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Pokemon Platinum - The definitive thread: Mach 2 (In-Game Discussion)

About Giratina's stats....

Origin has 10 more total base stats than the another form o.o

150 Hp/120Atk/100Def/130SAtk/100SDef/90Spe
150 Hp/100Atk/120Def/100satk/120SDef/90Spe
 
Thinking about it now, since you can probably alter between Rotom forms, what about mixxing movesets fromeach form to another (like Leaf Storm on Toaster Rotom, or funner to say, Toast'om if it is a fire type). Kinda like with Deoxys.
Well it's been reported that they're still Electric/Ghost though..
 
So, if this is true, Thunderpunch/Seed Bomb Breloom will be legit.
Who will greatly benefit from Outrage?

WHO IS GOING TO OFFER TUTORING SERVICES WHEN THE GAME IS OUT?
I would give a copy of any Pokemon to someone who could Heart Scale/Move Tutor a Poke for me.
I want Ice Punch on my Lucario ;_;
 
Well it's been reported that they're still Electric/Ghost though..


That would make sense if they had a different distribution of stats, but I think we can safely assume they will be different types, or we got the stats wrong. It is highly improbable that they would just give us choices of sprites, yet retaining the same skills/limitations.

EDIT: I will be seeing red the moment someone reports that Salamence can be tutored for outrage. I think Flygon deserves it the most, and they would be taking away from Dragonite's selling point. But honestly, I think Salamence will be the greatest beneficiary of Outrage.
 
Wow, Victreebel gets Leaf Blade! Finally, I think they deprived him long enough, considering his leafs are more blade like than Tropius... Sunny Day teams just grabbed a boost, with a solid physical sweeper. Swords Dance, then Return and Leaf Blade everything in sight, putting to sleep anything you can't deal with. Outclasses Leafeon a bit, don't ya think?
 
That would make sense if they had a different distribution of stats, but I think we can safely assume they will be different types, or we got the stats wrong. It is highly improbable that they would just give us choices of sprites, yet retaining the same skills/limitations.

EDIT: I will be seeing red the moment someone reports that Salamence can be tutored for outrage. I think Flygon deserves it the most, and they would be taking away from Dragonite's selling point. But honestly, I think Salamence will be the greatest beneficiary of Outrage.

I can imagine Gyarados getting it. Not that it'd be that useful on it though. Salamence with Outrage would be scary. Maybe they won't let it learn it?

Wow, Victreebel gets Leaf Blade! Finally, I think they deprived him long enough, considering his leafs are more blade like than Tropius... Sunny Day teams just grabbed a boost, with a solid physical sweeper. Swords Dance, then Return and Leaf Blade everything in sight, putting to sleep anything you can't deal with. Outclasses Leafeon a bit, don't ya think?
Maybe it'll get Gunk Shot too? They really went crazy with the offensive moves didn't they?
 
I think that they have tutor moves of all the base 120 and/or base 140 elemental moves o.o (i.e. Hydro Pump, Gunk Shot, etc...and/or Leaf Storm, Overheat etc....)
 
I'll give my badge to whoever translates this entire game into English by 11 PM Eastern time tomorrow.

This still stands.

Also, Salamence with Outrage ~_~

Only reason to use Dragonite becomes Thunder Wave and Screens?

Poor bulky Dragon that is actually outclassed in "useful" bulk due to Intimidate on Mence and a faster Mence Roost ;_;
 
That would be seriously good.

Such a shame Flareon's Lv78 move is Lava Plume. It's cousins get Muddy Water, Barrier, Swords Dance, Power/Guard Swap, and it gets Lava Plume.
 
Yeah, I seriously hope Salamence doesn't get Outrage, since Dragonite would instantly get a lot worse (even if it does have some small movepool advantages, Outrage is the real significant one). I wouldn't be surprised to see something like Gyarados getting it, though.
 
I think that they have tutor moves of all the base 120 and/or base 140 elemental moves o.o (i.e. Hydro Pump, Gunk Shot, etc...and/or Leaf Storm, Overheat etc....)
That should be Flare Blitz instead of Overheat.

Somehow I can imagine Game Freak introducing a Flare Blitz Move Tutor and still depriving Flareon of the move. They despise it, apparently.
 
I honestly think Gamefreak is on some kind of pokemon witch hunt to make the pokemon they don't like obselete. Why else would they screw Flareon and Flygon soo badly?

Yeah, Salamence would be ridiculous with Outrage. I will just cut out a picture of Dragonite and put it on Salamence when I battle with it, lol. He would be, without a doubt, the biggest immediate threat in OU. CB Outrage or Choice Specs Draco Meteor, pick your poison.

EDIT: Unfortunately, it would make sense for Salamence to learn Outrage if gamefreak neglects the metagame, because it is much angrier than Dragonite(Salamence is just pissy cause it is only 4'11", haha!)
 
Does anyone know the TM/HM list of the Rotom forms, Tina, and Skymin? I kinda don't like the idea of move tutor involving around the 120/140 moves. They were better spent on the elemental punches, useful moves like Rapid Spin and such.
 
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