Pokemon Black and White (SPECULATIONS ALLOWED HERE)

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Notice how it goes

Gen 1: New bugs, two worms
Gen 2: Same bugs
Gen 3: New bugs, another worm
Gen 4: Same bugs
Gen 5: Uhh, you get the point. We get another worm, and it'll be just like any other bug. Well, crappy bug I mean.


On another note, Victini is gonna be broken. Victory Star will pretty much mean all it's stats will raise after a KO. Imagine, star for 5, and theres 5 boosting stats. Victory, because you got a KO
 
Notice how it goes

Gen 1: New bugs, two worms
Gen 2: Same bugs
Gen 3: New bugs, another worm
Gen 4: Same bugs
Gen 5: Uhh, you get the point. We get another worm, and it'll be just like any other bug. Well, crappy bug I mean.


On another note, Victini is gonna be broken. Victory Star will pretty much mean all it's stats will raise after a KO. Imagine, star for 5, and theres 5 boosting stats. Victory, because you got a KO

OK yeah that'd go straight to Ubers.
 
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_and_White_to_feature_only_Gen_V_Pok%C3%A9mon_pre-National_Dex

I'M VERY OK WITH THIS! it will be a new experience! I'm definitely going to avoid spoilers for this game now.

but wait a sec... if there are no pre-gen 5 Pokemon... does that mean the Luvdisc evo is found in the wild, but Luvdisc isn't? can we only get it after we get the National dex (and are able to catch Luvdisk)? becuase if that thing isn't a Luvdisc evo, I'm going to be quite angry...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pqwvp97hl4

It turns out not all the pokemon on the "fake" scan was fake.

the Pokemon in the scan that are also in that video were already known. we have known about them for months.
 
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_and_White_to_feature_only_Gen_V_Pokémon_pre-National_Dex

I'M VERY OK WITH THIS! it will be a new experience! I'm definitely going to avoid spoilers for this game now.

but wait a sec... if there are no pre-gen 5 Pokemon... does that mean the Luvdisc evo is found in the wild, but Luvdisc isn't? can we only get it after we get the National dex (and are able to catch Luvdisk)? becuase if that thing isn't a Luvdisc evo, I'm going to be quite angry...



the Pokemon in the scan that are also in that video were already known. we have known about them for months.
Really? :O I haven't seen or heard of the mole-like pokemon until today.
 
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_and_White_to_feature_only_Gen_V_Pokémon_pre-National_Dex

I'M VERY OK WITH THIS! it will be a new experience! I'm definitely going to avoid spoilers for this game now.

but wait a sec... if there are no pre-gen 5 Pokemon... does that mean the Luvdisc evo is found in the wild, but Luvdisc isn't? can we only get it after we get the National dex (and are able to catch Luvdisk)? becuase if that thing isn't a Luvdisc evo, I'm going to be quite angry...



the Pokemon in the scan that are also in that video were already known. we have known about them for months.

>:O

What? Why won't they put any other pokemon othe rthan new ones in? That's retarded and there's no reason for it! The game will be awfully limited until you get the national dex....

Well, I now feel dissapointed, even though it would be more interesting to avoid Golbat every two and a half seconds.
 
>:O

What? Why won't they put any other pokemon othe rthan new ones in? That's retarded and there's no reason for it! The game will be awfully limited until you get the national dex....

Well, I now feel dissapointed, even though it would be more interesting to avoid Golbat every two and a half seconds.

The very same link said:
In the update, Masuda said that his intention was to give players both new and veteran an equally new experience, akin to Pokémon Red and Green/Blue Versions back in Generation I.

This same line of thought seems to have been used when the decision was made to reset the route numbers back from route one, and placing Isshu in a remote location from the rest of the Pokémon world.

And lol Masuda talked about the MAIN game, which means until the E4. That means we'll have a ~150 regional Dex all with new pokémon. Any old one (and maybe a few oddballs, as new legendaries and pokémon like Mamanbou) will be on the National Dex only, and to be found/caught/received(?) only after you beat the E4.


And my bet is 151 regional pokémon, 13 evolutions, 3 random shit like Rotom and 6 post-E4 legendaries, for a grand total of 173 new pokémon, 666 nationally ~__~
 
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_and_White_to_feature_only_Gen_V_Pokémon_pre-National_Dex

I'M VERY OK WITH THIS! it will be a new experience! I'm definitely going to avoid spoilers for this game now.

but wait a sec... if there are no pre-gen 5 Pokemon... does that mean the Luvdisc evo is found in the wild, but Luvdisc isn't? can we only get it after we get the National dex (and are able to catch Luvdisk)? becuase if that thing isn't a Luvdisc evo, I'm going to be quite angry...

Interesting, I would have liked if they included a few of the obvious pre-national dex Pokemon (Magikarp, Abra, Machop, Zubat etc) and tossed in a couple random gen2/3/4 lines just for kicks. But I'm not gonna complain. :) This better mean we get a whole shitload of new Pokemon! Nothings worse than a bare pokedex (-cough- DP and it's 2 fire types).

I really hope luvmambo is still a Luvdisc evolution... I guess they'll any evos of past pokemon national dex only.
 
And lol Masuda talked about the MAIN game, which means until the E4. That means we'll have a ~150 regional Dex all with new pokémon. Any old one (and maybe a few oddballs, as new legendaries and pokémon like Mamanbou) will be on the National Dex only, and to be found/caught/received(?) only after you beat the E4.


And my bet is 151 regional pokémon, 13 evolutions, 3 random shit like Rotom and 6 post-E4 legendaries, for a grand total of 173 new pokémon, 666 nationally ~__~

hahahaha nice catch/prediction
 
The game will be awfully limited until you get the national dex....

um... no it won't. where did you get that idea? chances are, we're going to have at least 150 new Pokemon which is more than enough to use until after the national dex. having old Pokemon defeats the whole "new experience" thing they were going for.

also, by the way, I'm pretty sure this means that Shikijika (the Deer Pokemon) is NOT a Stantler Prevo, as I assume it would be found early in the game, and having it evolve into Stantler would require it to be in the regional dex. same goes for the Swan being a related to the Wingull line.
 
Finally, a completely unique regional dex! :D I got tired after DPP of it, and it was absolutely dreadful in HGSS. After seeing the deer and the swan more, I'm fairly confident they aren't related to any previous Pokemon, anyway. They could treat Luvdisc like a "baby" Pokemon and allow you to capture its evolution, but you'd have to breed, trade, or catch it later.
 
Anyone worried that Mamanbo won't be a luvdisc evo think of this:

Electivire was teased in a commercial, detailed in CoroCoro for its Motor Drive Ability and to showcase Giga Impact, and had an episode in the anime before DP was even released.
And it wasn't available until the National Dex.

Also~
It's completely possible to "limit" the dex to new Pokemon, but still have older Pokemon show up.
They could make them rare.
They could put them in, for example, the Safari Zone (Hoenn did this, by the way; nothing in there could be found elsewhere in the region except Oddsih, Gloom, and Geodude).

So let's say the Pokedex is 150 strong, they could easily have 10 older Pokemon show up and majority is still new and exciting.
 
Except in the interview he said there wouldn't be any old pokemon. Not 10, not a few, not hard to find, none. If you're just suggesting how to keep it fresh but throw in old stuff, why do that instead of their decision? I'm not seeing what you're trying to get at.
 
We know we can transfer old Pokemon and that evos of old Pokemon may be available in national dex.
I'm happy with the decision to populate the entire pre-E4 game with new Pokemon.
The have said this from the beginning, that Isshu is far away and has few old Pokemon.
 
Finally, a completely unique regional dex! :D I got tired after DPP of it, and it was absolutely dreadful in HGSS. After seeing the deer and the swan more, I'm fairly confident they aren't related to any previous Pokemon, anyway. They could treat Luvdisc like a "baby" Pokemon and allow you to capture its evolution, but you'd have to breed, trade, or catch it later.
Say good bye to Zubats and Tentacool finally after meeting them in 4 generations? hahahaha~!
 
On another note, Victini is gonna be broken. Victory Star will pretty much mean all it's stats will raise after a KO. Imagine, star for 5, and theres 5 boosting stats. Victory, because you got a KO
Sorry I haven't heard of this guy yet... Can someone please post a pic?

On subject yeah for new pokedex!! Gamefreak is being original finally!
 
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