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Okay so, I landed my initial seed, called Elm 28 times accounted 3 extra frames for my target, suicune and roamers entei/raikou to get a frame of 31

I encounter Suicune, not shiny, not bold nature, not 31 spd/spe

What could have happened? :S
 
Does the roaming Lati@s' frame need to be "calibrated" like you do with eggs in D/P/Pt? Once it has been, do I need to go for a spread specifically on that frame, unless I want to try and get lucky by pausing and letting the NPCs advance my frame?

EDIT: For that matter, is it easier to defeat it and RNG it during the E4?
 
It seems that the Elm-calling method is the new "Coin Flip" of the HG/SS.
I recently got an Ability 1, 31/31/22/11/26/31 IVd, Jolly Tyrogue, at Frame 3, thanks to the Elm method.

But I need someone to list which areas are inaccessible to calling Prof.Elm.

I heard someone mentioning the areas that are out of reach, IIRC, such as: Inside the Elite 4 rooms, Tin Tower Top, Whirl Islands Lugia's cave, but I'm not sure...

Pls. list down the areas which you can't call. And thanks...
 
DarkChaos (HCZ) said:
???
Is the Trainer Profile no longer a good station to rng from? If so my heart is broken (been trying to rng lugia for 1 day using that station by using it to advance my frame by 3 then alternating that the upper-left station ) (Guess I have to try to use pikatimer :/ )


Do that mean also if its not sunday and I alternate from a lower-right station the the upper-left station then the frame can advance more then 1?
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Sorry for the repost but this is important to me and I cant advance in SS.
 
gameman87 said:
I'm afraid thats not possible. There are always 2 or 3 IVs that will be passed down from the parents regardless (although, they DON'T have to be passed down from BOTH parents). My advice is just to get a ditto with Perfect IVs. That can breed with anything and will usually satisfy most of your needs.
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ok, if i get such a ditto will i need to all the RNG stuff because im not very good at it :P and would you have a ditto like this that you would be able to trade me?
 
infergnome said:
ok, if i get such a ditto will i need to all the RNG stuff because im not very good at it :P and would you have a ditto like this that you would be able to trade me?
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Still only 2-3 of the ditto IV could be passed to the offspring.You will still need to rng to get a near-flawless pkmn, although it possible to do it without rng'ing but require luck and alot of time soft-resetting.

You can ask for a Lightning Fusion Ditto in the Simple Question Thread, its modest 31/31/31/31/31/31
 
DarkChaos (HCZ) said:
Still only 2-3 of the ditto IV could be passed to the offspring.You will still need to rng to get a near-flawless pkmn, although it possible to do it without rng'ing but require luck and alot of time soft-resetting.

You can ask for a Lightning Fusion Ditto in the Simple Question Thread, its modest 31/31/31/31/31/31
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kk, once i have the ditto am I going to have to spend hours on my DS trying to breed the perfect poke? :S oh and is it possible for me to influence or find out what IVs the ditto will pass on?
 
infergnome said:
kk, once i have the ditto am I going to have to spend hours on my DS trying to breed the perfect poke? :S oh and is it possible for me to influence or find out what IVs the ditto will pass on?
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HGSS-Power Items influence what IV a pkmn pass down (unless serebii lied again)

Dppt-Nope! Not that I know of
 
Ok,

I am following this guide:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64925

However, I am obviously having some problems, here are the results I am getting, in the format:

Seed
Time
Coin Flip
Actual Delay
Actual Time
Actual Seed

The correct coin flip is HHHTTHHHTH, I successfully hit it on my second try. After I found out I was in the right place, I followed the instructions (happiness checker 37 times, coin flip 3 times), and hatched an egg, however it was not what I had reset for, so I am not sure where I went wrong on this one.

The rest are all 'oh-so-close', any advice on getting it right?

Try #1:

47020268
2:30:13
HTHHTTTHHH
609
2:29:13
4702026B

Try #2

4800026B
0:31
HHHTTHHHTH
609
0:31:13
4800026B

Try #3

4800026B
0:31
HTHHHHHHHH
600
0:31:13
48000262

Try #4

4800026B
0:31
TTHTTHTTTH
606
0:31:13
48000268

Try #5

4800026B
0:31
THTHTHTHHT
602
0:31:13
48000264

Try #6

4800026B
0:31
TTHTTHTTTH
606
0:31:13
48000268
 
OmegaDonut said:
You'll notice that if you plug that spread (31\31\31\30\31\31, Bold) into RNG Reporter's Seed Finder, and check "Open Search" and "Show Offset", you will see that spread shows up on frame 5 on seed C8080a94. That's the Method 1 equivalent. When you select that seed, and show a Method K list with a Bold synchronizer, you'll see it lands on frame 4. C8080a94 is the frame 4 seed they were talking about, and has a delay of 2698 in 2010.
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I am so glad that I done a search for Suicune in here and found this. Has now changed my frame of 382 in to 41 (frame 10 in Method K w/Sync). Wish I had known this before given that the frame advancement in this game isn't exactly the best!
 
Okay, as a follow up from my post above.

Finally, I got one working, saved before I picked up the egg, and then picked it up.

Sure enough, everything was correct, so according to the guide, I did the following:

  1. Turn on your DS and set the date to at least two days after your current date. This will ensure that the Journal comes up.
  2. Reset your game, and then immediately cancel the Journal and collect the egg. Remember to speak to the Daycare man as quickly as you can as the frame starts to increase as soon as the Journal is canceled.
  3. Encounter a wild Pokémon as quickly as possible.
  4. Catch the encountered Pokémon.
  5. Select "Breeding (DPPt)" and then click "Generate" with this initial seed.
  6. Hatch your Pokémon and narrow down its IVs enough to find out which frame you hit in the generated spreads. When looking at spreads in RNG Reporter, remember that "A" means the stat was inherited from the parent that was placed into Daycare first, "B" second.
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To my horror, when the egg hatched, it was not shiny, nor were the statistics what they should be.

What did I do wrong? How do I get back to my shiny egg?

Also, are those steps correct? Here is the guide I was using for the IV breeding:

http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_part3

If this is not the up to date one, could someone link me to the right one?
 
Latitude said:
Okay so, I landed my initial seed, called Elm 28 times accounted 3 extra frames for my target, suicune and roamers entei/raikou to get a frame of 31

I encounter Suicune, not shiny, not bold nature, not 31 spd/spe

What could have happened? :S
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Need some halp.
 
Romsstar said:
Entei and Raikou don't have a consistent +1 advancement you should check their exact advancement with Seed Verifier.
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ARGH, that was my third hitting the seed in all of yesterday, ><

I'm just gonna kill/catch entei and raikou and then get my seed and fail again
 
Weaevil said:
i need to know something. if im at the end of the victory road cave and catch a poke with sweet scent at the entrance to verify my seed and frame, by how many do i advance the frame by:

1)walking out of the cave(assume im facing the exit and just have to step out)
2)running past the NPC (assume he doesnt move)
3)enter the elite four by talking to the guy at the top of the stairs and facing the elite four.

if i know this i can finally RNG entei en raikou. btw for all you EU version peeps out there. i can confirm that Entei is in fact frame 1 and raikou is frame 6
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Can anyone answer me this PLZ! I tried again for entei and was one over! after seed verifying with romsstars program (lined up) followed all the responses to nr 85 as my frame was 86. ran through the E4 and eventually was one over. this can only mean that my starting frame (with NO roamers out) was 2. could this possibly be because i still have suicune out?? or are starting frames completly random?? if so than i need the above information to be able to confirm my initial frame. without that info there is NO reliable way to RNG the roamers before you get to mount silver.
 
Simple yet stupid Egg question in Plat:
Does the positioning of the NPCs affect the frame you got? I mean like they have different frequency of movements when they are saved at different spots.
 
Hi.
I have a really stupid question.

I'm looking through the faq here and learning about target time and synchronize time and it seems like you

1. set the DS to the synchronize time when the external clock hits the minute mark
2. wait for the target time to press continue

I'm confused as to what the external clock needs to be set to.
Basically given the example in the faq, would my DS be at 12:04 and i'd have to wait a minute and a half to get to 12:05.30 (if that was my target time?)
 
Vinceisg0d said:
Okay, as a follow up from my post above.

Finally, I got one working, saved before I picked up the egg, and then picked it up.

Sure enough, everything was correct, so according to the guide, I did the following:

To my horror, when the egg hatched, it was not shiny, nor were the statistics what they should be.

What did I do wrong? How do I get back to my shiny egg?

Also, are those steps correct? Here is the guide I was using for the IV breeding:

http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/dpp_rng_part3

If this is not the up to date one, could someone link me to the right one?
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So, is this right?

1. You hit your seed, and verified you'd got the right one with the coin flip app.
2. You did the remaining necessary flips and taps to get on the right frame.
3. You placed the parents in the daycare and ran around until an egg was generated.
4. You saved in front of the day care man.
5. Just to check, you picked your egg up and hatched it; it was shiny, with the right nature,
6. You reset the game, and followed the steps to calbrate the egg's frame; but when you hatched it, it was no longer shiny.

That shouldn't be possible; if you've saved after the egg is generated, its shininess and nature are locked in. If you've now got a saved file with a non shiny egg waiting to be picked up, there's no way to get the shiny one back.
 
YodaJM said:
I'm in the middle of RNGing Latias. I've got a savestate on my seed 870e0455. Frame 59 is my target frame. I get about a +7 frame advances when talking to Stephen. Using the PHS seed verifier, I advance to frame 52, and I get the Latias matching frame 58. So I talk to Elm one extra time to get to frame 53, and I get the Latias matching frame 61??

Is this just part of the craziness of RNGing Lati@s? And does anyone have any tips or ideas on how to get this crazy Lati?

Thanks!
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Repost.

Any thoughts?
 
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