Resource Simple Questions & Simple Answers Thread

[Zpice]

With oricorio being qb and venomoth looking like a real worthy suspect next how many pokemon with qd would we ban before taking action on the move? just curious i dont think there should be action on it

I believe it would need to go into extreme lengths before the move must be taken into consideration. Smogon Tiering Policy priorities Pokemon bans first as it is the simplest form of tiering, but abilities (such as Unburden in our case) can get banned if far too many abusers exist (Grafaiai, Hitmonlee, Sceptile, Drifblim in order of viability)

If too many Pokemon end up getting banned, the next likely tiering action would be the Terrain Seeds* (Grassy/Electric Seed specifically for providing a defense boost for the Quiver Dance users among other sweepers) before tiering action such as banning moves can take place. Furthermore, Pokemon such as Masquerain and Vivillon aren't considered unhealthy presences as stand alone threats, so I don't believe a Quiver Dance ban will happen any time soon in ZU

*Do note I am not the one electing tiering decisions, take this information with a grain of salt

 

[Mightyena69]

is sticky web hyper offense any good?

 

[LettuceLeaf07]

is sticky web hyper offense any good?

Short answer: Yes.

It's not top-tier meta defining or anything, and Vikavolt is good outside of webs too, but it's not bad like Electric Terrain lol. Setup on mons like Mesprit, Mowtom, and SD H-Qwil appreciate the speed support, and naturally fast mons like the Oricorios and Virizion would love to not be outsped by Floatzel.

I uh, actually have no idea of what HO looks like in this meta outside of trick room, sun, and grass/psy terrain, so I'm hoping those are the abusers. The last time I ran a webs team, it wasn't HO, and found that I didn't needs webs every game.

 

[Number1MagcargoFan]

Wanting to get into the ZU tier. Gonna try to test out my boy Magcargo. Any tips on the meta and potential good teammates for him? I’m leaning towards the shell smash set over the stealth rocks tanky set.

 

[LettuceLeaf07]

Wanting to get into the ZU tier. Gonna try to test out my boy Magcargo. Any tips on the meta and potential good teammates for him? I’m leaning towards the shell smash set over the stealth rocks tanky set.

Here's a list of everything (off the top of my head) in the meta that can offensively check, defensively check, or (p)hase Magcargo:

checks

I'm assuming you are Focus Sash and are able to click Shell Smash, since there's probably no other way you are able to set up due to its frailty.

Encore ( )
Special Walls ( and it runs rock blast)
Things that get roar/dtail/haze (notably tera )
Hazards (breaks sash)
Priority ( )
these guys:
And anying base 110 speed or above (counting scarf Pass/Mowtom), which outspeeds you after a shell smash and notably includes Floatzel

which basically means pair it with twave/discharge lanturn and Sneasel-h and dont lose to whimsicott or the special walls, if you are going to keep using Magcargo. Sticky Web Vikavolt > Lanturn is also an option. The only way you are going to get Magcargo set up is with Focus sash, so hazard removal like Sandslash is important.

The VR is a good way to see what's good (and there's a reason Magcargo isn't on it lol). It needs a little update (eg. whimsicott is more common than currently implied) but its always a good resource for gauging the meta.

 

[Number1MagcargoFan]

Here's a list of everything (off the top of my head) in the meta that can offensively check, defensively check, or (p)hase Magcargo:

checks

I'm assuming you are Focus Sash and are able to click Shell Smash, since there's probably no other way you are able to set up due to its frailty.

Encore ( )
Special Walls ( and it runs rock blast)
Things that get roar/dtail/haze (notably tera )
Hazards (breaks sash)
Priority ( )
these guys:
And anying base 110 speed or above (counting scarf Pass/Mowtom), which outspeeds you after a shell smash and notably includes Floatzel

which basically means pair it with twave/discharge lanturn and Sneasel-h and dont lose to whimsicott or the special walls, if you are going to keep using Magcargo. Sticky Web Vikavolt > Lanturn is also an option. The only way you are going to get Magcargo set up is with Focus sash, so hazard removal like Sandslash is important.

The VR is a good way to see what's good (and there's a reason Magcargo isn't on it lol). It needs a little update (eg. whimsicott is more common than currently implied) but its always a good resource for gauging the meta.

Yeah I know he’s got a lot of problems. I always like to find ways to use him and I enjoy the challenge. Usually I do PU but figured I’d make it easier since it’s been a while. Thanks for the advice. I definitely will apply it

 

[Merryresult]

What are some teammate suggestions for Spiritomb? I really want to try it.

 

[wooper]

What are some teammate suggestions for Spiritomb? I really want to try it.

spiritomb needs some help getting past the fairy-type whimsicott, so pokemon like muk, charizard, and snorlax are good teammates. it also appreciates when regirock and opposing snorlax are weakened a bit before sweeping (assuming you are nasty plot + trick room), so again charizard and snorlax, as well as your own knock off users like mesprit, sandslash, and the aforementioned muk help to whittle them down