when it can get subs up or passed especially on setup bait
Still doesn't explain why you would use it over Magic Guard. Also those opportunities are so rare no one really uses CM Alakazam.
when it can get subs up or passed especially on setup bait
I know I couldnt think of another simple - manipulator
So, I was thinking on the original purpose of the thread, to take a bad pokemon (for OU) and try to come up with something that can make it viable.
I thought of him:
This guy is a serious threat in NU but in OU it has so many problems that i doubt anyone has ever considered using it.
Swellow, once he activates guts, is actually really powerfull but lacks a way to get past steel- and rock- types, so:
what if swellow learned Flare Blitz, Close Combat, or Superpower (only one)?
Flavor-wise, for Flare Blitz I could argue that swellow is obviously based on a swallow, which is the bird that represented Japan's WWII kamikaze planes, so a gutsy flaming bird coming at you at full speed (383 max) hitting you and eating a nasty recoil sounds appropiate. Close Combat could be justified because its fellow bird Staraptor gets it, while superpower is learned by Braviary.
I think a set would look like this:
Swellow Toxic Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 4 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Atk
Jolly Nature
- Facade
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz / Close Combat / Superpower (whichever move it gets, I like Flare Blitz more)
- U-turn / Quick Attack
I'm too lazy for calcs right now but maybe later if somene else find this interesting.
So is everyone ignoring my "what if"? Because if Serperior had all the listed stuff it would be devastating and Pokemon I noticed that can also may wall the Serperior is Skarmory and Heatran, except the fact that Heatran is really hurt by CC and Superpower.
What if Castform had a stat spread of 70/70/70/115/70/125 when in weather forms?
What if Castform had a stat spread of 70/70/70/115/70/125 when in weather forms?
252+ Atk Choice Band Kyurem-B Fusion Bolt vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Registeel: 154-182 (42.3 - 50%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Kyurem-B Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Registeel: 146-172 (40.1 - 47.25%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Nope. Too slow, too frail, and too predictable.Sorry for not offering much insight but anyways what would happen if Light Ball works for Raichu?
Does it become a top tier threat?
I have no comment on the previous suggestions but here's one I've always thought about it.
What if Gengar got Aura Sphere?
Gengar@Black Sludge
Timid Nature, 252 Sp.Atk 252 Spd, 4 Def
-Shadow Ball
-Substitute
-Disable
-Aura Sphere
How would this affect it? Would it be better than Focus Blast?