Yeah, but the problem with Sucker Punch is that it isn't reliable, as it's not uncommon for Gengar to carry Substitute. Then again, with Taunt and some good prediction...w
wouldn't sucker punch be flat out better, and score a OHKO.
Yeah, but the problem with Sucker Punch is that it isn't reliable, as it's not uncommon for Gengar to carry Substitute. Then again, with Taunt and some good prediction...w
wouldn't sucker punch be flat out better, and score a OHKO.
Well needless to say it's not that great in practice but it was interesting to try, I did discover one thing is that I underestimated a full defensive Banette's ability to take attacks. It's quite a bit sturdier than I imagined but not quite enough to be pulling off a full defensive set, I do however actually see a practical application for Phantom Force on Banette however.Are you sure banette is sturdy enough to do that? Since WoW should be on a lot of sets, it's quite unlikely that people will let their physical attacker stay in, or even change one in - and special attackers will still do quite a lot of damage to banette. So in the end, you'll mostly have to immediately change out again with your moveset.
I think that if you run infestation on banette, you're pretty much required to run protect + sub, too. Or at least just protect so that you still can change out if your opponent has a move that you haven't anticipated.
It has priority taunt. Maybe likeYeah, but the problem with Sucker Punch is that it isn't reliable, as it's not uncommon for Gengar to carry Substitute. Then again, with Taunt and some good prediction...
Sorry can someone explain to me how Banette has priority for Infestation because I have researched on prankster and it says:Banette is pretty much the only priority Infestation user in the game meaning it could trap with Infestation, burn them before they get to move and Rest everything off, thanks to Wrap type moves damage buff this gen the passive damage can become crippling very fast.
Yes, but the point is that priority on the infestation itself doesn't matter as long as you don't get OHKOed on that turn anyway. The advantage of the prankster infestation are especially priority will-o-wisps and priority substitutes.Sorry can someone explain to me how Banette has priority for Infestation because I have researched on prankster and it says:
Increases the priority of non-attacking moves by 1. However, moves still circumvent Quick Guard. If a move such as Assist or Metronome calls a two-turn attack such as Fly, the second turn of the move does not fall under the effect of Prankster.
I think Infestation is considered an attacking move, no?
It can run T-Bolt with its decent enough 93 base special attack, though I wouldn't want to have to do so.MegaBannette has it's use, but honestly he needs a way more extensive movepool if he wants to be anything except for UU. Offensively he gets no coverage, and prankster-wise outside of Destiny Bond there's nothing special he can do that Sabeleye doesn't do better with priority recover and a better typing.
Ghost is a decent offensive typing but even on it's own it still gets walled by common dark-types and normal types. Sucker Punch is an option but that also has it's own problems... Taunt helps but it takes a lot of skill to taunt at just the right time.
It doesn't have priority. The point is after firing an Infestation it has a bunch of priority support moves it can fire off to support itself after which inadvertently also lets it avoid being Taunted. Most Infestation users don't have this luxury being mostly slow, examples being Dusclops, Gastrodon and Tangrowth who all have massive bulk but are very much vulnerable to something going wrong when trying to support themselves.Sorry can someone explain to me how Banette has priority for Infestation because I have researched on prankster and it says:
Increases the priority of non-attacking moves by 1. However, moves still circumvent Quick Guard. If a move such as Assist or Metronome calls a two-turn attack such as Fly, the second turn of the move does not fall under the effect of Prankster.
I think Infestation is considered an attacking move, no?
Even if it becomes predictable it doesn't stop it being any less dangerous. You seem to forget that when Banette isn't D-Bonding it has a massive attack and priority status to fall back on. The fear of D-Bond is extremely powerful, it alone can make some mediocre Pokemon like Froslass (provided they have something to take advantage of it) powerful enough to have been considered too strong for lower tiers in previous gens. Even in regular standard a fast D-Bond can threaten almost anything.Speaking about prankster + destiny bond...Just like how everyone has mentioned here, MegaBanette+prankster+DB is the way to go. However once this become well known, I doubt many people will really fall for this anymore, at least the veteran will not. People will just poison/burn/confused and wait till it dies by itself. So I was thinking, what if we change DB into something else?
Right...Right...this little pokemon is too damn tricky, never thought about this.Remember that Bannette is rather slow so her priority Destiny Bond is likely to be in effect for TWO of its opponent's moves if the move Bannette uses after DB does NOT have Prankster priority.
Its best use on Wifi is definitely the surprise factor. No one even knows it gets priority D-Bond. But several times they fail to KO Banette (due to lack of EV training I'm guessing) and realize what it can do to them, then they either switch out or spam Swords Dance forcing you to attempt to attack or keep D-Bonding until you run out of PP. It's always a Blaziken too.Want to share some awesome story that I experienced yesterday...
S0 I got a challenge from a random passerby and he lead on with Drifblim that do Minimize. Cant really do anything since I dont have a phaser and I think the Drifblim held an item that decrease opponent accuracy. After so many buff, it baton pass it to blaziken-M which proceed to kill my whole team...or at least that was his plan. I switch out to my banette and do protect+mega evolve. I do a DB but somehow survive a Mega-Blaziken attack. The opponent took a long time to think and decide to withdraw the Blaziken and there losing all the minimize buff!
Banette-M saves the day! Really loving this Mega XD
Yea, in that sense I really hope banette remain as an obscure Mega ><Its best use on Wifi is definitely the surprise factor. No one even knows it gets priority D-Bond. But several times they fail to KO Banette (due to lack of EV training I'm guessing) and realize what it can do to them, then they either switch out or spam Swords Dance forcing you to attempt to attack or keep D-Bonding until you run out of PP. It's always a Blaziken too.