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Gen VII: Pokemon Sun and Moon Discussion MKII
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According to our TV Tropes translator, the JPN site mentions Pulverizing Pancake is "An altered Giga Impact" Not only does this means its super strong, but I expect other Z moves to have power within a similar ballpark.
In addition, a Dark Type rattatta was mentioned in by the 4chan leaker who leaked Salandit, Bewear, and Mimikyu. This leak also said that the Chinese leaks were accurate, giving more credence to the starter evos.
Finally, I believe the info we learned today spools the secret Rockruff and the starters were holding for so long: Signature Z moves. it would make sense, seeing as these new moves are getting a lot of focus, and Rockruff's evolutionary secrets were to b revealed in this month's Corocoro. But let's go one step further; I'm willing to bet that in 6 days, on the next info dump, we will be getting our first look at the starter mid forms. This would coincide with XY's release of Quilladin and friends in the same month 3 years ago.
In addition, a Dark Type rattatta was mentioned in by the 4chan leaker who leaked Salandit, Bewear, and Mimikyu. This leak also said that the Chinese leaks were accurate, giving more credence to the starter evos.
Finally, I believe the info we learned today spools the secret Rockruff and the starters were holding for so long: Signature Z moves. it would make sense, seeing as these new moves are getting a lot of focus, and Rockruff's evolutionary secrets were to b revealed in this month's Corocoro. But let's go one step further; I'm willing to bet that in 6 days, on the next info dump, we will be getting our first look at the starter mid forms. This would coincide with XY's release of Quilladin and friends in the same month 3 years ago.
That would explain a great many things.
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Well, when a replacement comes out, first party games USUALLY wind down to a stop. And the reason the PS2 lasted THAT long was because the Wii was the same "level" allowing for easy game ports.
So it looks like they made the Super Smash Bros. Snorlax a Pokemon now. Literally squashing opponents. What's good with this Munchlax is that its not a starter type, so I don't have to deal with having two Fire-types (In XY it was event Blaziken and Delphox) or whatever.
Alola-form Rattata. Please let there be Raticate as well...... (It'd be lame if a design like that just gets wasted away towards a regular Raticate; Considering the mafia/gangster look Rattata has going on in this new form, I swear that if Raticate gets a new form as well that it would look really cool)
Alola-form Rattata. Please let there be Raticate as well...... (It'd be lame if a design like that just gets wasted away towards a regular Raticate; Considering the mafia/gangster look Rattata has going on in this new form, I swear that if Raticate gets a new form as well that it would look really cool)
It's confirmed in the dex of Alola ratatta there is an Alolan Raticate.
I hope to god there is a kicking pose for that trainer because boy whenever I see Infernape use Close Combat I whip out a kick irl.Didn't see this mentioned anywhere, but the Japanese Nintendo Direct showed Lucario using what is most likely the Fighting-type Z-Move.
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Was that rumor that the starters and Rockruff will have split evolutions debunked yet? I don't think the starters will, but I'm kind of starting to believe the "secret they share" is a split evo for Rockruff.
Lately when Pokemon releases a video before/after CoroCoro leaks there are differences from CoroCoro. Sometimes they have to omitte a reveal because it was CoroCoro exclusive or other times they add in new reveals like Alolan Raichu.
Last month CoroCoro said they will have a poster for Rockruff's "secret evolution". (This is what was posted on serebii the night it leaked, do correct me if it was changed since) Maybe they meant secret literally, since no one knows what he evovles into yet, but I'm pretty sure it was a call back to the secret he shares with the starters. I'm guessing which starter you pick will effect which evolution he'll get. TPCi will reveal one evolution the 6th and CoroCoro will reveal another when it leaks.
Lately when Pokemon releases a video before/after CoroCoro leaks there are differences from CoroCoro. Sometimes they have to omitte a reveal because it was CoroCoro exclusive or other times they add in new reveals like Alolan Raichu.
Last month CoroCoro said they will have a poster for Rockruff's "secret evolution". (This is what was posted on serebii the night it leaked, do correct me if it was changed since) Maybe they meant secret literally, since no one knows what he evovles into yet, but I'm pretty sure it was a call back to the secret he shares with the starters. I'm guessing which starter you pick will effect which evolution he'll get. TPCi will reveal one evolution the 6th and CoroCoro will reveal another when it leaks.
Ooh, could you imagine Hawlucha + Fighting-type Z move + Unburden + Acrobatics?
Why fighting when you can carry a Dark or Poison Z move, or the elemental punches?
Giving higher BP on your coverage could be important, of course this is assuming the item is consumed.
Wait, was it confirmed that Z-Crystals disappear when you use them then? I'll have to rewatch that part of the Direct again then.
I seriously doubt they're consumed.
Whether it's intentional or not, I find it very funny and fitting that it looks (visually) like a better version of Close Combat.Didn't see this mentioned anywhere, but the Japanese Nintendo Direct showed Lucario using what is most likely the Fighting-type Z-Move.
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Well, judging by the fact that we see a x1 in the items bag...it seems it might be. Also there were heavy implications that you can buy them in stores so maybe??
Didn't see this mentioned anywhere, but the Japanese Nintendo Direct showed Lucario using what is most likely the Fighting-type Z-Move.
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Guess it'll be called ORAORAORA
And if it isn't... It will be by the fans. (Or maybe MUDAMUDAMUDA)Guess it'll be called ORAORAORADidn't see this mentioned anywhere, but the Japanese Nintendo Direct showed Lucario using what is most likely the Fighting-type Z-Move.
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It does that to Mega Stones too though, so i'm not sure. and where did it imply buying them in stores?
The game has always leaned toward offensive so while it would be interesting to see what a status Z-Move would be like we probably won't get one. Also I think GF would rather have the effect of the Z-Move be for that moment rather then having any lasting effect. Fainting an opponent is fine but increasing the users stats in any significant way or even fully healing & curing them has an effect which lasts outside the Z-Moves use. Of course this brings up the question if supportive Pokemon would want to use Z-Moves then or stay with items that heals them or buffs their defense. There's still questions concerning Z-Moves such as their Power and what stats do they use to calculate damage.
Hmm, well possible in single player I do wonder what they'd do for Wifi. Would both players have to agree to cancel the animation? Can one watch if they want, thus leaving their opponent waiting for them to catch up? Maybe GF thought since these moves are one time use the longer animation was alright since at most it'll happen two times during the match.
Well Z-Moves can be used by any Pokemon and as long as the Pokemon can learn a move of that type they can use a Z-Move of that type. I would imagine for Pokemon who can either Mega Evolve or stand on their own with another item be it Life Orb or Leftovers they wouldn't need Z-Moves. Z-Moves are for the Pokemon who may not get the spotlight normally or not fully evolved Pokemon who don't mind giving up Eviolite to do a huge amount of damage once. It could also be used for a one time coverage, you have a sweeper who can handle itself against everything but that one/few weakness(es). Well teach it a move that its weakness(es) are weak/neutral to, give it a Z-Crystal, and if it runs up against that type it can at least take one of them out and continue on its sweep. I can see a wallbreaker maybe liking this to take down a wall that's a little tougher then they thought. Whether a Z-Move is worth it is definitely going to be a Pokemon by Pokemon basis. And as for Signature Z-Moves, there might be a few which will end up never being used, just like there's Mega Evolutions which are hardly used. It's hard to predict what will change the metagame and what would prove so insignificant the metagame dumps it and moves on.
It never hurts to try something new, the problem isn't with the new thing but if the creators decide to focus entirely on it then a previous mechanic which was really popular. I'm not going to blame Z-Moves if there's no new Mega Evolution, I'm going to blame GameFreak for blindly ignoring what players liked last generation. Just like I don't blame Alolan Pokemon for being a Gen I nostalgia pandering tool, I blame GameFreak for making it only a Gen I Pokemon.
Then they gave Snorlax a Snorlium and told him Gonald Trumshoos was also banning Mexican food. Triggered.
YOU DOING WHAT TO MY ENCHILADAS!
I watched the video again and there's no water droplets. Its just blue with action lines (one in the shape of a zig zag). Also why would an Electric/Psychic-type get an Electric/Water-type Signature Z-Move? I think it's pure Electric.
Eh, I could see someone guessing Fairy as well since its sort of the mystical type. Still they got it wrong being Fire/Fairy, which is something to note. I'm not saying what they said isn't true, they did predict a few things and got half guesses. If there's any merit to the leak this would mean its very little merit. At best they heard of a few things then went and made up stuff to fill in the gaps or just for the lulz. In my books the leaks are still unreliable, we can't take anything it says without some salt and if that's the case why not just wait for official information?
Just cause the NX isn't a handheld doesn't mean they don't have a new handheld in the works. Also, even if Gen VII stays on the 3DS it could be decided to be the New 3DS and incompatible with the normal 3DS. I hope this isn't a case but since it looks like only their handheld department is making them a profit they could shift focus to it after the NX's release or wanting games to be made for the most recent and more powerful model.
Didn't see this mentioned anywhere, but the Japanese Nintendo Direct showed Lucario using what is most likely the Fighting-type Z-Move.
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Likely? The trainer activates the Z-Ring and does a Z-Move pose. Unless you mean it's likely the normal Fighting-type Z-Move and not a Lucario specific Z-Move in which case I agree. And of course its everything I imagined it to be, the Pokemon just going to town with energy fists and kicks (though Lucario just standing there bothers me, it couldn't at least be doing its attack animation?)
...except it's not "CLOSE combat", but some projectile fists. But I got your point, the punching animation is very similar.
Here's the Japanese trailer. Nothing new but it does show:
0:28: The full trainer posing for Stoked Sparksurfer. It is indeed different from the normal Electric Z-Move posing but they end the same way with the trainer making a thunderbolt zigzag with their arms.
0:50: Guessing this is how receiving a Pokemon looks in Sun & Moon.
0:58: Evolution.
1:16: I notice the Japanese trailer likes using the boy when the English likes using the girl. Odd, you'd think it would be the other way around.
1:26: Ditto? Poor Ditto doesn't deserve this! Then again it would probably be one of few Pokemon to survive it.
0:50: Guessing this is how receiving a Pokemon looks in Sun & Moon.
0:58: Evolution.
1:16: I notice the Japanese trailer likes using the boy when the English likes using the girl. Odd, you'd think it would be the other way around.
1:26: Ditto? Poor Ditto doesn't deserve this! Then again it would probably be one of few Pokemon to survive it.
Yeah, Rock slipped me (because it sucks...j/k). That adds Carbink/Diancie, Terrakion and Tyranitar.
XY => early WIFI event Pokémon for ingame team, Torchic => ORAS
SM => early WIFI event Pokémon for ingame team, Munchlax => ???
I've just read on reddit that there is a volcanic cone on Hawaii named Diamond Head. There is also Pearl Harbor obviously. Hmmm...
SM => early WIFI event Pokémon for ingame team, Munchlax => ???
I've just read on reddit that there is a volcanic cone on Hawaii named Diamond Head. There is also Pearl Harbor obviously. Hmmm...
Can we not assume that every opening mystery gift is some sort of hint to the future? It was a one-time thing with Torchic, who is arguably the most popular starter line after the Kanto starters and one of GFs chosen ones.
That said, you should begin to feel true fear whenever Snorlax opens his eyes.
That said, you should begin to feel true fear whenever Snorlax opens his eyes.
Where? The Japanese website and the Direct video showed nothing about Raticate.
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