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I used a really good Sun / Trick Room team that peaked me on PO at #1 and countered and/or just straight outplayed other teams.

It was fun.
 
If you can fit it and it doesn't affect type coverage much, it is great to have a backup plan.
 
Age of Kings said:
I was spectating some battles on the PO server and I'm wondering...why is Castform seemingly common? It's on winning teams as well, so it's not like a complete troll Pokemon. From what I gather, Forecast + Weather Ball help it come out on top when it comes to weather wars, but is it worth using due to its low base stats?
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don't worry I retired my castform TR jynx team, you should stop seeing castform soon.
 
Standard Hail Unfavourable meta, full of redundancy, frail pokémon: don't bother.
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I'm actually having a lot of success with hail. Nearly any reasonable team can be successful if you know what you're doing.

Then again I suppose people are here asking questions because they don't know what to do....eh.

Do we have a B/W speed tier with and without scarf?
 
Is there a threatlist anywhere, or a list with pokés who are good in doubles? Would be nice to build a solid team, but then you first need to know what to encounter most of the times:P
 
Anyone know when they announced the dates and locations in Europe? They told me a long time that would be more tournaments in Europe before (in April and May).
 
The latias is looking standard, Though I rather 252 sp.atk, 252 speed as you lose out to EVERY dragon.,but heres 1 other thing, don't run rain dance on anybody of you already have toed. Imo its stupid. Wasting a precious spot for a pretty useless move is well useless. Keep fake out on toxicroak, and if ya really want rain up so badly its simple Don't let politoed die.
 
soul_survivor said:
don't run rain dance on anybody of you already have toed. Imo its stupid. Wasting a precious spot for a pretty useless move is well useless... and if ya really want rain up so badly its simple Don't let politoed die.
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Having Rain Dance on the team does have its uses even if you already have Politoed. The three ways of it working out I can think of are:

1. Predicting an opponent switch to a weather changer, and using Rain Dance to keep your weather.

2. Surprise factor to those who let their guard down after defeating Politoed and getting rid of the rain.

3. So you don't have to actually bring Politoed to the battle, but still have a way to set up the rain. For those times where Politoed just feels like it would be dead weight in the battle aside from setting up the rain.

As zerowing said earlier, it doesn't really hurt to have it on the team if you have move space for it, as it can keep your options open during a battle.

Then again, another way of looking at this is that if you team is so dependant on having the rain that you need Rain Dance user as well as a DrizzleToed on the same team, there may be other more serious issues to your team than using up a moveslot for something like Rain Dance.
 
Thundurus spamming Prioriraindance has saved my RD teams countless times. Its pretty easy to overwrite Drizzle.
 
How does Gyarados plays in rain? I thought about some intimidate support and gyara was the first to come in mind.

And how is kingdra in doubles? and metagross in the rain (losing it's fire weakness)?

Is hitmontop, as a staple pokémon on teams, worth it for an anti-meta rain?

and what about weavile?

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I'm figuring out how to counter the biggest nemesis a(n) (anti-metagame) rain team
 
Otto said:
How does Gyarados plays in rain? I thought about some intimidate support and gyara was the first to come in mind. Gyrados is a strong pokemon, just like in singles, but it's Electric weakness can be a problem. If your going to use it, use it as support, and give it a Wacan Berry.

And how is kingdra in doubles? and metagross in the rain (losing it's fire weakness)? Kingdra and Metagross are both staple Rain pokemon, and very good strong doubles pokemon. You'll see them a lot in VGC

Is hitmontop, as a staple pokémon on teams, worth it for an anti-meta rain?
Hitmontop can go on any team well, although I'm not sure how it will counter rain exactly. Maybe I could have some more set details?

and what about weavile? Weavile's the same as Hitmontop, good fake out, but how does it counter rain?

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I'm figuring out how to counter the biggest nemesis a(n) (anti-metagame) rain team
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Not quite sure if I answered your questions, but I hope this helps.
 
Noxe said:
Sounds like u may have misunderstood him. I think what he meant is antimeta+rain.
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yes, that is what I meant:)

also, I have enormous problems with opponent's weather changers. How to play around this or is there a good counter for a rainteam against opponents weather changers?
 
vgc games don't take very long; vgc games with rain up take even shorter

damp rock is unnecessary just get the rain up

if I could make a successful rain team ever (I can't) then i probably wouldn't run Politoed because I've never seen anyone do anything with it where it isn't dead weight.


against other weather setters you can do a few things:

1) make your weather setter slow, and get the weather out after your opponent's

2) set your own weather up again via Rain Dance, Sandstorm, Sunny Day, or Hail

3) put your weather setter third in your party and switch it in

4) switch it out and switch it in
 
Lol that's the spread I used on my worlds Krookodile. I can't remember; depends on which nature you use but it isn't too many even with adamant. You could always work it out on PO.
 
Zog said:
Lol that's the spread I used on my worlds Krookodile. I can't remember; depends on which nature you use but it isn't too many even with adamant. You could always work it out on PO.
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It is adamant, and I did make a ev spread about a week ago on PO but forgot XD, but I won't be able to go onto PO till the 14th(my life is that trollish), and serebiis iv caculator hasn't been working for me recently. Thats pretty much why I wanted to know if anyone else knew. If im correct bluecookies ran a hydreigon with 116 speed, so err krook and hydrei are near in speed. So im guessing in that range, but want to know 100% b4 continuing
 
Misdreavus said:
With a Modest Politoed (252 HP, 252 SpA, 4 SpD; 31 Speed IV and no Speed-reducing item), how useful is Encore really? He hits 90 Speed, so he's slower than most non-TR Pokémon, and will be slower than any of your opponent's TR Pokémon under TR (so you can't encore Trick Room). You can force a switch by Encoring Fake Out on turn 1, but other than that, it seems like it is VERY dependent upon good prediction.
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Encore imo is only useful on toed when your running Tailwind or thunder wave support, because everyone stalls with protect, and wallah you caught em off guard with an encore. Though specifically in tw he makes a good partner with tornadus(acrobatics variant still,Hurricane is too reliant on rain), As what ever resist toeds water attacks get hit with acrobatics, and whatever resist flying namely rock gets hit by water, but in your case just run another move. Politied doesn't have much options anyway. Try something like hypnosis, or even swagger.
 
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