Okay, ive made some changes in the viability ranks because its like 7 in the morning and its been a few days so might as well. Also, wow that Moltres argument shit :x Okay, so here are the moves that have been made this time around Alomomola from D rank -----> C rank Haunter from Untested -----> C rank Gothorita is now untested Im fairly happy with how this turned out, Alomomola really deserved a bit more recognition for its wishpassing niche despite how much i hate its vulnerability to set up sweepers, and while Haunter has its flaws, such as extreme fraility and competition with Rotom in particular, its still a pretty cool Pokemon and i think its positive traits make it fit solidly into C rank. Im not sure where i'd place Gothorita, as i have limited experience with it, but i'd probably place it in either D rank or C rank, depending on how my testing turns out, it has a definite niche in Shadow Tag, thats for sure! Also, here is the proposed change for this round (holy shitstorm .-.) Moltres down from S rank -----> A rank Im going to honestly say i also strongly disagree with moving Moltres down to A rank. While Stealth Rock is admittedly a problem for any Moltres user, its not like Moltres is completely useless even if Stealth Rock is up, it still has those impressively powerful dual STABs and reliable recovery in the form of to work with, and even with Stealth Rock up, it can still find opportunities to switch in against various defensive Grass-types, Steelix iirc, and things like Escavalier who struggle to break through Moltres even when its at half hp. When Stealth Rock isnt up, Moltres is a true monster to behold, and nobody can deny thing, with just its STAB moves alone, i can only thing of two Pokemon in RU that can reliably switch into Moltres: Specially defensive Regirock and Lanturn, not just do these two lack reliable recovery, but they also take a fair amount from Hidden Power Grass as well, making them less solid as counters. As mentioned by many users before me, its rather easy to keep Stealth Rock off the field in a tier where the two best spinners in the tier effortlessly swat away the spinblockers, and one of them (Kabutops) even shares excellent synergy with Moltres otherwise. Moltres is also seen as a metagame defining Pokemon, one of the main qualities most S rank Pokemon have, when i think of a Pokemon i absolutely have to have a way to check to be successful, Moltres is one of the first Pokemon that comes to mind (along with Nidoqueen and Sceptile). Honestly, while Moltres does have some flaws that hold it back when not dealt with (even though dealing with them is super easy) I'd still say that its positive traits outweigh its negative traits by a really large margin, and that these positive traits are enough to keep it S rank, imo. Also, to answer your question, Tornadus-T was S rank in the OU thread before being sent off to Ubers despite needing direct support from Politoed to function anwhere near its full potential, unless you mean only RU pokes.