This AR code is done and has been done. The MTIVRNG Check code. But if you're doing non-C-Gear you really don't need it. You'll hit your seed almost 100% of the time. And you shouldn't be using an Action Replay with non-C-Gear anyways.
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This AR code is done and has been done. The MTIVRNG Check code. But if you're doing non-C-Gear you really don't need it. You'll hit your seed almost 100% of the time. And you shouldn't be using an Action Replay with non-C-Gear anyways.
Another AR code. It works differently. It'll be useful for finding parameters for ARs and the code will be a template for grabbing other info as well. OD is working on it.
I think you should wait until you actually get the game before you start asking all of these questions. It would help if you actually knew what High-Link or even the C-Gear is. C-Gear abuse and non-C-Gear abuse are both the same thing, except C-Gear abuse requires a delay to be hit. Non-C-Gear only requires a time to soft reset at.
There's not pros and cons for each type of abuse. Non-C-Gear is easier. That's it. You have to turn on your C-Gear to enter High-Link, so High-Link mons will have to be abused with C-Gear abuse.
What you and many other EMULATOR users fail to realize is that DS users can't use many emulator related codes. The codes you are using cause the DS screen to go white when you start the AR/game. Hence why Omega himself said there is no way to check a seed when using non C-gear seeds.
Either way, this code is being worked on as we speak, (FOR DS USERS), and may even be available for DS users when the English version comes out.
There are some major differences to using C-gear abuse verses non C-gear abuse. For C-gear there are many more seeds than non C-gear.
However, non C-gear seeds are SO MUCH EASIER!!! C-gear abuse is basically a vamped up version of how 4th gen RNG abuse works. But in B/W you will be able to hit both even and odd delays which means it is twice as difficult to hit your delay as it was for 4th gen. Other than that, C-gear abuse is identical to 4th gen, you will use 2 timers and all.
Non C-gear abuse only requires that you hit the second and not part of a second like C-gear abuse. Other than that, you will need to wait to get the games and see how they both work, but what I told you is the basics of the pros and cons of C-gear and non C-gear abuse.
This is what I wanted to know. Thanks.
I'll read through this all when I get a chance, but have we figured out how to RNG for ID/SID in B/W? If so, I'll probably do that with Black when I get them on Sunday.
For any RNGing on B\W (aside from C-Gear seeds), you need to know your DS parameters, and for that, you need to have progressed far enough in the game to catch a Pokemon and get its exact IVs to use with RNG Reporter's DS parameter search.
Or you can borrow someone else's game and find your DS parameters using that, assuming they've progressed far enough in the game.
Once you get those, yes we can RNG ID\SID.
Hmm, so the RNG varies with the DS the game is being played on, not just the date/time of that DS? Interesting...
I should be able to do that by borrowing someone's game who's already able to catch Pokémon and going into a Wi-Fi battle with the auto-level feature to get exact IVs.
Thanks for the reply.
Auto-Lvl100 doesn't exist anymore in B/W.
By the way, if I use an *cough* Action Replay to determine the IV's of my starter, that would also work for finding my DS parameters, right?
And I have two DSs, one DS Lite and a DSi and I pre-ordered both
Black and White... will I have to find my parameters for each version on
each DS? Like, will I have to "calibrate" FOUR TIMES? :(
That would work. You'd have to start the game, go through the beginning intro and whatnot, then save right in front of where you get your starters. Then you'd soft reset (without your AR), recording the time and date on your DS clock down to the second when you soft reset, get your starter, save, put your AR in then check the IVs. You'd put all of that into the DS parameters search.
And yes, you would have to calibrate four times. It's really simple, but I'd write down the parameters for each game on each DS so you don't have to do it over.
Damn.
Oh well, I'll just play Black on my DS Lite and White on my DSi only, this way I'll only have to calibrate twice.
How long does one calibration process take approximately?
I just realized that I have to go through TWO battles before I can save after I picked up my starter. Grrrr.
Calibration is easy. It takes like 2 minutes. And I don't think we can yet predict non-C-Gear seeds for the DSi, as a workable parameter range has yet to be found.
Does sweet scenting advance the frame, like in 4th gen. If so by how many frames?
When you're looking for your DS Parameters, do you choose "Custom" if you're using the old school DS? (Grey color/thicker than the newer ones)
Do I need to RNG for SID/ID to get good shiny spreads like in Gen 4? Or does every ID/SID have a relatively low frame near flawless shiny spread.
Also, tell me if I'm somewhat on the right track with the B/W RNG. I'm planning to rush through the game, grab my legends and then RNG for ID/SID.
So pretty much, I hit my delay, turn on C-Gear and then wait a certain amount of seconds until the C-Gear advances the frame to my target IV frame. Then I use sweet scent/talk to the legendary? Or no.
If not, is there going to be a finalized guide/video (bearsfan's vid was amazing for HGSS) released sometime around the US launch of B/W?
Thanks!!
Do I need to RNG for SID/ID to get good shiny spreads like in Gen 4? Or does every ID/SID have a relatively low frame near flawless shiny spread.
Also, tell me if I'm somewhat on the right track with the B/W RNG. I'm planning to rush through the game, grab my legends and then RNG for ID/SID.
So pretty much, I hit my delay, turn on C-Gear and then wait a certain amount of seconds until the C-Gear advances the frame to my target IV frame. Then I use sweet scent/talk to the legendary? Or no.
If not, is there going to be a finalized guide/video (bearsfan's vid was amazing for HGSS) released sometime around the US launch of B/W?
Thanks!!
I haven't kept up with the DS parameters as I can't even get mine to work with my DS lite. So I can't answer that part.
With this Gen PID and IV's are no longer connected. So you can have a shiny, any nature with any IV's. Thing is though, sometimes it's hard to find a PID that has a lower frame-esc thing. They aren't really "frames" but more or less considered that way.. As when I did my most recent 5th Gen RNG. The closest shiny PID was like the 4,000 PIDs from the start.
The C-gear doesn't advance frames for you, only PIDs. You have to manually advance the frames yourself by either depositing Pokes from your party to your PC. Which is by 7.
Or walk 128 steps with x amount of Pokemon. X being how many you have in your party, which is also the frame rate.
There is already a basic video of RNG in 5th gen, but there isn't any voice to it. I forget who put it up, but if you search around this thread, I'm sure you could find it.
Well. Sort of. PID is based upon when you soft reset or start the game, as it's taken from your non-c-gear seed. Where as IV's are taken from the non-c-gear or the C-gear seed.
PID is basically on frames, but in a different way.
Basically there is a list generated and NPC's, saving, walking through grass, I'm not sure about sweet scenting, all advance the PID's value. And as it advances it just goes down the list to the next PID.
I'm pretty sure there is, with non-c-gear it'd be rather easy, but you'd have no way to tell where you are at with your PID. Along with you'd also have to figure out what your DS parameters are.
You can C-gear as well, but you'd prolly have to do more work to figure it out, as you'll have to catch a Pokemon be able to check it's Iv's put it into RNG reporter, and go from there.
...damn. So if I'm not using an AR (nor do I want anyone else to use it for me), there's no way for me to find my DS's parameters, and therefore no way to RNG for my ID/SID, until I or someone whose game I can borrow is considerably far in the game (far enough to have access to higher-level Pokémon, a good amount of Rare Candies, and possibly vitamins)?
Just trade the Pokémon to someone who can check IVs. Problem solved.
Woah, looks like breeding for Shinys or just Pokémon with the right
Nature + Ability (Dream World!) + Gender ) seems to be pretty hard in this
generation, with the NPC's advancing the PID frame...
Does that mean that a parent with the desired nature + Everstone will be kind
of necessary if I don't want to challenge my luck too much? I mean, I'll always
have full control over the IV's with my Non-C-Gear Seed, but the Nature,
Ability and all that seems to be kind of... *drum solo* RANDOM in this generation.
One last question: Will we be able to control which IV's will be passed to the
egg from which parent as well? I don't want to hatch my Pokémon just to
find out that it has the 5 IV's in Speed that its father had... :/
Nature + Ability (Dream World!) + Gender ) seems to be pretty hard in this
generation, with the NPC's advancing the PID frame...
Does that mean that a parent with the desired nature + Everstone will be kind
of necessary if I don't want to challenge my luck too much? I mean, I'll always
have full control over the IV's with my Non-C-Gear Seed, but the Nature,
Ability and all that seems to be kind of... *drum solo* RANDOM in this generation.
One last question: Will we be able to control which IV's will be passed to the
egg from which parent as well? I don't want to hatch my Pokémon just to
find out that it has the 5 IV's in Speed that its father had... :/
Parent's passed Iv's are attached to the PID part of the abuse.
It's super easy you just have to be rather quick in picking the egg up.
So in essence, could I catch a lvl 2 Pokemon at the start of the game, record the time I caught it, ask for an IV check and RNG for my ID/SID right away?
So we will be able to RNG for the full Pokémon with IV's, passed IV's, Nature,
Ability, Gender and Shinyness just like in Gen 4? :)
Is your Pokémon generated right when you talk to the Daycare man,
and does it still frezze the NPC's in place if you talk to him?