This honestly blew my mind. What else is Game Freak hiding from us?
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SPOILERS! Mysteries and Conspiracies of Pokemon
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For a new mystery, the de-fossilization process has always been the most intriguing premise and super useful technology... that is used to bring only a select few pokemon back to life and generally stays as far away from the story as possible. In the words of Rick, "Just don't think about it Morty."
But I am and I've got questions, like are we really bringing a prehistoric pokemon back to life? Or are we taking some old DNA and cloning a replica?
One interesting fact is that all "fossil" pokemon are part rock-type. While this could be some clever pun about the "stone-age," it could also mean that de-fossilization isn't perfect, and that the pokemon created is not a 100% accurate depiction of it's prehistoric form. Like how the dinos in Jurassic park lack feathers. This also makes me think that this isn't poke-necromancy, but the result of trying to clone a pokemon from centuries corrupted DNA.
There is a flaw in the theory though, the level you get them at. If they were brand new pokemon, you'd think they'd be level 1 like egg-hatched pokemon are.
But the "raise the dead" explanation is just too weird for me. Just due to how localized and limited this REALLY useful technology is, but that's gameplay and story separation for you.
But I am and I've got questions, like are we really bringing a prehistoric pokemon back to life? Or are we taking some old DNA and cloning a replica?
One interesting fact is that all "fossil" pokemon are part rock-type. While this could be some clever pun about the "stone-age," it could also mean that de-fossilization isn't perfect, and that the pokemon created is not a 100% accurate depiction of it's prehistoric form. Like how the dinos in Jurassic park lack feathers. This also makes me think that this isn't poke-necromancy, but the result of trying to clone a pokemon from centuries corrupted DNA.
There is a flaw in the theory though, the level you get them at. If they were brand new pokemon, you'd think they'd be level 1 like egg-hatched pokemon are.
But the "raise the dead" explanation is just too weird for me. Just due to how localized and limited this REALLY useful technology is, but that's gameplay and story separation for you.
I always had a feeling that it wasn't that Rock Pokemon were the only ancient Pokemon or that we made them rock types (but it did come up at one point). Instead, what if, the only Pokemon that left fossils that we COULD resurrect were Rock types? Most creatures without bones can't really leave a "typical" fossil. We'd find out about them if they get stuck in amber or as imprints in rocks or something. What's not to say the only Pokemon that had enough DNA to clone or something were Rock types? It makes sense when you think of it. Fossils are essentially the bones and stuff being turned into rock. But if the bones and such are ALREADY rock, then the "rock DNA" or something could be preserved compared to other Pokemon.
That makes a lot of sense as DNA wouldn't survive over millions of years and the fact that real fossils aren't really the organic matter that were the bones of these ancient creatures.
Yes, yes we can. See: Olympia (also in the anime).
Assuming the series lasts long enough, I'm sure they'll probably base a region on Germany, and the large, oversized island nation of England is practically begging for a region based on it, split into a three different parts, based off of England, Scotland, and Ireland.
How they'll base those region's antagonistic history off of them without offending (and still doing justice to) Germany will be interesting.
Maybe not Ireland, but I can see maybe them attaching Wale and possibly Scotland on the very top. Ireland I can see being its own region, and if they don't attach Scotland to England I can maybe see having Scotland being a second island in that region. Now I suppose they could make all 4 into one region, but they could have to stereotype them a bit more so might be best to just do England + Wales and Ireland + Scotland.
Though personally I'm waiting for the Greece or Italy region so we can get some Greek/Roman mythical Pokemon (and also the Scandinavian countries for Norse mythical Pokemon).
As for German villains, well personally I'd call it a missed opportunity if they didn't do some kind of Nazi analogue. As long as they're presented as villains I don't think there will be a problem, especially if they show the region rejecting them and their goals.
I wouldn't mind if they split Wales, Scotland, and Ireland into their own regions. I'm sure the fans who live in those regions would be very happy. And absolutely, Greece, Italy, and the Scandinavian countries definitely have a rich culture and great scenery deserving of regions based off of them.
I actually like the idea of a resurgent group of not-quite-Neo Nazis/Neo Fascists trying to return not-Germany back to an Imperialistic past by force. I know that Nintendo might not want to go there, but if their plan was to kill people's Pokémon and certain people and trainers who were a threat to their agenda, it would make for a compelling story.
I've found that if you really hate the enemy, you've done a pretty good job designing them. I know I'm not the only one who feels that if they are going to continue making villain teams, that they should be utterly remorseless or serious and merciless, who won't mess around, and will threaten or kill anyone who gets in their way. Then again, if they don't really have any good ideas, I suppose that making them utterly wacky seems as good an option as any...
Okay, hmm, new mystery. Well looking through TV Tropes reminded me of a mystery we haven't talked about and we could probably have a lengthy discussion with: type relations. Specifically ones which you're note quite sure how they relate (or why some don't have a relation). Just to start off, here's a few:
Normal weak to Fighting (why out of all the Pokemon types is only Fighting super effective against Normal? The others I feel are self explanatory why I listed them)
Fighting resist Bug & vice versa
Poison resist Fighting
Ghost resist Bug
Steel resist Dragon & Psychic
Fire resist Fairy
Water & Electric resist Steel
Dark weak to Bug
Fairy immune to Dragon
Of course if there's a type relation you find odd or there are two types you feel should have some form or relation but don't feel free to add in. I'll add in my own theories later.
Normal weak to Fighting (why out of all the Pokemon types is only Fighting super effective against Normal? The others I feel are self explanatory why I listed them)
Fighting resist Bug & vice versa
Poison resist Fighting
Ghost resist Bug
Steel resist Dragon & Psychic
Fire resist Fairy
Water & Electric resist Steel
Dark weak to Bug
Fairy immune to Dragon
Of course if there's a type relation you find odd or there are two types you feel should have some form or relation but don't feel free to add in. I'll add in my own theories later.
Well, have you ever tried to punch a bug? Also, what can a single bug do to a skilled fighter?
Steel is conductive to Electricity, so it wouldn't really do much to it.
Fairy and Dragon relationships are based on myths and legends as Fairies are very magical and magic usually helps defeat Dragons, both offensively and defensively.
Brute force doesn't do much to poison.
Warriors usually use metal shields when they fight Dragons.
Steel being able to resist Psychic might be related to the fact that Psychic was the "magic" type until Fairy was introduced.
I have nothing for the rest at the current time.
Jack of all trades fighter vs honed fighter, I guess it's quite obvious who is the preferred matchup.
Fighting vs bug comes to this whole bushido thing and it's relation with nature, a skilled mind vs nature and nature itself resisting.
Poison was the trick type vs the honed fighter before the pragmatic dark type was introduced.
Bugs are said to escape from haunted places to the point a place without any natural sounds in the night was often thought to be haunted, remember most ghosts of Japan tend to suck on the life force of others.
Dragons in western mythology where always linked with some sort of trinket stopping them cold, it was an uphill battle though do its mostly a resistance, psychic I'm not sure I guess it was a balance issue or aluminum foil stopping mind readers XD
Fairies in mythology where weak to sudden temperature changes.
Water cuts trough steel and it's molecular bounds lay waste to most of impacts, electric flux can stop bullets if done properly.
Combat pragmatic vs nature, fight a hive of countless enemies with exoskeleton with cheap tricks eventually you will be overpowered.
Balance, most of the Dragon slaying tools came from the fair folk or where relics from their time, kind of obvious their alien nature transcended into the item so humans could fight the dragons.
Fairy immune to Dragon (and supereffective against Dragon) due to fairy tales always slaying the dragon in the end.
Fire resists Fairy because Fire is the traditional end-all against all manner of cyrptids, or fairy's can't stand the destruction of their glens by fire, industry (steel), or pollution (poison).
Poison resist Fighting - Poison the body, poison the spirit.
Water and Electricity resists Steel - Phases of matter! Liquid and Plasma are higher than Solids!
Dark weak to Bug - CRAWLING IN MY SKIN! THIS WOUND THAT WILL NOT HEAL!
The Linkin Park bug is the weakness of all would-be dark types.
I've always thought of the reason Water resists Steel being that if you try to slash a body of water with a sword, it won't exactly do much.
Wasn't there a Greek/Roman/Somehthing myth with an army that was forced by their mad queen to keep attacking the ocean? Might be the reason for Water resisting Steel.
Do you mean the story in the Bible where God drowns the entire Egyptian army in the Red Sea while allowing the Israelites to escape?
Anyway, imo Water resists Steel because Steel will rust if it comes into contact with water and oxygen.
Wouldn't steel be weak to water then?
The Roman emporer Caligula once declared war on poseidon and made his soldiers stab the water.
And this is also why Horse-type is super effective on Crazy-type.
It could be because not all metals rust or corrode easily. While Iron and Steel (which contains iron) rust easily, Aluminum does not. Plus even for metals that oxidize, you can give them coatings to resist rust (like Galvanized Steel, which has a layer of Zinc protecting it).
While this would carry more weight if it wasn't explicitly called "Steel-type," I doubt every metal pokemon is made of the same metal. Or else Empoleon would really have a bad time swimming.
This made me laugh harder than it should.
Yes, that's it. I just remembered the myth from this book...
Don't judge, it was a fun read. AND IT'S A GRAPHIC NOVEL!
HelenTheHero I'm 21 and some of my favorite history books are the Horrible Histories kids books by Terry Deary. I still read them occasionally because they're really informative on top of being funny.
To keep this on topic, I'm going to agree with the "can't stab water" thing. Water's weaknesses seem to be more elemental-based than aquatic life-based.
To keep this on topic, I'm going to agree with the "can't stab water" thing. Water's weaknesses seem to be more elemental-based than aquatic life-based.
Is it Metal-Type in Japan?
No, it is still Steel-type. It is Metal in the TCG, though.