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Yeah. Way before that. I'm not going to be surprised at all if they're fake. :/

Same here. But I'm not going to be surprised if they're real either.
People are trying to use the screen shot of Pokabu's evo saying Mijumaru's name as an arguing point. Has anyone considered. that the evos may be real but the screen shot is fake?
 
It's because they either lying through their ass or they're trying to protect their 'insider" from being fired or some shit. Personally I say website owners like Serebii or Pokexperto should just post their "sources" and be done with it. That insider should have known the dangers of spilling the beans and be ready for it.

If they say who their source is, there's no way that person will ever leak them anything again.
 
Serebii's lying about having a source. Its a bluff obviously. They wouldn't claim that there is no proof AND having a source.

Spanish site post that they are real, says he has inside information.
Pokebeach questions him, tries to validate, decides to believe him.
Serebii, always wanted to be ontop of things like this, jumps in like he always does and did during the Shaymin incident.
 
Serebii's lying about having a source. Its a bluff obviously. They wouldn't claim that there is no proof AND having a source.

Spanish site post that they are real, says he has inside information.
Pokebeach questions him, tries to validate, decides to believe him.
Serebii, always wanted to be ontop of things like this, jumps in like he always does and did during the Shaymin incident.



Serebii hasn't been this vague and crappy since their pages on Red and Blue.
Unless we count their forums.
 
People are trying to use the screen shot of Pokabu's evo saying Mijumaru's name as an arguing point. Has anyone considered. that the evos may be real but the screen shot is fake?

The issue there is that the screen shot comes from the alleged source. Its also questionable that the source posted separate types from those that came with the images.

Can someone explain what is the edge of the image that is outside of the borders on Smugleaf's image? There's something that's JUST been chipped out, and it isn't Smugleaf because the colours don't match up.
 
The issue there is that the screen shot comes from the alleged source. Its also questionable that the source posted separate types from those that came with the images.

Can someone explain what is the edge of the image that is outside of the borders on Smugleaf's image? There's something that's JUST been chipped out, and it isn't Smugleaf because the colours don't match up.


Based on the whole Serebeach fiasco, I dont think we can label any source as aleged or legit.

Also, we know that Smugleaf1 and Wotter1 are real.
 
Yeah, I know that, but on the evolutions of Smugleaf, there's something that was cut out of their picture by the weird plastic frame. What is it?

Oh, and in the midst of all this controsversy, I got a pretty cool idea from a pokemon episode today.
A raging mad, furious, irretable Ursaring ran and fell into a hot spring, and a guy said that it can relax and change the nature of violent pokemon. Well, why not have something that allows you to change your pokemon natures? This would make breeding SOOO much easier, and let's be honest, with all the things that go into account, its just damn near impossible to breed that SPECIFIC pokemon you want, right nature, right EV, shiny or no, right gender, right moves, the possibility of getting a perfect bread is impossible.
 
Yeah, I know that, but on the evolutions of Smugleaf, there's something that was cut out of their picture by the weird plastic frame. What is it?

Oh, and in the midst of all this controsversy, I got a pretty cool idea from a pokemon episode today.
A raging mad, furious, irretable Ursaring ran and fell into a hot spring, and a guy said that it can relax and change the nature of violent pokemon. Well, why not have something that allows you to change your pokemon natures? This would make breeding SOOO much easier, and let's be honest, with all the things that go into account, its just damn near impossible to breed that SPECIFIC pokemon you want, right nature, right EV, shiny or no, right gender, right moves, the possibility of getting a perfect bread is impossible.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52180

Pokemon Sunday takes too long.
 
To be fair, with simple RNG you can control nature, ability and shiny. With complex RNG you can control IVs as well.

That being said, a hot spring that would change nature would be a neat addition and would cut down on frustration when you don't want to/can't RNG.
 
Guys, a gamedesigner shouldn't expect their user to rely on exploits like RNG. The designer wants them to use things that they designed. Its like if Link left out a Navi feature because "Oh they can just go to the internet and figure it out"
 
Considering the starter evos are true, I don't think they are that bad. Sure, they don't resemble the first forms. But they are nice by themselves. When I first saw the starters I hated them all (especially Mijumaru), now I'm used to them, this will happen to the evos too. I hope...

Btw,
Isn't the Dark type "Fighting Dirty" in Japan?

I'd say that Pokabu evo is Fire/Dark and not Fire/Fighting. (Well, that's what I want..)
And if the Otter evo is Water/Fighting, then Smugleaf's would be Grass/Psychic to complete the chain.

Hmm.. you know what would be funny?
If these evos are false and the actual evos turn out to be even uglier.
 
When I first seen the 1st evo starters I did not like the Grass one (cant remember any of their names) but I liked the other two, but now I like (Ill give it a shot...) Tsutjas final evo while I dislike the other two.

But, I think "Smugleafs" final evo is the true evo but not the other two, not because I dont like them, but if you see the background the plastic thing is not around him but it is the other two. Of course it could be the other way around with the Fire / Water evos being real but meh.
 
Considering the starter evos are true, I don't think they are that bad. Sure, they don't resemble the first forms. But they are nice by themselves. When I first saw the starters I hated them all (especially Mijumaru), now I'm used to them, this will happen to the evos too. I hope...

Btw,
Isn't the Dark type "Fighting Dirty" in Japan?

I'd say that Pokabu evo is Fire/Dark and not Fire/Fighting. (Well, that's what I want..)
And if the Otter evo is Water/Fighting, then Smugleaf's would be Grass/Psychic to complete the chain.

Hmm.. you know what would be funny?
If these evos are false and the actual evos turn out to be even uglier.
I thought the same thing with grass/psychic water/fighting and fire/dark. It'd work. I don't mind the Otter evolution but I absolutly despise the Pokabu evolutions. Keep it in all fours please. And the snake just doesn't look like a pokemon. His whole line is weird.

I also agree with you that I hated all the starters when they came out (especially the otter) except Pokabu which is why im praying these things are fake.
 
I think you are all crazy, Iloved all the starters except the otter when they first came out! If they are faked, i am definitely getting smugleaf.
 
I don't like any of the stage 1 starters, really. I like otters, though, so I'll probably go with water. I'm just reaaaaally hoping that those are fake because Miju3 doesn't even look like an otter.

I'm all for a Water/Fighting otter, though. Just not that one. I can't see a quadrupedal Fighting-type, really. And it makes no sense when stage 1 + 2 are bipedal. >.>

I don't like Pokabu, nor his prospective evos. I'd probably go with Smugleaf if those were real.
 
I'm hoping that Tsutaja's Evo is fake, as the Dragon fake looked so pimp, and was hoping for something similar... either way, I've picked it already.
 
I can tell u its true xd
I know melkor (the webmaster) for a very long time, and he also said the names 2 weeks before everybody. I know starters are real 100%.
 
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