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VGC Ask a Simple Question, Get a Simple Answer - Mark II

Discussion in 'Past Format Discussion' started by Solace, Aug 11, 2012.

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  1. Agonist

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    Gastrodon is my check for Rain teams, and I have a TR Abomasnow in addition.
  2. Golden Piloswine

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    ok, thanks I'll look into this.
  3. Infinity.Cypher

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    Something fun with Musharna is Gravity + Hypnosis. Although this prevents Helping Hand boosts, it brings Gravity, making high-power low-accuracy moves to hit now, so no more Rock Slide misses, no more Megahorn misses, no more Hydro Pump misses, so Rhyperior, Escavalier, and Hypnosis Hydro Pump Politoed works with Gravity Musharna. Especially Rhyperior since it can now spam EQ without hitting Musharna while hitting their Cress or Thundurus.
  4. Sidfrid

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    Hello guys!
    I've been wondering how does the resistant berries work in the case of a critical hit.
    Since crit bypass any drops in attack and boost in defense, will the crit also bypass the berry effect?
  5. Chenkovsky

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    Crit's don't bypass the berries affect although it does render the berry useless as 1*0.5*2=1
  6. chaoguy

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    Hey sorry if this question is too broad, can some one give me a TL;DR of the current meta? I've been out of the game for about a year, year and a half. What's are the current most popular team comps? What pokemon are "flavor of the month?"

    Thanks!
  7. hathater

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    Rain teams are very popular.
    the main threats are generally terrakion, and the genies (landorous thundurous, tornadous). Hail is incresingly popular. Goodstuff is popular as well. sandstorm is popular
    EDIT: Oops, forgot to say rotom formes are popular; especially washing machine rotom (rotom w)
  8. Anas2k7

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    Polidra
    Therian formes
    Tornadus
    Latios/latias
    random trick room stuff
  9. tlyee61

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    omg the previous two posters talking about the metagame haven't mentioned one thing: CRESSELIA!
    but anyway, here are things you want counters to:
    Cress
    Metagross
    Rain teams
    Sand
    Thundurus (-T)
    Hitmontop
    Landorus-T
    Intimidate Scrafty
    Rotom-W
    Hydreigon
    Latios
    Salamence
    SD Scizor
    Gastrodon
    *probably forgot some, will edit in later*
  10. Anas2k7

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    fixed it for u
  11. RedSpyda

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    Was there any word on the spring regionals and who won?
  12. tlyee61

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    wait, what? how is taking out things fixing something?

    p.s. it's FTFY

    twitter.com/nuggetbridge has them, but you might have to dig through some tweets.
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  14. Brophlosion

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    Is the next tourney Nats?
  15. Dozz

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    The next "real life" tournament for the US is Nationals, but there's another international challenge in June I believe.
  16. Brophlosion

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    and after nats is worlds right?
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  18. hathater

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    breloom or scizor? they both have technician, priority stab etc. scizor has a better typing, while breloom has spore.
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    Well hathater, it solely depends on what your team needs, Scizor's typing is very nice except being weak to common fire moves, and Bullet Punch Technician Steel Gem can't be beat. While Breloom, has better offensive typiing with both grass and fighting. So it essentially depends on your team, it's needs, and it's weaknesses.
  20. M. Rock

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    No offense, but this is kind of a stupid question, and a pretty vague one at that. The logic in the question is like comparing apples to oranges: you can't label them similar because "they have Technician and priority STAB". Both have completely different roles on a team and both have different counters. Which one you're going to use depends on what the rest of your team looks like.

    However, if you're deciding which to start with to make a new team, here is what both are like:

    Scizor
    - Has these attacks to choose from (excluding his priority): Bug Bite, Acrobatics, and Nature Power (which, powered by an Occa Berry, is a Technician-boosted Fire move to hit other Steel-types).
    - Has a lone weakness to Fire
    - He makes a good user of Swords Dance and can reliably get it up once
    - Is is a simultaneous Dragon resist and weather counter, being able to handle Abomasnow and Tyranitar.
    - Bug Bite 2HKOs most Cresselia right through whatever berry they're using
    - In a flexible speed tier so he can be used in either Tailwind or Trick Room
    - Speaking of which, he learns Tailwind, and has the bulk and resistances to set it up
    - Because of his limited selection of viable moves and great typing (offensively and defensively), he's a very easy and straightforward Pokemon to use.
    - Keep him away from as many special attacks as possible, no matter the set
    - Dragons appreciate having him around, because he removes Abomasnow, Latios, and Cresselia (and Cress almost always has either Ice Beam, Icy Wind, or Thunder Wave). In turn, Dragons resist and threaten Fire-types, and a Dragon Gem Draco Meteor from Latios or Hydreigon very often KOs his best counter: Rotom-W.


    Breloom
    - His priority STAB has much better coverage than Bullet Punch
    - Bullet Seed can break Focus Sashes and Substitutes
    - He cannot handle Cresselia - rather, he is countered by it. This can somewhat be circumvented by having Spore, but you would have to invest in Spe a lot to catch Cress off-guard and Spore it before it causes trouble.
    - Less bulk and more weaknesses makes Focus Sash a viable item (especially if you opt for a speedy spread). Scizor would never need a sash.
    - However, unlike Scizor, Rain can actually help him survive Fire-type attacks.
    - He can't do much against other Fighting-types
    - Breloom is tougher to use, because using Spore effectively takes good prediction (against tougher players), and he has more type weaknesses to worry about. Regardless, the payoff of using him right is pretty great.
    - He can beat Rotom-W and Gastrodon. Scizor absolutely cannot fight Rotom, and he struggles with the latter.
    - Since Spore is his biggest niche, you want to have a Fake Out user. Or even a Taunt user to prevent the opponent from using Protect. Prankster Liepard can do both.
    - I've only used him once (as opposed to using Scizor for months), but I found he works best on a rain team. He is less weak to Fire, Spore is great, and he can beat some Pokemon that give rain trouble (Rotom, Gastrodon, Tyranitar, Abomasnow, etc.).

    That's all I can think of for now
  21. hathater

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    :'( thanks
  22. Kafei-

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    I download some pokemon's from the Pokecheck and the legality check is all green but the iv's is orange,is this valid to participate a vgc? im scared.
  23. Scorpiopt

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    its valid yes has long there is nothing red
  24. The Last Sheikah

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    Pokécheck reckons a bunch of my non-RNG'd Pokémon are suspicious because of how good they are. Actually quite proud of that :D
    If they're orange, then they're theoretically fine, but:
    1. You probably already know this but you need to download them through PokéGTS or something like that to avoid them having the ribbon Pokécheck gives them
    2. I personally wouldn't go to a live tournament with Pokémon from Pokécheck. There's a chance they'll still be detected as hacked even if Pokécheck didn't pick any problems up.
  25. Kaphotics

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    wrong

    anyways, orange is 'caution', still legal. Red is for hacked.
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