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Simple Questions & Simple Answers & General Resources (OU Edition) MK II

Discussion in 'BW OU' started by Matthew, Nov 4, 2012.

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  1. Rhys DeAnno

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    Sand teams often have nonresistant pokemon that get caught in the crossfire, it's fine. It's probably better to have SS on the Tyranitar just so it can cancel out the less neutral Sun and Rain that other teams might bring.

    EDIT: And yeah, Ttars SpD is nothing special without sand, makes him a lot worse.
  2. thunderstone

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    Should you run Timid or Modest on a special attacking Samurott when used in an OU environment? In the NU analysis it recommends Timid, I was wondering if that speed makes a difference at all in OU. Don't worry, it's not for laddering!
  3. Jukain

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    No clue why you're using Samurott, but that's beside the point. You'll want Modest because Samurott needs all the power it can get in OU.
  4. thunderstone

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    A small tournament a friend of mine is organising with a bunch of arbitrary rules to make it all more 'fun' - anyway, thank you for your help.
  5. Flashstorm1

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    What EV spread and nature should be run on a Specially Defensive Jirachi running Thunder as opposed to Body Slam?
  6. Onicon

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    You can try something like Calm 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Sp. That's enough speed to outrun Tyranitar. You also can run 96 on speed if you want to cross over Mamoswine but it misses the defensive part a bit.
  7. dragonuser

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    Jirachi set (open)

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    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Wish
    - Thunder
    - Iron Head
    - U-turn / Protect


    That is the spread I use with Thunder Specially Defensive Jirachi. A Sassy nature lowers Speed, meaning that neither your Defenses/Attacks are lowered/weakened. The EVs are fairly simple and maximize Jirachi's Special bulk.
  8. lokt

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    What is the Iv combination for hp ice forretress with 2 speed ivs?
  9. ClubbingSealCub

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    If I'm not mistaken, having 2 IVs in speed and 31 in every other stat will give you a 70 BP Hidden Power Ice.
  10. Louiss

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    does Hailstorm boost ice moves and give ice type pokemon an 1.5 defense boost? (heard rumors about it)

    edit: nvm i misread it
  11. BlankZero

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    I thought HP Ice was 30 Def with an Even Attack stat? like 30/30 or 30/2?

    Just checked my HP checker. Your spread works.
  12. ClubbingSealCub

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    Taken from Smogon's Breeding Guide Part IV:
    All IV numbers are odd except for speed, which gives us 32+16+4+2+1 = 55

    All of our numbers are odd after division by 2 (31/2 = 15; 2/2 = 1)

    32+16+8+4+2+1 = 63
    63*40/63 is obviously, 40
    40 + 30 = 70 base power
  13. voodoo pimp

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    Considering there are 64 different odd/even permutations, and only 16 types not counting Normal, most types have more than one spread. There are four different spreads that give HP Ice:

    odd/odd/odd/odd/odd/even
    odd/even/even/odd/odd/odd
    even/odd/even/odd/odd/odd
    even/even/even/odd/odd/odd
  14. Sciztar

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    Does Sharpedo outspeed Non Scarf Latios after +2 from Speed Boost? Also how do you calculate his speed stat after a Speed Boost?
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    Current Speed = Speed*(1+0.5*n)
    where n is the number of boosts

    For example, Sharpedo's Speed (252 EVs, neutral nature) at +2 would be:
    289*(1+0.5*2) = 289*(1+1) = 289*2 = 578

    Max Speed Latios without a Scarf is 350, so Sharpedo would outspeed it.
  16. Sciztar

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    Thanks that help, but how do I calculate Pokemon with Choice Scarf? Also would a Adamant Nature Sharpedo out speed Latios?
  17. ClubbingSealCub

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    Hell, it even outspeeds Scarf Latios too (525)

    EDIT:
    Choice Scarf functions as a final *1.5 modifier. Since scarfed 'mons usually don't rack up speed boosts, it's normally the same as having a +1 in speed.

    However, if a +1 speed 'mon gets a choice scarf (via trick or scarfed speed boost (which is dumb don't do it) the result is X * 1,5(+1 boost) * 1,5(scarf)

    For a mon with 100 speed, and a +2 boost, for example - it would be at 200 speed due to the boosts. Choice Scarf multiplies that result by 1,5 granting the mon 300 speed. If said mon was at +1 instead, it would be 150*1,5 = 225

    Scarf Latios, the mon you asked for, goes from 350 to 525.

    Adamant Sharpedo would have 289 speed at +0, having 578 speed at +2 which is still more than Scarf Latios.
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    Choice Scarf is the same as a +1 boost. You would multiply the Pokémon's Speed by 1.5.

    My calculation was for an Adamant Sharpedo. "Neutral nature" means any nature that does not effect (raise or lower) Speed.
  19. Manitary

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    252+ Latios has 350 speed, with a scarf he has 350*1.5=525
    252+ Sharpedo has 317 speed, after a +2 he has 634
    252 Sharpedo has 289 speed, after a +2 he has 578
    So an Adamant Sharpedo at +2 outspeed a scarf Timid Latios
  20. JoshuaMunoz

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    What is a good electric resist/ immunity in an offensive rain team? And is having two choiced water types a good idea? (specs toad and scarf keldeo)
  21. Reymedy

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    Well the first things coming into my mind are Thundurus-T and Ferrothorn, but it higly depends on the rest of the team.
    Having two choiced pokemons like this doesn't matter the slightest since most of the Rain offences carry this combination.
  22. Onicon

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    If it supposed to be a Water mon, an electric resistance will be impossible. There are two relatively viable options with electric immunity, Gastrodon and Swampert. Neither of them are fast, Swampert is additionally vulnerable to Scald, but they do some good damage choiced, especially Gastrodon once its Storm Drain ability activates.
    Other options are Dragons without a Flying type like for example the Lati@s, who has both Surf and Thunder. Zapdos is not immune to electrics until it gets Lightningrod, but even then it can put STAB Thunder into good use. Thundurus-T and Jolteon have Volt Absorb, which is not as good as Lightningrod, but nonetheless grants immunity to electrics.
    Last but not least there is Sheer Force Landorus, who is a fair stand-alone mon with little need for support.
  23. mew420

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    hello people. just wondering if any of you could suggest team mates for regenerator tangrowth and slowking that might help them function in ou.
  24. gengarsnemisis

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    So I'm interested in the concept of dual screens and a team that really benefits from it. What are some pokemon that really really aprreciate a dual screen support?
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    Set-up pokemons overrall.
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