Exploud has Soundproof too, as well as reasonable bulk, but you know... its Exploud.
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1. While Exploud does have inferior Sp. Def, it has ~200 more HP than Mr. Mime and only 9 less base Sp. Atk, so its about even IMO. The Speed isn't important when you're countering Yanmega.
2. Even if the Yanmega is Modest, Electrode is outsped after one Speed Boost.
Why no Entei?
We're talking about the merits of Soundproof pokes
Let me first say this is a great list, and very very useful. A lot of these are minor nitpicks, the ones I consider more important are in bold:
Quiver Dancers - Lilligant does not get Sleep Talk; Typhlosion has base 100 speed while Lilligant has base 90, so Scarf Typhlosion outspeeds +1 Lilligant
Sharpedo - of which should be which; too should be to
Galvantula - allusion should be illusion
Rain - you should probably mention Altaria here since you include it in the list of Cloud 9-er's in other places.
Entei - make should be making
Swellow - is should be it
SmashPass - as long your opponent should be as long as your opponent
Typhlosion - Petaya Berry is not released in Gen 5
Tangela - obvious should be obviously
Ferroseed - sports the title as the should be sports the title of
Claydol - whom should be who or which
Umbreon - outlcassed should be outclassed; gist is the wrong word here, something like "the means for killing Umbreon are strong physical fighting or bug attacks" would make more sense
Golduck - either against should be for or countering should be deleted
Gligar - You say here that Gligar will always come out on top against Durant, while in the Durant entry you say Gligar can tank a hit from Durant and roost off the damage but cannot do much back to it and will be in trouble if Durant sets up more than one hone claws. (This one may just be my own personal confusion)
Once again, this is not an attack on you or your list (which is great and definitely a great starting point for peopling getting into the tier). Feel free to ignore any and all of these if you don't think they're important, and apologies for going all grammer nazi on you. A typo or two in such a comprehensive list is almost unavoidable, and I'm only pointing them out, not criticizing you for them.
Yes Virizion, it does get Stone Edge
I feel like a defensive core of Tangela and Slowking could work pretty well. They have decent type synergy (although they're both weak to bug, so something should be done about that) and they both have Regenerator, meaning you can switch between the two endlessly, even with hazards.
Slowking isn't great as a special wall because he's weak to the best special attackers in the tier. Tangela and Audino would work though.
You're welcome, glad I could help.
I understand this. The reason I brought Altaria up was because it seemed Xephyr forgot about it in the rain entry while explaining why it was a poor choice for a Cloud 9 user against Hail in the Hail Entry.
I use guts orb hariyama on a TR team, but I'm done with TR now.
It's more useful as a special sponge though. It's one weakness, fighting, comes from physical attackers more often than special attackers.
Also, Crawdaunt really needs to be added to the OP. I use one on my team, and with two Dragon Dances it wrecks shit up, and after three it almost guarantees game. Cress can't touch it, and Crawdaunt laughs in its face as it sets up. It also has enough natural bulk to survive Entei's ExtremeSpeed. It's only problem are bulky grass types, but that's easily covered by another team slot.
When TR is up he's not, over 420 HP
and a shitload of attack after guts.
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