Serious Relationships and Sex Ed Thread

It is easy to come up with reasons that characterize the latter three as what Western society would consider extreme sexual deviancy: consent cannot be obtained in the cases of pedophilia and bestiality, and incest carries certain health risks for any child that happens to produced.

Minor point - incest isn't prohibited because of any genetic issues potentially affecting children.

It's because families have internal power dynamics that make it likely that any sexual activity is not truly consensual, as one party frequently has a degree of influence over the other party that calls consent into question.

It's why incest is still frowned upon when the participants are sterile, or use contraception - it's seen as often or always intrinsically exploitative.
 
Boomlawyered? Quite right, MrIndigo.

its just that when i hear the term "sexual deviant", what comes to mind is on the extreme end of that term.

To some poor, misguided souls, same-sex sexual acts are considered extreme. Like others have said before, you'd do yourself a favor by not giving a single fuck what those people think of you.
 
Although someone who enjoys sexual acts with the same sex can also be considered a sexual deviant, and I am not saying that I am such a person, homosexuality was one of the first things I eliminated. I dont think she meant that at all.

Anyways, Adam seeing as you are like the 3rd person to tell me to just not bother trying to figure out exactly what was meant when I was called a sexual deviant, I'll just throw all my fucks out on this one and move on
 
bdsm can be kinda hot I reckon

soo I was out at a gay club last night as per usual and one of my girl friends was completely fucked and in the toilet probably hurling some vomit, and I was just sitting outside waiting for her with another friend. and for once someone who I find physically attractive approached me (I have really high standards you see) and we started talking and everything. He'd get really close and when he'd talk in my ears hed have like his lips on my cheeks and ears and shit. it was weird cos I didn't even have to get close to him to talk to him at all. we left 10-20 minutes afterwards to go to another club.

and then my friend tells me he was flirting with me.

I didn't even realise.

WHY AM I SO BAD AT THIS.

he was shirtless and was so fit and was pretty sober. i did get his name btw but I completely forgot it, fail whale.

getting deja vu typing up this post cos i'm pretty sure this entire situation has happened before.
 
how did it never cross your mind that he was flirting

HE WAS SHIRTLESS GRAZING YOUR CHEEK WITH HIS LIPS

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how did it never cross your mind that he was flirting

HE WAS SHIRTLESS GRAZING YOUR CHEEK WITH HIS LIPS

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jesus. fucking. christ. i wanna smack you the FUCK up junior :cloud: :kongler:

youre SO god damn obliv
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I think I knew, I mean I asked my friend if it was flirting so I had the thought at the back of my mind, but I wasn't so sure. like I said, I'm SO bad at this.

plus I don't think I'd even know what to do even if I was to flirt back :(
 
ok i take what i said back.

that guy actually practically raped you and you didnt notice he was flirting.

just what.
 
Treating this like a serious question
serious question but a hypothetical. i'm in all likelyhood going to be a virgin for a while. was reading an ama by a rape counsellor and the apparent frequency of rape sim between consenting couples came up (not particularly among rape victims, just in general) and i was curious, as I have a hard enough time finding porn with all these fuckin retard directors who're like "yeah! now slap her in the face and call her a slut and make her choke on your dick!"
anyways, thank you both for reassuring the answers.

Also, @Bologo, I think you're just getting hung up on slapping a label on your relationship with another person, which invariably screws up people. Interpersonal relations are far too complex to be boiled down to a single word like "friend" or "girlfriend"
this is a+, advice that I will cherish

so i was called a sexual deviant for the first time in my life last night.
isn't anything besides lights off missionary for the sole purpose of procreation (exaggeration obviously, but you get what I mean) 'sexual deviation'?
homosexuality is deviant from normal (when I say normal I just mean the 'average sex' if you will) sexuality, does that make it bad? lolno
Deviance isn't even a bad word, it's mathematical yo


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Oh also question regarding porn/masturbation sortof.
Is there anyone (straight, m/f doesn't really matter) who gets off to blowjobs in porn? I've never really gotten the appeal of beating off to someone else getting their dick sucked. like half the time you don't even see the naked girl because of the camera angle. Is it just supposed to be a fantasy thing where you're putting yourself in the perspective of the dude getting his dick sucked? I've basically stopped watching porn with dudes (outside of am) for reasons mentioned in first part of this post, so I don't really have to skip through it or whatever anymore, but it's always been something that i've been curious about.
 
Also, @Bologo, I think you're just getting hung up on slapping a label on your relationship with another person, which invariably screws up people. Interpersonal relations are far too complex to be boiled down to a single word like "friend" or "girlfriend", and I wouldn't really worry on whether or not you have romantic feelings for this chick or not. It sounds like you legitimately enjoy her and her company, so if I were you, I would just keep spending time with her because she's obviously a human being you enjoy, and not worry too much about whether or not you have a crush or not. A lot of good romances start out as friendships, and since you've been friends for almost your entire life, don't feel like you have to charge into a relationship with her. Since you're moving back into relative proximity with her, you'll have plenty of time to allow whatever is going to develop, develop. Also, don't feel like you NEED to get a romance out of this eventually, like it's some sort of obligation to want to bone this chick because she is an attractive member of the opposite sex; just keep doing what you're doing, and let things develop authentically.

You're absolutely right. Thanks for the advice. :]
 
bdsm can be kinda hot I reckon

soo I was out at a gay club last night as per usual and one of my girl friends was completely fucked and in the toilet probably hurling some vomit, and I was just sitting outside waiting for her with another friend. and for once someone who I find physically attractive approached me (I have really high standards you see) and we started talking and everything. He'd get really close and when he'd talk in my ears hed have like his lips on my cheeks and ears and shit. it was weird cos I didn't even have to get close to him to talk to him at all. we left 10-20 minutes afterwards to go to another club.

and then my friend tells me he was flirting with me.

I didn't even realise.

WHY AM I SO BAD AT THIS.

he was shirtless and was so fit and was pretty sober. i did get his name btw but I completely forgot it, fail whale.

getting deja vu typing up this post cos i'm pretty sure this entire situation has happened before.


First of all let me guess were you in Arq? And secondly, any physical contact stuff/close proximity with a stranger is flirting. Gawdamn junior -_- next time!
 
Oh also question regarding porn/masturbation sortof.
Is there anyone (straight, m/f doesn't really matter) who gets off to blowjobs in porn? I've never really gotten the appeal of beating off to someone else getting their dick sucked. like half the time you don't even see the naked girl because of the camera angle. Is it just supposed to be a fantasy thing where you're putting yourself in the perspective of the dude getting his dick sucked? I've basically stopped watching porn with dudes (outside of am) for reasons mentioned in first part of this post, so I don't really have to skip through it or whatever anymore, but it's always been something that i've been curious about.

No you're definitely not the only one. I usually just skip right past the blowjob part and get to the actual penetration. I don't know what the appeal is supposed to be, perhaps it is the putting yourself in the perspective? I've never seen the point though. I will say that there was one video in particular that was filmed from the guy actually getting the blowjob, and that was way hotter than being filmed from the side. But apart from that I don't think I've ever been like "ugh, I really need to watch a blowjob scene, that'll make me feel good."

I'd actually like to hear more opinions on this as well lol.
 
I'd actually like to hear more opinions on this as well lol.

I totally agree, I guess it's different for me because I watch guy on girl but the chick obviously isn't enjoying it and has to keep faking that she is, and then when she's deepthroating it she very obviously starts gagging and has to spit it out and it's just not good. The only other part I like least is when the guy starts giving the chick oral.
 
First of all let me guess were you in Arq? And secondly, any physical contact stuff/close proximity with a stranger is flirting. Gawdamn junior -_- next time!

yep mate. you'll usually find me at arq and midnight shift. sometimes stonewall, nevermind or palms. and usually on fridays cos free entry is too good to pass up and makes it sooo much easier to club hop.
 
edit:
Oh also question regarding porn/masturbation sortof.
Is there anyone (straight, m/f doesn't really matter) who gets off to blowjobs in porn? I've never really gotten the appeal of beating off to someone else getting their dick sucked. like half the time you don't even see the naked girl because of the camera angle. Is it just supposed to be a fantasy thing where you're putting yourself in the perspective of the dude getting his dick sucked? I've basically stopped watching porn with dudes (outside of am) for reasons mentioned in first part of this post, so I don't really have to skip through it or whatever anymore, but it's always been something that i've been curious about.

When I was younger (read: a couple years ago), blowjobs were the main thing in porn that I found appealing. Now, they still turn me on, but not nearly as much as the actual sex. I think I find the appeal of blowjobs in porn is putting yourself in the position of the blown one. The reason I say "I think I find" this is because my feelings about blowjobs are a bit tangled up in this regard: In life, I've really enjoyed giving blowjobs but not receiving, though the former has a much larger sample size than the latter, which could be the reason.
 
I swear, every time I read this site more Aussies show up.

Hope you all had a good Mardi Gras! I was marching with the life savers so you may have seen me in a speedo.
 
Oh also as a semi response to my rape question earlier, this beautifully accurate reddit post quelled all my fears
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[the last comment in that thread]
 
i definitely think it's a common fantasy, for boys and girls alike. just as the analogy made plain, it's the illusion of no control that is enticing, but very much unlike an actual rape setting because both partners are aware of the control each has to stop the situation if it's getting out of hand. also, the control to make the situation premeditated, for BOTH parties, rather than just the rapist in a literal example.

it's the distinction between self control in both parties and no self control in a rapist, an idea commonly taken for granted by people who assume that rape victims "were asking for it" or "still enjoyed it."

but anyway!!!! personally i kind of have a thing for bdsm, i'm definitely a "submissive" when it comes to sex. i'm curious how everyone else classifies themselves, too, and why! for me it's definitely the illusion of no control, being ravished(or ravaged!!) by my partner, tossed around, even marked up a little bit, so that i look and feel "used." it's funny how such carnal desires are commonplace for an average person sexually, when experiencing anything i listed above WITHOUT consent would have a verrry opposite effect on my psyche.
 
I would definitely classify myself as wanting to be in control, and my wife is much more a submissive. It's kind of interesting how vastly different a person can be in real life as compared to their sexual personality. People who know my wife and I in the context of everyday interaction would never peg us for some of the sexual behaviors we like.
 
Hey guys, so I have a friend that has a problem but he asked me to post it here because he doesn't want to make an account just to make a couple of posts here lol, so here we go.

So he's 15, and he's been liking a girl for a lot of time now (For about 4 years). He told the girl that he liked her and wanted to go out with her, but the girl didn't say much. She has started dating a certain guy sometime ago, and apparently broke up with her. When my friend asks her, she says that they never had a relationship although they talk to each other a lot. He has tried a lot of things (my friend) to make the girl go out with her, but with no success. Less than a week ago she told him that she was uncertain about her emotions towards my friend and didn't know if she should go out with him.

My friend has become tired of this, and is not sure what to do. Should he wait even more or just forget about her? He already tried to forget about her although his body and mind doesn't let / want him to. What should he do?

I'll try to add to this as much as possible tomorrow, though.
 
Hey guys, so I have a friend that has a problem but he asked me to post it here because he doesn't want to make an account just to make a couple of posts here lol, so here we go.

So he's 15, and he's been liking a girl for a lot of time now (For about 4 years). He told the girl that he liked her and wanted to go out with her, but the girl didn't say much. She has started dating a certain guy sometime ago, and apparently broke up with her. When my friend asks her, she says that they never had a relationship although they talk to each other a lot. He has tried a lot of things (my friend) to make the girl go out with her, but with no success. Less than a week ago she told him that she was uncertain about her emotions towards my friend and didn't know if she should go out with him.

My friend has become tired of this, and is not sure what to do. Should he wait even more or just forget about her? He already tried to forget about her although his body and mind doesn't let / want him to. What should he do?

I'll try to add to this as much as possible tomorrow, though.

Chances are, if he's tried for four years, and she basically keeps rejecting him, he should probably just give up. Yes, I know, it is EXTREMELY hard to give up (personally, I've been stuck on the same chick for months), but IMO it's better in the long run. Also, if she doesn't know if she wants to go out with him, she is probably rejecting him, but in a nice/polite way. That's probably the best case scenario. Worst case scenario? She's stringing him along, but I doubt that.
 
Get over it, move on. Stop socialising with her so he doesn't give himself reasons to keep hoping.

She's patently not interested, but doesn't want to hurt his feelings.
 
Get over it, move on. Stop socialising with her so he doesn't give himself reasons to keep hoping.

She's patently not interested, but doesn't want to hurt his feelings.

I pined over a girl for 4 years before something happened between us... Was well worth the wait! It was almost an eerily similar situation actually :|

Either way, if it's getting him down then he should probably try to move on. At the time I was more than willing to wait, so it didn't effect me that much in terms of school and the like. But yeah, I do agree that if its messing with his head he should def try and move on, it can be really difficult.
 
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