Ah, so Grass Gem Power Whip Lickilicky is the set to stop Gorebyss.
Are we seriously considering stuff like this?
Are we seriously considering stuff like this?
. Let's take a common example, Gorebyss matchup against a Rock-type. This is common since Gorebyss is usually paired with normal or flying pokemon like Swellow which can just u-turn. After that, you have to face Gorebyss with your regirock, and you have 2 options, T-Wave/Hit it or Switch Out.
At first I didn't though gorebyss was broken. It was pretty powerful yeah, but it could be stopped too. However, after seeing how the metagame is going, I would say Gorebyss is broken. The impact gorebyss makes in the metagame is really huge. Let's take a common example, Gorebyss matchup against a Rock-type. This is common since Gorebyss is usually paired with normal or flying pokemon like Swellow which can just u-turn. After that, you have to face Gorebyss with your regirock, and you have 2 options, T-Wave/Hit it or Switch Out. If you stay in, you may loose your Normal counter due to Surf or even worse, face a shitty Sub Gorebyss, whereas if you try to switch out you realize how difficult is to switch into a probable Surf or a Shell Smash which are the two things your opponent can do. So after that, you would have probably a) lose your swellow counter or b) facing a +2 gorebyss. So basically, you are screwed. In this situation, the only mon that stand a chance of switching in is scarf jynx or something like Regice (and if there are hazards Regice will have a hard time). The problem of how bad are (in general) the posible scarvers with a speed over 85 base in NU makes Gorebyss even more tough to face. And some faster pokemon like Haunter (outspeed with scarf) simply dies if they switch into Surf.
For a situation like that, I'd just attack Gorebyss with Regirock. I wouldn't mind if Regirock dies to Surf before a Shell Smash. So that way, I can bring in a faster Pokemon to try and revenge kill. Or at least, put some offensive pressure to my opponent. You just need to remember that Shell Smash also takes away both defenses to the point where Gorebyss is fragile. If it has White Herb, well, it lacks the raw power without Life Orb. It may miss out some KOs. Although, I'm not too sure about that. It's just not worth losing a scarfer if you mispredict when you have a Regirock alive. It's just worth more by saccing Regirock as long it got Stealth Rock up. As for the bird and Gorebyss combo, I'd definitely suggest Choice Scarf Timid Rotom-S since they are both weak to Thunderbolt. It has the speed base of 86, so Braviary can't outspeed Rotom-S with Choice Scarf. It also outspeeds +2 Timid Gorebyss by one speed point. If you fear about losing Regirock, because Stealth Rock isn't up or it's your only Swellow counter. Sac something else, so you can safely bring in your scarfer. I wouldn't say you would be screwed. It's all about playing around it.
But that's what I meant :/
If you let regirock die, swellow would probably (unless you have a second counter) sweep free.
If you switch to something to sac, gorebyss may predict that and boost.
And I also said that another problem is that most possible scarvers who outspeed gorebyss are either too bad or weak to SR (like Rotom or Jynx). So basically your post says the same as mine (moreless). And I know dealing with gorebyss is not impossible but is indeed really troublesome as we all know.
With Stealth Rock up, Swellow probably won't last that long thanks to Brave Bird recoil and status for Guts boost.