I can attest that Tyranitar and Rhyperior, despite seen as a bad combination, make a powerful duo when you can use them right. I know you would find a way to use them together (and trust me once you get the hang of things its rather easy) and like I said the Choice Band Tyranitar still accomplishes most of the work thanks to Aqua Tail. It eliminates the troublesome physical walls and, when Tyranitar feels threated by Bronzong, swap to Rhyperior and start wrecking shit. I'm glad that you've found a way to use it Chou. Actually I'd like to add that in the OP myself if you don't mind.
As for the rest of you, I'd like to question how many times you've actually USED Rhyperior. Want to make the argument about accuracy? Why do you use Focus Blast on Gengar? Why do we use Fire Blast on Infernape? Megahorn's accuracy is the same AS Fire Blast but with more PP. It's never stopped anyone from using it on Heracross either... so what the hell?
I won't quote you Lightsabre since its pretty self-explainatory, but glad you liked it. Nice when Celebi wants to try to ruin things.
I'm not going to quote the rest because I think I need to address this quickly.
Metagross can reach past Timid ScarfTran. Point taken. But, do you really think that, after posting the calculations with Rhyperior, that he too is utterly "destroyed" by said Heatran? I don't think so. Bullet Punch Scizor becomes a problem and Ice Shard sort of hurts but other than that... not much else. Bullet Punch nor Ice Shard will OHKO (with Solid Rock its possible they won't 2HKO unless its Choice Band Scizor). Some of you simply don't realize the advantages because Agility Metagross, despite being pretty good, NEEDS that third move to be effective. Without it, Metagross struggles against a ton of threats (Zapdos and Gyarados, I can go on...). Rhyperior struggles against Bronzong for the most part and one Magnezone handles it. To handle the said three for Metagross, you possibly need more than one Pokemon. As for DDTar, you forget a lot of things about this too:
- It is still slower than Dugtrio (!!!)
- It is also slower than Timid ScarfTran
- Slower than Shaymin-S (are we there yet?)
- Bullet Punch from Scizor nearly OHKOes (without the Swords Dance)
I don't think I have to go any further with this. Hopefully you simply get the picture. To say Rhyperior is outclassed in this department, I'd sadly have to say that you're mistaken.
Also, sorry that I missed post #50, but Avalanche is still a cool option, though I'd argue that Aqua Tail is slightly better with the reliability of striking first when Rhyperior has the chance.
As for the rest of you, I'd like to question how many times you've actually USED Rhyperior. Want to make the argument about accuracy? Why do you use Focus Blast on Gengar? Why do we use Fire Blast on Infernape? Megahorn's accuracy is the same AS Fire Blast but with more PP. It's never stopped anyone from using it on Heracross either... so what the hell?
And that is the point that I am bringing up to everyone. You should use Rhyperior to its strengths as like how I am showing. Trust me, using Rhyperior requires a little more creativity than one usually can muster; however, it is very effective in OU. I'm not trying to overhype this either because it is easy to prove how much of a threat it can be in the OU environment.MythTrainerInfinity said:
Very cool. I'm going to agree that you could've attempted Substitute / Rock Slide / Earthquake / Megahorn if for beating Starmie and Celebi (very possible). But glad you've tried it out and liked it. I've addressed the innacuracy but... it has never stopped many of us from choosing moves such as Focus Blast, Fire Blast > Flamethrower, etc before. And I'm not being cruel about this either.SceptileGen said:
I won't quote you Lightsabre since its pretty self-explainatory, but glad you liked it. Nice when Celebi wants to try to ruin things.
I remember this RMT (sadly I didn't post in it) but it was well-built before Platinum came.Stalefish said:
I don't think I have to be honest. But using Azumarill is cool too. Anyway, I should've put Megahorn as the option with Swords Dance when I originally wrote this (and it isn't too late to do this) and the Stone Edge / Megahorn / Earthquake combo is perfectly viable since Bronzong won't enjoy repeated Megahorns either. I've liked Swords Dance because, after using Substitute, it is very possible to use it. But hey, I'd like to see your team when you post it. Quad Scarf seems a little overkill to me however. >_>; (But not shooting it down either).Stathakis said:
I'm not going to quote the rest because I think I need to address this quickly.
Metagross can reach past Timid ScarfTran. Point taken. But, do you really think that, after posting the calculations with Rhyperior, that he too is utterly "destroyed" by said Heatran? I don't think so. Bullet Punch Scizor becomes a problem and Ice Shard sort of hurts but other than that... not much else. Bullet Punch nor Ice Shard will OHKO (with Solid Rock its possible they won't 2HKO unless its Choice Band Scizor). Some of you simply don't realize the advantages because Agility Metagross, despite being pretty good, NEEDS that third move to be effective. Without it, Metagross struggles against a ton of threats (Zapdos and Gyarados, I can go on...). Rhyperior struggles against Bronzong for the most part and one Magnezone handles it. To handle the said three for Metagross, you possibly need more than one Pokemon. As for DDTar, you forget a lot of things about this too:
- It is still slower than Dugtrio (!!!)
- It is also slower than Timid ScarfTran
- Slower than Shaymin-S (are we there yet?)
- Bullet Punch from Scizor nearly OHKOes (without the Swords Dance)
I don't think I have to go any further with this. Hopefully you simply get the picture. To say Rhyperior is outclassed in this department, I'd sadly have to say that you're mistaken.
Also, sorry that I missed post #50, but Avalanche is still a cool option, though I'd argue that Aqua Tail is slightly better with the reliability of striking first when Rhyperior has the chance.
