a fair idea to run Sunny Day even with Ninetales. It's just in case you lose your Ninetales and they still have their weather summoner - they'll likely be a lot less cautious with their Tyranitar, and with Sunny Day you can put the weather back in your favour even after Ninetales is gone. It's a good strategy and lots of people do it when running Drought/Drizzle teams.Is Droughtales + Chlorophyll banned already? I don't see why you would run Sunny Day on Whimsicott when Ninetales exist...
Switcheroo is illegal with Encore, I believe. And Whimsicott should always have Encore.potential move combo would be a choice item + switcheroo? kinda like 3rd gen 'kazam. seems like it'd be good against other subseeders or leads
but you wouldn't need encore if you switcheroo'd a choice item, right?Switcheroo is illegal with Encore, I believe. And Whimsicott should always have Encore.
The whole point of Whimiscott is to abuse priority and force switches. Encore helps a lot in the regard, but if you want to switcheroo choiced items you're better off choosing another pokemon? It needs the priority sub, taunt and leechseed or uturn for damage. Switcheroo won't help itbut you wouldn't need encore if you switcheroo'd a choice item, right?
Priority Switcheroo means it can abuse Iron Ball, Choice Band, Specs, and Scarf, whereas most Trickers are pretty much limited only to a Scarf. Nothing beats slapping a Band on Latios.The whole point of Whimiscott is to abuse priority and force switches. Encore helps a lot in the regard, but if you want to switcheroo choiced items you're better off choosing another pokemon? It needs the priority sub, taunt and leechseed or uturn for damage. Switcheroo won't help it
Who says? If you switcharoo, you get their item. Put a choice-item on their favorite set-up poke. Now you have it's life-orb/leftovers to put on any poke run choice on. What are you really going to do once your choice-scarf garchomp has leftovers; or, if you're really good, black sludge? At which point, you can do it again, and pretty much wreak havok on their item-base, giving their walls life-orbs and their sweepers leftovers. Sure, you'll probably get kind of predictable after the first few times; you wont ever be able to completely mess up a whole team. But only do it once? Don't be so short-sighted.Then you could only do it once. and your opponent would know what move they would be locked into so they could make better decisions. Im sure there's some case where switcharooing a choice item is better, but in general, encore is the way to go.
I disagree, I've found Erufuun to always pull it's weight on my teams and it has found its way into the pool of 20~ Pokemon that all my teams are comprised of.j7r said:I know I've said this before but I feel even more confident about it now than I did a couple of months ago: I'll be surprised if this thing is above NU. It's a decent gimmick, but it's still a gimmick. There's a reason why SubSeeders aren't popular in OU.
I concede that point.j7r said:Plus, its back sprite looks like a butthole.
I meant that if the final, most important purpose was to lock a pokemon into a move, then yes, you can only do it to one pokemon. After youve switched youre item over to another poke, thats the last time you can lock a pokemon into one move unless you spend a few turns in getting another choiced pokemon in, then taking its item, then getting it out, then putting the item on another pokemon, while you can encore as many times as you want, no matter what has already happened. also, if the pokemon switched back in with its choice item, it will know exactly what it will be locked into, as opposed to having encore be a surprise and wasting a few turns setting up or something like that. Finally, whimiscott must have a choice item at first, which drastically reduces his versatility as if he wants to be able to switch moves to subseed or paralyze and then do something else or whatever, he has to switch items first, which not only wastes a turn that he might not want to use, then he has already taken his one shot that switcharoo allows him to have on something that may not even care about being choiced. so as ive already said, switcharoo does have some advantages, but as we were discussing the best way to lock another pokemon into a move exclusively, encore is better at doing that.Who says? If you switcharoo, you get their item. Put a choice-item on their favorite set-up poke. Now you have it's life-orb/leftovers to put on any poke run choice on. What are you really going to do once your choice-scarf garchomp has leftovers; or, if you're really good, black sludge? At which point, you can do it again, and pretty much wreak havok on their item-base, giving their walls life-orbs and their sweepers leftovers. Sure, you'll probably get kind of predictable after the first few times; you wont ever be able to completely mess up a whole team. But only do it once? Don't be so short-sighted.
Taunt fodder. Really, add u-turn somewhere in there. Or your own Taunt.What I use:
Lefties Number
@: Lefties
~Leech Seed
~Toxic
~Encore
~Sub
Sweeps teams.
Yesh.Noob question, but does Taunt go thru Sub?