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SPOILERS! Legends ZA Data Dumps - Adding Info to OP

Man I know it's out of nowhere but it's 9 in the morning and I'm still baffled as to how much they fumbled my man Malamar. No Power Trip, no Stored Power, lost Superpower, its big-brained noodle-armed Mega gets Close Combat and higher Attack than Sp. Attack... What do they even want us to do with it lmao. I really hope Champions/gen10 gives it some cool toys, otherwise it's almost as stupid as Mega Pyroar (but that one can still be saved by the ability).
 
That's more up to ZA having smaller movepools I think. Poor Aurorus got freaking gutted for example. Lost even freaking Ancient Power.

About Mega abilities, a funny ability for Mega Gatr could be Disguise. You get at least one free setup turn! Not as good as Mimikyu obviously, since it lacks any immunities.
 
RocketSurgery said:
I know it's usually futile to suggest this, but maybe we try to not clog up an orange islands subforum thread with posts full of theorymoning calcs about a move and/or mega that might get rebalanced when they get released in an actual competitive game. For all we know the current calcs will end up being as useful as all the theorymoning about Legend Plate Arceus.
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Yeah, I know it's been brought up already but the analogy to Legend Plate Arceus could apply here to Mega Zygarde and Nihil Light too.

There's even a chance that Nihil Light might not even be in standard PvP or the classic battle system, much less the Mega Zygarde that exists in this game. The Legend Plate straight up isn't obtainable in SV despite technically being in the game data.

So all of this theorymonning might end up being for naught when the time comes for these new Megas to make it into classic battle system and official PvP, especially with Zygarde.
 
Eriorguez said:
Man, I wish they implemented the Legend Plate anyway, for shit and giggles.

Make a Legend Memory for Silvally too, guy may shoot up in viability lol. And perhaps a Legend Drive for Genesect, so Techno Blast turns into the most favourable out of Fire, Ice, Electric or Water, and thus there is a reason to use it.
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There is already a reason to use the Drives in Genesect, it maked it immune to Trick and is an item that can,t be Knocked... This would be relevant in OU, where half of the meta has Trick or Knock. In Ubers, where Genesect always resides, half of the meta (Arceus, Primals, Zacian, etc.) has an unknockable item, so poor Genesect can,t get a break.
 
I forgot that Absol was the first mega rogue you run into. I wonder if that's part of the reason it's getting another mega in DLC? I can see there being a mirror situation where you have to defeat Mega Absol Y towards the start of the DLC. Maybe you even use the other Mega Lucario?





mega garchomp z is just there for funsies.
 
I think Game Freak considers Absol to be an iconic mega, as much as Lucario or Charizard. It was one of the first revealed when the mechanic was announced (alongside Lucario, Blaziken, Ampharos, Mawile and Mewtwo) and it was one of the first to appear in the anime. Not to mention the fact that your rival uses it as their mega in X/Y. I'm not surprised at all that it, Lucario and Garchomp would get another mega

Speaking more selfishly, I never liked the original designs for Mega Absol, Mega Lucario or Mega Garchomp despite how much I like their base forms, so I'm glad they're getting a shot in a game that (overall) has much better designs for megas than X/Y did. If only they would have done the same for Heracross
 
Mario With Lasers said:
Man I know it's out of nowhere but it's 9 in the morning and I'm still baffled as to how much they fumbled my man Malamar. No Power Trip, no Stored Power, lost Superpower, its big-brained noodle-armed Mega gets Close Combat and higher Attack than Sp. Attack... What do they even want us to do with it lmao. I really hope Champions/gen10 gives it some cool toys, otherwise it's almost as stupid as Mega Pyroar (but that one can still be saved by the ability).
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malamar already gets stored power, and superpower isn't in za lol

I'm sure they'll cook something for malamar and that's why it's stats are so bad, they might do a blastoise/heracross and give it the moves it needs to function (power trip) in champions. If you really wanna cope, the reason it gets a big special attack boost is because they'll give it psycho boost lol
 
R_N said:
I forgot that Absol was the first mega rogue you run into. I wonder if that's part of the reason it's getting another mega in DLC? I can see there being a mirror situation where you have to defeat Mega Absol Y towards the start of the DLC. Maybe you even use the other Mega Lucario?





mega garchomp z is just there for funsies.
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it's all fun and games until Megachomp Z turns out to be Volo's new ace (Togekiss isn't in the datamined dlc returning mons list but shhhh)
 
Serebii has added a page on Size Variance for LZ-A and it does differ from SV as far as the internal value ranges go. In the Paldea games, values 60-195 (no lock-on size indicator) encompass size classifications S, M, and L, whereas in this game size classification M is tied to a range of values larger than that, at 48-207.

Given that Pumpkaboo and Gourgheist had their Average and Super Size varieties renamed to Medium and Jumbo varieties respectively, are each of its four forms locked to specific size value ranges that match the name of their forms? If so, can Small variety Pumpkaboo/Gourgeist have both the S and XS size classifications on their summary screen?

If the variety of pumpkin is not locked to specific size ranges, I would guess that the actual size classification that would appear on their summary screen is overwritten to match their variety name instead, in a procedure unique to them. Hopefully someone with datamining capabilities can shed light on this.
 
Hi, I'm trying to extract data from the arc file myself, but I've hit a wall.
The file “avalondatatokusei_array.bin/0x68ab38e2cf1281ed”, which likely contains personal data, doesn't have an FBS schema.
There are many other files without FBS schemas too. Has anyone managed to extract this data accurately?
 
One thing about Nihil Light going beyond, and balance and the like...

As it does take a bit of inspiration from Z-moves, which are a "once in a fight" deal, well, Z-moves have something in common with a pair of plain moves. Namely, Sketch and Revival Blessing.

Nihil Light having a single PP may not be farfetched. Behemoth Blade and Behemoth Bash have different base PP than Iron Head as well.

So, yeah, I'm expecting the pseudo-Z-move nuke to have a single PP in Champions.
 
Eriorguez said:
One thing about Nihil Light going beyond, and balance and the like...

As it does take a bit of inspiration from Z-moves, which are a "once in a fight" deal, well, Z-moves have something in common with a pair of plain moves. Namely, Sketch and Revival Blessing.

Nihil Light having a single PP may not be farfetched. Behemoth Blade and Behemoth Bash have different base PP than Iron Head as well.

So, yeah, I'm expecting the pseudo-Z-move nuke to have a single PP in Champions.
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This might be true. However, unless they account for it, Zygarde is bulky enough to use Restalk, so it won't be one single nuke.
 
Elkos said:
That's more up to ZA having smaller movepools I think. Poor Aurorus got freaking gutted for example. Lost even freaking Ancient Power.

About Mega abilities, a funny ability for Mega Gatr could be Disguise. You get at least one free setup turn! Not as good as Mimikyu obviously, since it lacks any immunities.
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It is so annoying that Aurorus didn't get Power Gem. Since it wasn't in SV, it missed the Grand Power Gem Redistribution, where everyone and their grandma suddenly (but finally) got it.
 
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