Also Meowth is only native to Kanto, Johto, and Sinnoh, so this may mean the player character moved from one of these regions.
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Also Meowth is only native to Kanto, Johto, and Sinnoh, so this may mean the player character moved from one of these regions.
The Slowbro line is my favorite line in all the Franchise, so yes the more Slowbro we get, the better, one of the few things I actually praise of GSC is the level development pretty Sudowodo and some interesting bonus mons on early routes, slowpoke fits here.
I know that they will destroy type distribution and abuse water types left and right, but I just gotta say that I hope Chinchou is made available early, he is always a bonus mon for post 5th/6th/7th gym or a post-game mon with a single evolution, only averted with DW and a relatively late evolution for its own good to boot, getting access to this little bad boy early will be great since I have NEVER used a Chinchou in any of my runs, be GSC, RSE or the 5th gen I can bet Chinchou and Lanturn must be among the less used water mons in history.
Corsola deserves some love too.
I just hope the islands prospects lower the intended level encounter for these guys.
So with the confirmation of old mons in the new dex coming, wich Pokémon do you think would benefit a lot from becoming mid game route mons instead of almost endgame route mons? Ice types happened in cloyster, Seel(arguably) and Vanillite. Any other useless late game mon that comes to mind, Axew happened in Gen 6 so even those like him could gain traction if deployed early. Let's keep in mind the map and avoid wishlisting too much.
I know that they will destroy type distribution and abuse water types left and right, but I just gotta say that I hope Chinchou is made available early, he is always a bonus mon for post 5th/6th/7th gym or a post-game mon with a single evolution, only averted with DW and a relatively late evolution for its own good to boot, getting access to this little bad boy early will be great since I have NEVER used a Chinchou in any of my runs, be GSC, RSE or the 5th gen I can bet Chinchou and Lanturn must be among the less used water mons in history.
Corsola deserves some love too.
I just hope the islands prospects lower the intended level encounter for these guys.
So with the confirmation of old mons in the new dex coming, wich Pokémon do you think would benefit a lot from becoming mid game route mons instead of almost endgame route mons? Ice types happened in cloyster, Seel(arguably) and Vanillite. Any other useless late game mon that comes to mind, Axew happened in Gen 6 so even those like him could gain traction if deployed early. Let's keep in mind the map and avoid wishlisting too much.
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I quite like the route 1 pokemon that were announced. I reckon the tree area near the so called 'starter village' will be a bigger dungeon woods which will have at least the woodpecker and the other two out of the three that were announced recently. I do hope the woodpecker pokemon gets a flying/grass or flying/steel Evo as it is kinda boring with normal and flying again. The other normal type pokemon that is said to be found in route 1 appears to be a weasel or pine Martin as it does not have a distinct black tail a stoat would have. We have had a weasal pokemon before (Buizel) so I hope this isn't the same species. Again, grass type could work for an Evo of this or even dark type. I feel like, from the description given of the grub bug pokemon that, it will evolve into an electric/bug type pokemon. All these species of animals the pokemon have made me think 'which of these species would actually live in Hawaii?' I don't think a koala would...
Don't know if it was every brought up here, but about Iwanko the Diamond Dog, it might be based on the Hawaiian Poi dog in addition to Shiba Inu/Akita/Spitz/etc.
You see there's apparently a small legend about the Hawaiian Poi:
Infants in a certain part of Hawaii, some time ago, were given a Hawaiian Poi puppy at birth. If they died before the dog did, the dog would be killed and buried with them, or in the case of the child outliving the dog, the dog's teeth would be made into a necklace for the human to wear.
While kind of grim, this appears to correspond with Iwanko's rocky-bone necklace-like collar and its earthly typing.
Edit: apparently Hawaiian Poi dogs were also used for meat like cattle or pigs. I need to go find my happy place now...
You see there's apparently a small legend about the Hawaiian Poi:
Infants in a certain part of Hawaii, some time ago, were given a Hawaiian Poi puppy at birth. If they died before the dog did, the dog would be killed and buried with them, or in the case of the child outliving the dog, the dog's teeth would be made into a necklace for the human to wear.
While kind of grim, this appears to correspond with Iwanko's rocky-bone necklace-like collar and its earthly typing.
Edit: apparently Hawaiian Poi dogs were also used for meat like cattle or pigs. I need to go find my happy place now...
Not really grim, in Mexican prehispánic cultures dogs helped you in the afterlife, the Xolotl was said to help you cross the 7 layers of the afterlife and differing from each cosmogonies they would even fend of the obsidian jaguars, guard you through the crashing peaks, cross you through the rivers and even warm you in the frozen realm.
So dogs were not only food, but a family member.
Heck, for the Mam speaking tribes near where I live as well the Tzetzal and Tzotzil tribes the myth of deluge stablishes that all mankind came from the sole survivor and one bitch created by the dark side of Venus(Xolotl in Aztec another side of quetzalcoatl) and it's womb allowed mankind to repopulate the land. Making everyone dog people while dogs became our guardians and brothers... At least for all of the people sharing that myth.
Dogs as mankind best friends has a lot of origins apparently XD
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Also to add, since the Poi dog species is now extinct, its rock type could symbolize it as a dead breed.
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It's set in Polynesia I think, especially because the demigod guy is in a lot of legends there.
I hope we get a good surfing area and tiki statues. I think there is much more to be revealed with the map.
We have that already in Lilo and Stitch.
I vote for having a four eyed or four armed alien monster and a chupacabra!
Are you all talking about Moana? It's set in Oceania but one of the main characters, a demi-god named Maui, is based on a Hawaiian cult hero of the same name. And a week ago they released the first trailer for it (though before then they released a behind the scenes video introducing the voice actress for the titled main character and she's Hawaiian). So, yeah, it's Hawaii.
And to put this derailed discussion back on track, reading up on the legend of Maui, I'd say him or aspects of him would make for an interesting Pokemon or human character. Giant fish hook, pulling the sun, lifting islands from the water, definitely sounds like Legendary material to me (maybe even as one of the island guardians).
Actually that's another point of speculation, Hawaiian myths. How much inspiration will they take from that?
And to put this derailed discussion back on track, reading up on the legend of Maui, I'd say him or aspects of him would make for an interesting Pokemon or human character. Giant fish hook, pulling the sun, lifting islands from the water, definitely sounds like Legendary material to me (maybe even as one of the island guardians).
Actually that's another point of speculation, Hawaiian myths. How much inspiration will they take from that?
Ooh, that's a good point. It would be really cool to see what they do with Pele, the Volcano Goddess. Actually, thinking about it, a Fire-type legendary based on her could be a wandering Pokémon as Pele is Hawaii's version of the Vanishing Hitchhiker.
I just hope we get an actual wandering legend, instead of Zapdos/Moltres/Articuno in XY.
geez you actually like wandering legends are you sure you're not a masochist?
Those are almost impossible to soft reset though.
Sure soft resetting sucks, but being able to realistically catch a (near) flawless version of something is a good thing.
It would be a lot easier now than back in the day, now that we have Mega Gengar and Gothitelle.
Watch, they'll do a wandering legend and make it Ghost-type.
I don't care. Unless they make it so that I can determine at least the IVs I want (then I'd only have to worry about the nature), I'm not interested! IV checking with Staraptor and Smeargle would be impossible. Soft-reseting is already time consuming and tedious as it is. I don't need any more challenge added to it!!!
Oh, way to give them an idea! Lets hope Game Freak doesn't have that kind of sense of humor!!!
Edit: I know I'm being salty, but I'm SRing for Thundurus right now, and boy, is it not fun! Actually, I'd rather input the IVs I want first, battle it, and catch it like so.
Hey, it isn't like ARed or other such legendaries haven't shown up at the VGC in the past! It will inevitably happen again, because cheaters always find a way.
Wandering legendaries was an interesting idea on paper, but it requires really specific and much closer preparation for, and can be even more time consuming than just fighting stationary legends if RNG isn't on your side for manipulating the poke to get on the route you're currently on.
X/Y did it the right way, personally. It can potentially still be time wasting, but at least the birds end up in a specific location once you've encountered them a set amount of times, and don't move anywhere else. This is how I think they've should have done it before, and I would hope if they bring back wandering legends in Sun/Moon, that they'd stick to this way of doing it.
X/Y did it the right way, personally. It can potentially still be time wasting, but at least the birds end up in a specific location once you've encountered them a set amount of times, and don't move anywhere else. This is how I think they've should have done it before, and I would hope if they bring back wandering legends in Sun/Moon, that they'd stick to this way of doing it.
That would actually be quite interesting. So, after doing a little research, I think an hypothetical Fire-type "Pele Pokémon" should form a legendary duo with an hypothetical Ice-type "Poliahu Pokémon", since their counterparts are rivals in myths.
Anyway, from what I have found, there is actually a quartet of main deities in Hawaiian culture, which are:
- Kane, father of living creatures and the most important deity;
- Ku, god of war;
- Lono, god of agriculture and connected to rainfalls, peace and music;
- Kanaloa, god of the underworld and ruler of the ocean, is a close companion of Kane.
If these were to become Pokémon, I suppose they could have these types:
- Kane Pokémon: Ground / Normal / Dragon;
- Ku Pokémon: Fire / Steel / Dark (could have Final Gambit as an attack due to its counterpart getting many sacrifices);
- Lono: Grass / Ground (could have moves like Grass Whistle and Rain Dance);
- Kanaloa: Ghost / Water / Dark.
However, the Hawaiian culture is so full of deities that there shouldn't be any trouble finding some material for some legendaries. Among the most important ones there are:
- Pele (as previously mentioned by Vader_the_White), goddess of volcanoes which controls fire, lightning and wind. Potential Fire-, Electric- or Flying-type.
- Poliahu, goddess of snow and rival of Pele. Potential Ice-type.
- Hina, goddess of Moon. Potential Dark- or Fairy-type. Only issue is that it may clash with Lunala.
- Laka, goddess of hula. Potential Normal- or Psychic-type. Could learn many dance moves, like Petal Dance or Teeter Dance.
- Kuula, god of fishermen. Potential Water-type. Could have Suction Cups as its Ability.
- Papa, fertility goddess and Earth mother. Potential Ground-type.
If you would like to find more useful info, this site illustrates many things about Hawaiian myths and legends.
I honestly prefer the pre-XY way of wandering legendaries. While I haven't ever SR for a legendary, the old way is much better for people not SRing; I've actually never captured my bird in pokemon X, because I found it so irritating. In the other generations, once you encounter the pokemon, you can either chuck a masterball, snagging you the mon immediately, or you can come back a while later with a trapping mon and treat it like a normal encounter (and tbh if you get a smeargle or something with mean look baton pass you can just pass it to a level 100 false swiper and you could probably stall the thing out fairly easily). With the new system you have to grind for the encounter what, 7 (I think?) times, and then you get a normal encounter. I mean, sure it's better for SRing, but for the rest of us (or at least me) it's just a huge pain.
Edit: It might not be so bad if we get something similar to the poketch from DPP, and can see the location of the roamer so you can get the encounter easier, but as far as I know the only way currently is to check the pokedex constantly for the location.
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