Megas For All: V4! (Voting - Lickilicky, Togekiss, Dusknoir)

[Shoopz_Whisper]

Yep! Anyone can vote and suggest slates :)

Ok, thank you!

 

[charizard8888]

The Megas For All tool just got way better!
Although it probably hasn't been used till now so you might not feel it

Here's what's new:

- The stats, dex number and the default weight automatically load up upon entering the name of the Pokemon! Just need to enter the new stat spread and the new weight (If applicable).
- No need to worry and click on Generate anymore! The function works onInput now but the Generate button completes the whole look so still kept it for now.

Currently thinking a way for implementing an easier way to check ability ratings.

Also signup for the Megas For All Open if you haven't already!

 

[porg_1]

Swalot: Sereg, Gojiratar, Origin0
Magcargo: Yung Dramps, MoonlightRose, superstrike66
Gastrodon-East: Yung Dramps, Sereg, Dilasc
Gastrodon-West: Origin0, Dilasc, curiosity

 

[Jucherz]

Gourginite isn't coded yet?

 

[Squawkerz]

I think this is a problem.

 

[Jucherz]

View attachment 114527
I think this is a problem.

The USUM movepool changes haven't been implemented on Dragon Heaven yet. Use the Nexus server for building your Megas For All teams.

 

[Heavyweapons Mann]

MaceMaster Can you announce the winners/start the next slate?

 

[Sereg]

Magcargo: Lyd, Origin0, Yung-Dramps

Swalot: Cookie Butter, Lyd, Gojiratar
Gastrodon-East: MoonlightRose, Yung-Dramps, Origin0
Gastrodon-West: Origin0, MoonlightRose, Yung-Dramps

 

[Point_At_Me]

Swalot: Origin0,Lyd
Magcargo: Gravity Monkey,Lyd
Gastrodon-East: curiosity,Yung-Dramps
Gastrodon-West: curiosty,Yung-Dramps

 

[superstrike66]

Don't want to be an ass, but when will the winners for this slate be announced?

 

[Nalei]

Really sorry, completely forgot about this...
Winners are MaceMaster's Gastrodon East, Origin0's Gastrodon West, Gojiritar's Swalot and Yung Dramp's Magcargo!

Counterparts Slate
4.5 ability cap for Butterfree and Slowking and a 4 ability cap for Froslass. Maximum of 2 new moves as per usual.​

 

[Jucherz]

Mega Butterfree
New type:

New ability: Simple
Mega Stone: Butterfrite
Stats:
HP: 60
Atk: 45
Def: 50
SpA: 145 (+55)
SpD: 80
Spe: 115 (+45)
New Moves: Psyshock, Focus Blast
Description: Despite having quite a low BST for a Mega evolution, Mega Butterfree carves itself a niche in the form of an ultimate boosting move - Simple Quiver Dance. It is basically a Geomancy without the charging turn. After a Quiver Dance Mega Butterfree becomes a terrifying sweeper. However it is still weak physically and it is also very susceptible to priority attacks.

Mega Slowking
New type:

New ability: Intimidate
Mega Stone: Slowkingite
Stats:
HP: 95
Atk: 125 (+50)
Def: 140 (+60)
SpA: 50 (-50)
SpD: 150 (+40)
Spe: 30
New Moves: Sucker Punch, Knock Off
Description: WIP

Mega Slowking
New type:

New ability: Snow Warning
Mega Stone: Froslassite
Stats:
HP: 70
Atk: 80
Def: 70
SpA: 130 (+50)
SpD: 90 (+20)
Spe: 140 (+30)
New Moves: Freeze Dry, Dazzling Gleam
Description: Fast Aurora Veil setter and strong Blizzard spammer.

 

[WTCO]

Butterfree

Butterfree

Bug/Flying → Bug/Psychic

HP: 60 → 60 (0)
Atk: 45 → 15 (-30)
Def: 50 → 50 (0)
SpA: 90 → 150 (+60)
SpD: 80 → 80 (0)
Spe: 70 → 140 (+70)

Compund Eyes/Tinted Lens → Levitate

New Moves: Psyshock, Hurricane

• Stat increases are similar to that of Beedrill, losing its useless attack stat to become powerful and fast
• Bug/Psychic gives it a unique typing that is actually arguably worse offensively and gives it an extra weakness but decreases the severity of stealth rock
• Levitate allows it to keep a ground immunity, allowing it more chances to switch in
• Psyshock allows it to not be (completely) walled by special walls, hurricane gives it a high powered coverage move
• Still very frail and can only switch in so many times.

Calcs:

+1 252 SpA Butterfree Psychic vs. 252 HP / 24 SpD Landorus-Therian: 191-225 (50 - 58.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

+2 252 SpA Butterfree Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Assault Vest Magearna: 172-204 (47.3 - 56.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Possible Sets

Possible Sets:

All Out Attacker

Butterfree @ Butterfrite

Ability: Compound Eyes

252 SpA/4 SpD/252 Spe

Timid Nature

Bug Buzz
Psychic/Psyshock
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power Fire

Quiver Dance

Butterfree @ Butterfrite

Ability: Compound Eyes

252 SpA/4 SpD/252 Spe

Timid Nature

Bug Buzz
Psyshock/Psychic
Hidden Power Fire/Sleep Powder
Quiver Dance

Slowking

Slowking

Water/Psychic → Water/Psychic

HP: 95 → 95 (0)
Atk: 75 → 75 (0)
Def: 80 → 80 (0)
SpA: 100 → 130 (+30)
SpD: 110 → 180 (+70)
Spe: 30 → 30 (0)

Oblivious/Own Tempo/Regenerator → Regenerator

• Amazing 95/180 special bulk makes Slowking very hard to break on that side.
• 130 special attack and access to Nasty Plot allows Slowking to run a bulky attacker set as well.
• Keeps Regenerator unlike its cousin Slowbro since it's a fantastic defensive ability.
• Even with significant investment in defense, struggles against physical dark and grass types and coverage moves.

Calcs:

252 SpA Choice Specs Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Slowking: 139-165 (35.2 - 41.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 SpA Magearna Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Slowking: 118-140 (29.9 - 35.5%) -- 27.3% chance to 3HKO

252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Slowking: 127-150 (32.2 - 38%) -- 96.7% chance to 3HKO

Possible Sets

Possible Sets:

Defensive

Slowking @ Slowkingite

Regenerator

252 HP/252 Def/4 SpD

Scald
Psyshock
Toxic/Ice Beam
Slack Off

Nasty Plot

Slowking @ Slowkingite

Regenerator

252 HP/252 SpA/4 SpD

Modest

Nasty Plot
Scald/Hydro Pump
Psychic/Psyshock
Fire Blast/Ice Beam

Tank

Slowking @ Slowkingite

Regenerator

252 HP/252 SpA/4 SpD

Modest

Scald
Psychic/Psyshock
Ice Beam/Slack Off
Slack Off/Fire Blast

Froslass

Froslass

Ice/Ghost → Ice/Ghost

HP: 70 → 70 (0)
Atk: 80 → 90 (+10)
Def: 70 → 80 (+10)
SpA: 80 → 120 (+40)
SpD: 70 → 80 (+10)
Spe: 110 → 140 (+30)

Snow Cloak/Cursed Body → Prankster

New Moves: Toxic Spikes

• Good special attack and great speed tier.
• Prankster in combination with Froslass' blazing speed means that it will almost always be able to set up one layer of hazards or Destiny Bond even against opposing scarf users.
• Toxic Spikes gives Froslass another move to potentially use as a hazard setter.
• Inability to hold a Focus Sash makes it more difficult for Froslass to hold an
• Special attack is good but not amazing. Plenty of Pokemon in OU are bulky enough to take at least one attack and hit hard back. Combined with Froslass' average at best bulk and weakness to Stealth Rock and it's not going to last very long.

Possible Sets

Possible Sets:

Lead

Froslass @ Froslassite

Cursed Body

252 SpA/4 SpD/252 Spe

Timid/Modest

Spikes
Toxic Spikes/Will-O-Wisp/Shadow Ball
Destiny Bond/Shadow Ball
Ice Beam

 

[Heavyweapons Mann]

WTCO Doesn't Froslass have base 70 HP?

 

[WTCO]

WTCO Doesn't Froslass have base 70 HP?

lol whoops fixed

 

[Brodaha]

Mega Slowking
New Type: Water / Fairy
New ability: Clear Mind (Doubles Special Defense)
Mega Stone: Slowkingite
Stats:
HP: 95
Atk: 75
Def: 115 (+35)
SpA: 130 (+30)
SpD: 145 (+35)
Spe: 30
New Moves: Moonblast
Description: Bulky offense mega with a decent offensive movepool and a very useful ability.

Mega Butterfree
New type:

New ability: Protean
Mega Stone: Butterfreenite
Stats:
HP: 60
Atk: 15 (-30)
Def: 50
SpA: 150 (+60)
SpD: 80
Spe: 140 (+70)
New Moves: Aura Sphere, Thunderbolt
Description: Butterfree here is literally Mega Beedrill, but specially oriented, and with access to quiver dance. It learned how to blend in with it's environment using patterns on it's wings, so it gets Protean.

 

[Origin0]

Mega Butterfree
Ability: Contaminate (Poison-type -ate)
HP: 60
Atk: 45 ---> 45
Def: 50 ---> 65 (+15)
SpA: 90 ---> 120 (+30)
SpD: 80 ---> 100 (+20)
Spe: 70 ---> 105 (+35)
Weight: 34 kg

New Moves: Sludge Bomb, Tri Attack
Description: Butterfree's wings enlarge and become deep purple with red edges. Mega Butterfree is a Quiver Dancer with access to Contaminate-boosted Tri Attack and outspeeds the base 100 speed tier.

Mega Slowking
Ability: Regenerator
HP: 95
Atk: 75 ---> 75
Def: 80 ---> 80
SpA: 100 ---> 170 (+70)
SpD: 110 ---> 140 (+30)
Spe: 30 ---> 30
Weight: 120 kg

New Moves: Dragon Pulse, Thunderbolt
Description: Energy from the Mega Stone awakens the spirit of a powerful dragon resting inside. Slowking's crown grows larger and engulfs its head, covering even its eyes and mouth. However, Slowking's psychic powers remain intact, and it can sense its world through the gem on its crown. Mega Slowking has greatly improved special bulk and special attack, while also retaining Regenerator for longevity. Unlike Slowbro, Slowking has access to Nasty Plot, making it a powerful but slow offensive threat.

Mega Froslass
Ability: Spiritize (Ghost-type -ate)
HP: 70
Atk: 80 ---> 100 (+20)
Def: 70 ---> 70
SpA: 80 ---> 120 (+40)
SpD: 70 ---> 70
Spe: 110 ---> 150 (+40)
Weight: 30 kg

New Moves: Hyper Voice, Quiver Dance
Description: The bow on its back extends to look like a pair of wings, which is used to move very quickly while attacking. Froslass' arms become heart-shaped, but with claws as sharp as icicles on the ends. Mega Froslass becomes extremely fast, and with new access to Quiver Dance and Ghost-type Hyper Voices, it can exert high offensive pressure. Ice/Ghost STAB has great coverage, which becomes perfect neutral coverage with Thunderbolt.

 

[superstrike66]

Mega Froslass

Type: Ice/Ghost => Ice/Ghost

Item: Froslassite
Ability: Snow Cloak/ Cursed body => Charmmaker: gives 1.5x power to Fairy moves (Steelworker clone)
Stats:
HP : 70
ATK : 80
DEF : 70
SPA : 80 => 130 (+50)
SPD : 70 => 100 (+30)
SPE : 110 => 130 (+20)
New Moves: Nasty Plot, Aura Sphere
Description: Froslass becomes a very fast special sweeper, with good coverage moves in Charmaker-boosted Draining kiss, Psychic, Aura Sphere, Thunderbolt, and great STABs in Shadow Ball and Ice Beam/ Blizzard.


Mega Slowking
Type: Water/Psychic => Water/Psychic

Item: Slowkingite
Ability: Regenerator/Own tempo/Oblivious => Strong Will: halves the power of Ghost and Dark moves (Thick Fat clone)
Stats:
HP: 95
Atk: 75
Def: 80 => 120 (+40)
SpA: 100 => 135 (+35)
SpD: 110 => 135 (+25)
Spe: 30
New Moves: Stored Power, Stockpile
Descripton: Slowking is a very bulky special sweeper, with good defense-boosting moves in Stockpile and Calm Mind, while Stored Power abuses these boosts.

Mega Butterfree

Type: Bug/Flying => Psychic/Flying

Ability: Compound Eyes/Tinted Lens => No Guard
Item: Butterfrite
Stats:
HP: 60
ATK: 45
DEF: 50 =>
SPA: 90 => 130 (+ 40)
SPD: 80 => 95 (+15)
SPE: 70 => 115 (+45)
New Moves: Focus Blast, Fire Blast
Description: Tired of missing Hurricane, Fire Blast, Sleep Powder, and Focus Blast? Well, with Mega Butterfree, that's no longer a problem! With No Guard, Butterfree's Hurricane, Focus Blast, and Fire blast become really spamable, and a perfect accuracy Sleep Powder allows for a lot of setup opportunities.

Edit: changed froslass's ability

 

[Eve]

Been a while since I did this!

Mega!
Type: Bug/Flying (I think I'm the first to not change the typing, so that's something)
Ability: Magic Guard
Stats: 60/15 (-30)/50/150 (+60)/80/140 (+70)
New Moves: Hurricane, Psyshock
Description: A truthful counterpart to Mega Beedrill. With the same proportional stat increases, an ability that makes it much more useful than it may otherwise be and being walled by Steel types, it matches pretty well. It also fits the mon decently: It has Psychic influences, so Magic Guard isn't much of a stretch. Despite being walled quite effectively by Steel types, as well as its low defenses, it is definitely a threat to beware if it manages to start dancing.

Mega!
Type: Water/Psychic
Ability: Hydration
Stats: 95/75/80/150 (+50)/160 (+50)/30
New Moves: Hydro Pump, Energy Ball
Description: The offensive counterpart to Mega Slowbro! With a great 150 Special Attack backed up with good Special Defense and HP, Mega Slowking is a powerful abuser of Calm Mind and Nasty Plot. Hydration is fairly situational as it already learns Slack Off, but definitely gives it the option of being ran on Rain. Mega Slowking's main weakness is its fairly lacking Physical bulk combined with its pitiful Speed, which almost guarantees the opponent will outpace it and get a hit off before it does.

Will do Froslass tomorrow or something

 

[KirbyRider1337]

Butterfree-Mega
Ability: Compound Eyes / Tinted Lens ----> Tinted Lens
Typing: Bug / Flying

Stats:

HP: 60
Attack: 45 ----> 15 (-30)
Defense: 50
Special Attack: 90 ----> 150 (+60)
Special Defense: 80 ----> 110 (+30)
Speed: 70 ----> 110 (+40)
Base Stat Total: 395 ----> 495
Movepool Additions: Hurricane
Description: I personally shot for a middle ground between the "Focus on Special Stats" approach that the base form took and the "Beedrill but Special" approach. Just QD up, and Tinted Lens will do the talking. One should be enough to save you from getting KO'd from a Special move. It's kinda like Volcarona in a way.

 

[Gojiratar]

Slowbro-Mega

Ability: Magic Guard
Stats:
HP: 100 (+0)
Atk: 75 (+0)
Def: 100 (+20)
SpA: 130 (+30)
SpD: 180 (+70)
Spe: 10 (-20)
BST: 595 (+100)
Mega Stone: Slowkingite
Movepool Aditions: Hydro Pump & Stored Power.
Competitive: "Special" counterpart to Slowbro-Mega, but with better distributed stats and an actually useful ability to set up with CM and Stored Power without fearing about chip damage dealer status moves like Toxic or Leech Seed. Its lower Speed, higher SpA and bulk and new access to Hydro Pump also helps it to be an OTR sweeper, which can be a nice surprising set.

Froslass-Mega

Ability: Deep Freezing (XY Gale Wings clone: +1 priority to all Ice-type moves)
Stats:
HP: 70 (+0)
Atk: 100 (+20)
Def: 80 (+10)
SpA: 130 (+50)
SpD: 80 (+10)
Spe: 120 (+10)
BST: 580 (+100)
Mega Stone: Froslassite
Movepool Aditions: Freezy Dry & Nasty Plot.
Competitive: L8er

 

[lydian]

Mega Butterfree

Ability - Compoundeyes; Tinted Lens

Farfalla Shield - Accuracy, Defense, and Special Defense are all increased by 30% each. (Compoundeyes clone)
HP - 60

60
Atk - 45

15 (-30)
Def - 50

45 (-5)
SpA - 90

135 (+45)
SpD - 80

105 (+25)
Spe - 70

135 (+65)
BST - 480

580 (+100)

Mega Stone

Butterfreeite
Movepool Additions

Hurricane, Focus Blast
Competitive Analysis

Really strong Quiver Dance user by virtue of its ability, allowing it to often hit the likes of Hurricane, Focus Blast, and Sleep Powder. A great speed tier also means pretty much no Choice Scarf user is outrunning it, making it quite a threat to offense. Thankfully, Steel-types neutral to Fighting and other Flying-resists are great choices against it. Specially Tapu Koko, who can ignore Sleep Powder.

Sample Set

Butterfree @ Butterfreeite
Ability: Tinted Lens
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Focus Blast
- Quiver Dance
- Sleep Powder

Mega Froslass

Ability - Snow Cloak; Cursed Body

Enigmatic Cloak - User's weaknesses and resistances are reversed. (this should be simple, I can do it if it wins ig!)
HP - 70

70
Atk - 80

34 (-46)
Def - 70

119 (+49)
SpA - 80

51 (-29)
SpD - 70

136 (+66)
Spe - 110

170 (+60)
BST - 480

580 (+100)

Mega Stone

Froslassite
Movepool Additions

Recover, Wish
Competitive Analysis

Mega Froslass is an excellent Spikes setter with great speed, bulk, and ability, letting it have an excellent set of resistances. Too bad its poor special attack can leave it unable to do much back.

Sample Set

Froslass @ Froslassite
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 112 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Spikes
- Recover
- Taunt / Wish / Thunderbolt

Note: Outspeeds Mega Swellow; Avoids 2HKO from Kartana's Leaf Blade

 

[Gojiratar]

Recover, Wish, Nasty Plot

Maximum of 2 new moves as per usual.

 

[Qplaz]

Mega Butterfree

Compound Eyes / Tinted Lens

Regenerator
HP: 60
ATK: 45
DEF: 50

115 (+65)
SPA: 90
SPD: 80

120 (+40)
SPE: 70

65 (-5)
BST: 395

495 (+100)
New Moves: Flash Cannon, Stealth Rock
Overview: I thought I'd try to offer a different view to the majority of other people, and try to make a butterfree that contrasts the variety of "fast but frail quiver dance sweeper" megas. Butterfree has always been one of those really strange Pokemon that has a really good and well-rounded support movepool without the base stats, typing or ability to make use of it. This mega-evolution aims to right this issue by fixing all of those issues. Boasting solid all-around bulk, an incredible defensive typing, and an excellent ability that makes this mega evolution very difficult to chip, Mega Butterfree has a number of viable options. With moves like defog, u-turn, roost, toxic, stun spore, sleep powder, whirlwind and now stealth rock, it can act as a glue mon for many teams, with the ability to pivot in and out of many pokemon. Alternatively, thanks to it's newly found bulk, Mega Butterfree can also act as a bulky win-condition with Quiver Dance.

Mega Slowking

Oblivious / Own Tempo / Regenerator

Comatose
HP: 95
ATK: 75

45 (-30)
DEF: 80

110 (+30)
SPA: 100
SPD: 110

140 (+30)
SPE: 30

100 (+70)
BST: 490

590 (+100)
New Moves: Roar, Taunt
Overview: Comaphaze is great lmao. With a buffed speed tier and defenses, Mega Slowking can BS its way through teams with comaphase and entry hazard support using your choice of dragon tail or roar, but also manages to still be a respectable bulky wincon if cheese isn't your thing thanks to its bulk + CM + status immunity

Mega Froslass

Cursed Body / Snow Cloak

Witching Hour (ghost-type steelworker)
HP: 70
ATK: 80

82 (+2)
DEF: 70

60 (-10)
SPA: 80

155 (+55)
SPD: 70

60 (-10)
SPE: 110

153 (+43)
BST: 480

580 (+100)
New Moves: Focus Blast, Moongeist Beam
Overview: Mega Froslass can threaten bulky and more offensive teams alike thanks to its great speed tier (yes its deliberately creeping swellow) and special attack stat, as well as it's adequate movepool. 225 base power moongeist beam hits like a truck, and coverage can pick off whatever may survive it, although mega froslass still remains weak to priority. You might think moongeist beam is weird on something not called Lunala (or smeargle) but this evolution is somewhat night themed so consider it as an emissary / servant of Lunala or something like that

 

[Scoopapa]

Mega Butterfree

Type:

Ability: Shadow Shield
HP: 60
Atk: 45
Def: 50 > 80
SpA: 90 > 105
SpD: 80 > 90
Spe: 70 > 105

Additional moves: Tail Glow, Will-o-Wisp

Competitive: Butterfree has severe problems with both power and coverage if it wants to survive in OU. Bug / Ghost type helps out significantly as STAB Shadow Ball gives it a solid backup move to Bug Buzz that frees room for setup, status, or recovery. Tail Glow is the final piece to make this a solid OU threat, allowing you to get wallbreaking power that would frankly take too long with QD. Of course, Butterfree's bulk is also terrible and so Shadow Shield is there to help you nab a turn of setup if you can keep rocks away. Will-o-wisp is there for flavor; I just like the idea of a Bug/Ghost mon that wields Sleep Powder and Wisp. Far more likely than double status is double dance with the two best setup moves in the game and solid two move coverage.

Mega Froslass

Type:

Ability: Snow Warning
HP: 70
Atk: 80
Def: 70 > 100
SpA: 80 > 110
SpD: 70 > 90
Spe: 110 > 130

Additional moves: Parting Shot, Healing Wish

Competitive: This aims to preserve Froslass' role as a fast, annoying, supporter. "Guaranteed 2 layers of spikes" is not really realistic with Ice typing and no Sash, but this can get a nearly guaranteed Aurora Veil + 1 layer of spikes. Aurora Veil also combos nicely with Parting Shot and Healing Wish. With these tools Mega Froslass would be a nice support mon for a HO team.

Mega Slowking

Type:

Ability: Berserk
HP: 95
Atk: 75 > 90
Def: 80
SpA: 100 > 180
SpD: 110 > 130
Spe: 30 > 15

Additional Moves: Hydro Pump

Mega Slowbro was built to be a Calm Mind sweeper, getting a massive boost to Defense and an ability to that prevents it from getting critted while it takes multiple turns to set up. Slowking gets Nasty Plot and Trick Room, so it is more likely to do a one or two turn setup, and this Mega Slowking is built for that. Berserk is to hopefully gain a boost on the turn you set up Trick Room, 15 Speed is to ensure you can outspeed Ferrothorn under Trick Room, and of course 180 SpA is for sweeping power. Trick Room 3 attacks can sweep a significant portion of the metagame if you get a Berserk boost and Trick Room setup, being stopped mostly by Water-types that resist Psyshock such as Greninja.