I don't understand what you guys are saying... there are loads of pics where the current record and previous are the same and not divisible by 7, aren't there?oh yeah, another hacker discovered. now that is stupid. my suggestion is that he is removed from the list, and then these posts referring to it are also removed so future (unusually stupid) hackers don't get the idea of "make it a multiple of 7".
you can't see that record screen if you are still going on a set of 7.I don't understand what you guys are saying... there are loads of pics where the current record and previous are the same and not divisible by 7, aren't there?
I see no problems here. If you lose on battle 241, the computer says your current streak is 240.Hey, I just noticed something strange about keeret's D/P Double Battle Tower 240 streak: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1549937&postcount=899
He said the streak ended at 240 (by poor play and misclick), with a photo of it, but then, the photo says "CURRENT Win Streak: 240" ... and of course 240 is not divisible by 7 either so he couldn't have just taken a picture after 240 and then lost at 241. Soooo yeah, a bit strange.
As far as I was told at the EB near me, it does come standard with them here. No idea what your EB people are talking about.but if you preorder you get the pokewalker, which i thought came standard with them.
TRE, do you see the 'broken streak' screen that infrequently? :)Ah, my mistake. I never even noticed that it changes between "Current" and "Prev".
Hmm, 802 wins? If you did get that many wins you are WAY luckier than I am because I can tell you now I wouldn't be able to get more than 200-300 wins at most with it. When I play with a team the AI usually finds its weak spots within a few hundred wins. There just seem to be so many things that can go wrong with this team:Platinum Battle Tower Single Record - 802 wins
(Uxie, Salamence, Drapion)
http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq39/pmasison/zzx.png
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Uxie @ Choice Scarf ** SHIBBY
Levitate | Bold
EVs: 248HP / 70Def / 192SpDef
-Trick
-Thunder Wave
-Flash
-Memento
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Salamence () @ Lum Berry
Intimidate | Adamant
EVs: 6HP / 252SAtk / 252 Spe
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Dragon Dance
-Substitute
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Drapion () @ Black Sludge ** QUINCY
Battle Armor | Careful
EVs: 252HP / 6Def / 252SpDef
-Crunch
-Acupressure
-Substitute
-Rest
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you all know the strategy to this one, no need to explain because i'm not good with words.
my Drapion is very similar to jump's Drapion except for the IVs of course
lost to an Electrode of all things
522 | Electrode | Timid | Brightpowder | Charge Beam | Thunder Wave | Flash | Swagger | SpA/Spe
trick never hit after swagger and it got a +3 SpAtk from Charge Beam after killing Uxie
(THE mistake) i send out Drapion, trode used swagger, Drap hit himself blabla after Drapion trode was up +6 SpAtk and i already know it was over
i send out Salamence, trode Charge Beams, i survived (!) with 5 (or 6) HP, EQ for OHKO
foe sends out Dugtrio, Sludgebomb for the KO
so i figured that if i sent out Salamence instead of Drapion, i still might have a chance to win it
lol Electrode, so embarrasing
videos:
69-42830-20232 battle 763
30-44234-25687 battle 803 how i lost
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That's an epic picture... I love it how Jumpman's original photo with Ursaring inspired a record-picture revolution. Also, awesome double team and record... can't say much more than that since I suck at doubles.EDIT: Ok let's see how this one shows up (taken from Photo Booth on my laptop lol):
I guess so... but the first team only got 196, so that one was 'meh'.Peterko said:by the way you´re the person with the most teams put on the list ;)
Best. Typo. Ever. (if you know what I mean) Oh, but it probably is worth fixing before the next update...Bozo said:hehe one of his names is a DDimentio still ;)
not that i am defending the likilihood of this streak being legit, but...... this is a pretty terrible critique of the team. i dont have the time now to go into a discussion (ie argument lol) about it, but i'll just say that drapion+salamence were put to great use by DrDimentio (streak of over 600), and i think the synergy is there. of course things like CH thunder raikou could be a problem, but then again there is always some amount of risk (this situation is only about 1% more likely than a QC+OHKO, which is pretty much a deadly combination to face). you also seem to be knocking the very idea of drapion which, thanks to jumpman's success, is pretty much a losing battle.Hmm, 802 wins? If you did get that many wins you are WAY luckier than I am because I can tell you now I wouldn't be able to get more than 200-300 wins at most with it. When I play with a team the AI usually finds its weak spots within a few hundred wins. There just seem to be so many things that can go wrong with this team:
congrats on the streak man! you know, the funny thing is that i only have two pokemon figurines - a pikachu and a munchlax - if i could have found my munchlax the other day, he would have been in my 1001 picture instead of my lego darth vader. absolutely love the pic!!
not that i am defending the likilihood of this streak being legit, but...... this is a pretty terrible critique of the team. i dont have the time now to go into a discussion (ie argument lol) about it, but i'll just say that drapion+salamence were put to great use by DrDimentio (streak of over 600), and i think the synergy is there. of course things like CH thunder raikou could be a problem, but then again there is always some amount of risk (this situation is only about 1% more likely than a QC+OHKO, which is pretty much a deadly combination to face). you also seem to be knocking the very idea of drapion which, thanks to jumpman's success, is pretty much a losing battle.
anyway........ maybe someone else will say more about this.
star wars?- fixed deedee
- added star wars
- deleted keeret
- added doody and another one
my apologies - i forgot that was with registeel. pretty dure DrD also had a good streak that involved drapion, but perhaps he had garchomp as backup.Could only find the Salamence+Registeel 600+ streak? Can you link me to the Drapion+Salamence one, I've looked but don't see it anywhere.
If you think the synergy is there that's fair enough and we can agree to disagree. If you find the time, I would be curious to know why you think my critique is not valid and what you think would pose problems to this team instead.
generally when this comes out, salamence and drapion will be set up, and dispose of it easily. besides, salamence outspeeds and OHKO's this electivire with outrage even with no stat boosts. if it is a lead, then i guess it will get locked on thunder punch, and flashed + memento'd.Electrivire with Earthquake, Ice Punch, Motor Drive and a Shucca Berry.
the point of these trick teams is that noone is doing *anything* left right and centre. the lead is locked into one move, and the backup pokes are usually OHKO'd before they can do anything. these kind of comments make me wonder.....Similarly things like Zapdos could really annoy the shit out of you with its pesky moves. That doesn't even take into account yet the haxy paralysis that these badboys will be sending you right, left and center.
ummmmm.......... yeah. its kinda the point with a trick team though, right? sure, bad things can happen when you are unable to trick (we all know about gastrodon etc). but the point is that 99% of the time you dont have to worry about that kind of thing. i faced a lead manectric that BP'd me twice in a row - a third one and i would have been in some trouble - this kind of thing happens, and its then that you realise - heck salamence could probably win 50% of these battles on his own.Okay, Uxie is awesome and I personally find him the best lead out there in the BT. Your whole strategy seems to revolve around him and Trick though.
another comment that really makes me wonder. how would a flinch or CH crunch etc prevent uxie from using trick? IT HAS A CHOICE SCARF.What do you do if Uxie can't lock an enemy into a move because of some CH Crunch/Shadow Ball, Flinch-hax, stupid ability or Brightpowder?
sure, in a perfect world, you'd have roost on there as well, but we only have room for 4 moves.This guy does not have Roost! There are just so many things out there that you don't want to use Drapion on and won't be able to get more than +2/+3 Att on with Salamence if you pull off a Trick.
that is almost always enough.
You will be using Sub and your Hp will be going down so fast you won't find the time to use DD a lot. Even with Flash-Memento-Intimidate things like Sandstorm/Hail, SE moves and Critical hits will make that Hp go down so fast.
if salamence is stuck against SE moves you will probably lose - its got nothing to do with lack of roost, more a bad situation probably due to lack of set-up. as for sandstorm/hail, if youve locked the opponent on those moves, salamence has an easy set up. he can get to +6/+6 with a sub and about 4-5 turns to attack. if its abomasnow/hippo/ttar then you'll have to decide what is appropriate (probably drapion).
You may say that you have EQ as type coverage to compensate for less Att but that is only true to a certain extent. What if you end up using Outrage against something and get locked into it against an opponent that you could have killed with EQ? But no, he ends up killing your Salamence because you got locked into Outrage.
this is just an argument against outrage itself. EQ is great for protection against the confusion fromoutrage. at +6, EQ does insane damage to just about everything, so i hardly ever use outrage, apart from fliers, levitators, (some) resists, etc. if you only have outrage, then you will often be confused before dealing the final blow - things like focus sash/band, static, flame body, etc mean salamence gets confused more often than you'd think.
It gets worse because the Ground/Steel/Rock type that are likely to survive these Outrages often carry Ground moves that will make sushi out of your Poison-typed Drapion before you can say 'crap'.
which is why its good to have a ground resist that has a SE move against those pokemon. at +6, outrage even OHKO's all metagross (and just about always OHKO's skarmory) - the only notable exception is steelix and registeel - these are easy 2HKO's though, so with a sub you'll hopefully have no problems.
you have a snorlax plush doll? i am so jealous!!!!!!!!!Thanks, DrDimentio and Bozo! I only have that Munchlax and a Snorlax plush (both BDay gifts from my pokemon buddy).
Well what I meant was that paralysis is annoying if its on damaging moves like Thunder/Thunderbolt from guys with high Sp. Att. If any one of them can kill Uxie before they are weakened they pose a threat. Having played with a team with no Electric resistance for a few hundred battles, at least 1/7 trainers had Electrics and it does add up. You really need to hope they don't kill your lead and paralyse stuff every time. I can make a list examples if you really like but I think you get the idea.With T-Wave you just use memento and sub with Salamence or something, they are easy. Maybe by using Latias so much you may be underestimating how much of a threat Electric/Paralysis end up being.Bozo said:so, since there are equally strong attacking moves of both types, i can only assume you are more worried about things like thunderwave.
Zapdos 924 has U-turn, so much for locking him into stuff. Zapdos 938 has Brightpowder and only needs one miss, one CH or one turn to paralyse Uxie to end up facing Salamence/Drapion with a nice Speed boost. He can then 2HKO Drapion without even needing paralysis and Salamence won't be happy either. Zapdos 910 has slightly less Sp. Att but still is a threat, just like Zapdos 896 which has the 120 power Thunder.Bozo said:the point of these trick teams is that noone is doing *anything* left right and centre. the lead is locked into one move, and the backup pokes are usually OHKO'd before they can do anything. these kind of comments make me wonder.....Calisto said:Similarly things like Zapdos could really annoy the shit out of you with its pesky moves. That doesn't even take into account yet the haxy paralysis that these badboys will be sending you right, left and center.
This was just meant to illustrate that you could be in serious trouble if you end switch on a threatening lead and up paralysed.Calisto said:Electrivire with Earthquake, Ice Punch, Motor Drive and a Shucca Berry.
- Gengar 419, outspeeds Uxie and can OHKO with a CHBozo said:another comment that really makes me wonder. how would a flinch or CH crunch etc prevent uxie from using trick? IT HAS A CHOICE SCARF.
what a shameful shameful way to kick you out of the factory - i hate how the frontier thinks it has to do things like that :(I lost against Thorton, and didn't get the gold print.
i like it a lot - i think when my current singles streak comes to an end i'll be doing a doubles run with a rain dance team similar to this. i love the idea of helping hand on vappy. if he ends up going down, ludi and kingdra can both fire off surfs while taking 1/4 damage from the friendly fire. i've always loved ludicolo, so i'm kinda looking forward to trying doubles. not that i'm hoping my streak ends....Thoughts on team?