I'm sure that argument can be made (I don't really want to argue about that even though I definitely disagree with it; it's kind of pointless), however; I don't think Ray Jay wouldn't have pointed it out if he thought that just switching into Snover was good enough.
Also keep in mind that Bronzor has over 67% chance to lose right off the bat even
without hail.
(I think Spoink worked better?)
Ray Jay has offered to pay me a pretty penny but I nobly declined.
spuds4ever said:
Surskit @eviolite
EVs: 116 HP, 196 SpA, 180 SpD
Modest, Swift Swim
-Signal Beam
-Rest
-Sleep talk
-Agility
The first issue I have is that it's too cute.
I'm not going to argue that you can't get the Rest off, because you can almost all of the time.
The first weakness here is the iffyness of Restalk and not getting Agility (Signal Beam KOes Snover then Staryu coming in without you having an Agility which means it's still faster). If you Sleep Talk Signal Beam right away, you kill Snover after it hits you with a Giga Drain (-1 Hail from turn of Rest, -6 from Giga Drain, -1 from hail again) you are sitting at 14 HP. Then Staryu comes in and does 6 (average) + hail + another 6 (average) before you can Rest again, possibly 2HKOing your 14 HP with one max damage roll.
This of course raises the issue that you can get 3HKOed including Hail from both Psychic and Giga Drain (they both do 6 average) after Resting with an Agility and then revenged by Snover. You always lose if Snover is still alive because you can't kill both Staryu
AND Snove. If Snover is dead:
Turn 1.
Surskit uses Rest.
Psychic (6) damage
Hail (1) Damage
Surskit @ 15
Turn 2.
Surskit uses Sleep Talk
Psychic + Hail (7)
Surskit @ 8 HP
Turn 3:
Surskit uses Sleep Talk
Psychic + Hail (7)
Surskit @ 1 HP.
Psychic: 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7
Giga Drain: 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 8
Signal Beam vs Staryu: Guaranteed 2HKO
So you CAN win here because you survive with 1 HP. But if you KO Staryu you lose to Snover (if Snover is still alive) because of priority.
In short (ie if you don't want to read the proof above):
- You lose without the correct timing / good Sleep Talks
- You lose if Staryu goes down in your last Sleep Talk with Snover still alive.
- You lose if they get a single max damage roll.
Maybe try playing with the EVs or moves a bit, I think there actually is a set that would almost all of the time.