Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

[heatwaveBAZ]

Hes talking about breeding a shiny using the shiny egg finder
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64925
You have to hit a specific seed and its usually one with a very low amount of taps and flips so you dont have to keep resetting for a low egg frame :)
But did you see my post above? those are usually the reasons why peeple mess up during shiny breeding :x
EDIT:

hmm, i guess i'll attempt that one.. i did a quick view at it and it already looks extremely complicated than the first one i did...

so for the post you had,
no weather condition
and i had 6 pokemon in the party since i did the taps and flips in the area i caught the pokemon in. (btw.. for the flips, am i suppose to get the correct flip results or just flip the coin according to the number of times im suppose to?)
and i bred the pokemon myself so im sure they're not international.. hopefully..
and yes i only went to the happiness checker once.

 

[Silure]

I'm still wondering how do you figure out your delay in the first place. With ID/SID abusing i read the lowest delay you can get while starting your game is 5000, but I been reading and even suggested to by vets here that I should set my delay between 490-999, so not really sure I understand this delay thing >.<

 

[Sekundes]

I just got this seed from RNGReporter. Can someone please explain it to me a bit and hopefully see what I did wrong?? I have killed all my roamers, but my egg ended up not shiny, not the right ability and not the right nature. Neither my American Ditto nor American Growlithe held an everstone. I'm doing this in SoulSilver.

Seed: 501002AC Date: 2010 04 06 Time: 16:46:10 Delay: 674 Frame: 1 PID: 1387660C Nature: Jolly Ability: 0 Gender: F

 

[ΩDonut]

I just got this seed from RNGReporter. Can someone please explain it to me a bit and hopefully see what I did wrong?? I have killed all my roamers, but my egg ended up not shiny, not the right ability and not the right nature. Neither my American Ditto nor American Growlithe held an everstone. I'm doing this in SoulSilver.

Seed: 501002AC Date: 2010 04 06 Time: 16:46:10 Delay: 674 Frame: 1 PID: 1387660C Nature: Jolly Ability: 0 Gender: F

Roamers aren't going to affect the egg RNG. If it was supposed to show up on the first egg, then you just didn't hit your seed. If you did hit your seed, then you failed to notice the Day-Care Man was holding an egg already.

And just in case you did, force egg AR codes will mess this up as well.

That's all the possible ways you can screw it up.

 

[Sekundes]

Roamers aren't going to affect the egg RNG. If it was supposed to show up on the first egg, then you just didn't hit your seed.

And just in case you did, force egg AR codes will mess this up as well.

I don't own an AR. so I assume that frame 1 means egg 1 and I did not need to advance the RNG any? also, is there a way to check to know if I hit my delay properly?

(I'm still confused by the whole explanation given on page one...)

 

[heatwaveBAZ]

how exactly do you "hit" the right seed? i never actually understood this part... that's why the calibration process is still not clear to me... could anyone kindly please explain to me these processes?

 

[COKTAL]

@Sekundes: Did you place a pokemon into the daycare after you hit your seed? If so, that could be what caused it. I know that you had to put the pokemon into the daycare in DPPt for the RNG Reporter to be accurate, so maybe placing a pokemon into the daycare advnaces that RNG.

 

[Sekundes]

@Sekundes: Did you place a pokemon into the daycare after you hit your seed? If so, that could be what caused it. I know that you had to put the pokemon into the daycare in DPPt for the RNG Reporter to be accurate, so maybe placing a pokemon into the daycare advnaces that RNG.

um...no, I put them into daycare when I logged in at 16:46:10 game time, I logged in right at the daycare.

 

[Princess Emily]

Aaacckkk...
RNGing those roaming Lati@s is a pain...
I've been trying to get a spread of 28/21/30/31/31/31 for the Latias on frame 8.
But it seems I always got into a frame that's more than 8.
So I never got that spread (if it wasn't for those annoying NPCs)

We'll I tried another spread with a higher frame.
Although the IVs are a bit smaller... 21/26/20/31/21/31
But this time I successfully got it.

*Sigh* u_u
I still like the first spread.
But I'm already frustrated for 12 hours.

I'll just hope for the Latios Wi-Fi event next time.
(Ugh... NPCs again... -_-)

 

[COKTAL]

Wait, so you entered the game and then put them in, or already had them in the daycare but the egg hadn't been made? If you put them into the daycare, the frame advances. But if they're already there and an egg is there, you will need to get/decline the egg already there from the daycare man and then save on the next one.

 

[Sekundes]

Wait, so you entered the game and then put them in, or already had them in the daycare but the egg hadn't been made? If you put them into the daycare, the frame advances. But if they're already there and an egg is there, you will need to get/decline the egg already there from the daycare man and then save on the next one.

I put them into the daycare and then saved. Would you like me to go, catch another level50+ random pokemon to get my initial seed again, try this one more time writing down step-by-step what I did, and let you know via PM if it didn't turn out right so you can show me step-by-step what I did wrong? This is all very confusing for a first-timer.

 

[gameman87]

I just successfully RNG'ed Palkia in the Sinjoh Ruins. The initial frame I can confirm is 1. For anyone else who wants to do one of them, there is no radio reception there, so you must use phone calls or 128 steps for frame advancement. I would avise picking as low of a frame as possible and advancing to your target by calling Elm.

 

[viperGTS]

I just successfully RNG'ed Palkia in the Sinjoh Ruins. The initial frame I can confirm is 1. For anyone else who wants to do one of them, there is no radio reception there, so you must use phone calls or 128 steps for frame advancement. I would avise picking as low of a frame as possible and advancing to your target by calling Elm.

Thanks for the info; i plan on RNGing something there soon so this is really useful :) thanks again!

 

[Aurica]

Okay, sorry for all the confusion. I'm doing something wrong, and I don't know what.

Hmm.

It seems I am really confused =)

Let me walk you through what I am doing.

My goal: To produce a shiny Meowth, with Technician, female and Jolly with specific IVs.

Here's what I do:

#1 - Open RNG reporter, click on Time Finder
#2 - Click on Shiny Egg tab
#3 - Enter in 2010 / 4 / 6 / 14 in the Year / Month / Date / Seconds tab
#4 - Enter 600 / 611 in Min/Max delay tab
#5 - Enter nature/Ability/Gender/Gender Ratio to the correct values
#6 - Hit Generate
#7 - All of these look somewhat the same, do I just pick one with a delay I think I can hit? My delay / Seconds I did looked like this:

Seconds: All 14
Delay: 611/611/611/603/606/601/604

So, I would want to choose one with a delay of 604ish, so I choose one, and copy the value to clipboard, pasted here, it's:

47020268

The time on it is 2:33:14

From here,

My synchronization time is 2:32 and my reset time is 2:33.

#8 - I turn off my DS, change the DS time to 2:32 the second my external clock hits the minute mark.

#9 - I load into the game, and wait for my clock to go another minute, meaning my DS clock would be at 2:33. The second it hits another minute, I reset, and spam into the game.

#10 - From here, I coin flip 10 times to see what matches up, nothing matched up twice, so I went to the section that helps you find where you ended up.

#11 - I click Seed to Time, and paste the value into Seed (Hex), which is 47020268

#12 - I select the time that is my target time from the list, which in this case would be 2:33:14

#13 - I go to the bottom half, and put a range of delay, -25/+25, and seconds -0/0, and hit generate.

#14 - After the list is generated, I hit search flips and record my coin flips into there.

#15 - It tells me nothing was found, meaning I screwed up somewhere.

So that is the exact process I am doing right now, pretty much motion to motion, can you spot where I err?

 

[Duplicated]

how exactly do you "hit" the right seed? i never actually understood this part... that's why the calibration process is still not clear to me... could anyone kindly please explain to me these processes?

"hit" the right seed means that when you press A on Continue screen, the second and delay at that point is match with what the RNGReporter told you. If you play DPPt, you could check that via coin flip app. If you play HGSS, you can use Romsstar's seed verifier to check whether you actually land on the seed you want or not. His program can be found in his sig.

 

[gameman87]

@Vinceisg0d, if you get no matches, there are two explanations: you extremely off in hitting your delay which is very unlikely, or you timing when entering the game was off by just enough to make you miss the second on your target time. I typically pick a time with a seconds value of 30 and after a brief pause when the DS Clock hits 15, I go ingame.

 

[Aurica]

@Vinceisg0d, if you get no matches, there are two explanations: you extremely off in hitting your delay which is very unlikely, or you timing when entering the game was off by just enough to make you miss the second on your target time. I typically pick a time with a seconds value of 30 and about a split second after the DS Clock hits 15, I go ingame.

What do you mean by a spread? Do you mean the seed I chose after clicking generate in the Shiny Egg tab?

 

[heatwaveBAZ]

"hit" the right seed means that when you press A on Continue screen, the second and delay at that point is match with what the RNGReporter told you. If you play DPPt, you could check that via coin flip app. If you play HGSS, you can use Romsstar's seed verifier to check whether you actually land on the seed you want or not. His program can be found in his sig.

am i suppose to reset twice or something? cuz how do i get the coin flip thing without having to catch the wild pokemon first to figure out my initial seed? im so confused, could you possibly walk me through? :S

 

[Sekundes]

well, found my error, in my dyslexia in the Cerulean Cave I mistook a level 40 for a level 50. anyone know of any areas outside Mount Silver/deep Cerulean Cave where I can find wild 50+ pokemon?

 

[gameman87]

well, found my error, in my dyslexia in the Cerulean Cave I mistook a level 40 for a level 50. anyone know of any areas outside Mount Silver/deep Cerulean Cave where I can find wild 50+ pokemon?

I would suggest calling Elm instead to verify your seed. This works anywhere. All you need is the seed verifier program Romsstar translated (check his thread or the first few posts of this thread to find the link). Trying to catch a wild pokemon to verify your seed is way too cumbersome. But as for your question, the mountainside area in mt. silver works best. In Platinum I could verify my seed with a lvl 47 pidgey, so near 50 is good enough. If you do decide to call elm though, keep in mind that every call advacnes the frame by 1 (it does it ALL time time, regardless of what he talks about) and that you need to have been in kanto, shown elm toegepi and brought pokerus into your game to use it.

 

[DarkChaos (HCZ)]

Consolidation of HGSS info, so people don't have to hunt through the thread.

Advancing the frame

Show                                    Advances                                                Location
Pokemon Music                      1 frame, sometimes none - inconsistent    Upper-left
Pokemon Talk                      14-18 frames, inconsistent                         Upper-right
That Town, These People        3 frames, inconsistent                              Lower-left
Buena's Password                  none                                                       Lower-right
Trainer Profiles                      3 frames, inconsistent                              Lower-left
Pokemon Search Party           1 frame                                                   Lower-right
Silver Drama                         1 frame                                                  Lower-right

???
This means the Trainer Profile isnt a good station to rng from? If so my heart is broken (been trying to rng lugia for 1 day using that station with a frame thats 599) (Guess I have to try to use pikatimer :/ )


Edit-reread
Do that mean also if its not sunday and I alternate from a lower-right station the the upper-left station then the frame can advance more then 1?

 

[Lugia58]

Success! Thanks to everyone who helped me a few days ago; I have just successfully completed my first IV RNG: a perfect ditto from Trophy Garden using RNGReporter and Emloop. :D

 

[mingot]

#13 - I go to the bottom half, and put a range of delay, -25/+25, and seconds -0/0, and hit generate.

You might have missed your seconds ...

0/0 there is probably not good.

finally, if you don't find it, go catch a high level monster and use the stats to seed. This will at least tell you what you DID hit.

 

[pastel]

Catching pokemons in HGSS is the same than DPPt? They advance the same amount of frames? Or that is not known yet?

Still want to be answered.

Also, I just want to be sure that in HGSS while you walk to have 128 steps, turning aroiund does not count as a step, and turning and walking counts as 1 right?

 

[SparkTEHfuze]

If you bump into a wall while walking around, does taht count as a step...?