I find Magic's read on Flyhn and bonerman interesting. I disagree, but it's definitely something I want to look at more.
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NOC Why Is There A Gun In My Popcorn? 2: Old Country Boogaloo [GAME OVER Town Wins]
- Thread starter Panic Station
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i guess me forgetting game existed has put me in a pretty bad spot. Did some backreading and kinda feels like people are pushing the notion of a scum being in the inactives, which is understandable as a standalone, but toni never posts regardless of alignment. Whenevers he's scum, his lynch is always avoided by "its bad to waste time policying", which I don't see now, which makes me believe he's town.
If I get the gun I'm shooting you, I appreciate the amount of effort you've put into this but I also trust you to win the game for me if I'm wrong
literally what
Too many scum have died in succession for there not to be opportunistic bussing, if their intent was to let two scum members die then they're inexperienced or accepting this loss without any grace. I can see Duskfall shitfaced yucking it up with a mate spamming that he's scum when in his previous games, drunk or not, he was much more careful and attentive to what type of reads he's made. It could be the setup changing that but surefire reads like that read in a way TMI.
When it comes to you? I just want you to be town and there's no other way to prove that besides a bullet, trust me I'd think about it harder if we didn't have wriggle room.
Jordan in general hasn't gotten any better and I think he's too aggressive on stances that don't have any place. I imagine he adapted this mentality because he wanted to seem heated up from the lack of enthusiasm he actually has (hint: not being town tends to make you less interested in what town is doing). It's also just weird from a pure tonal standpoint based on my experience.
Samoyed keeps eluding me, maybe I could be missing the deepwolf. Who knows. I feel like Jordan if he flips scum spews that idea because scum who aren't caught up want quick points to seem like big thinkers, and that's all I saw really. Saying 'I see that people think scum are mostly in the inactives' without offering further insight on who they could be besides a defense of toni rings hollow. I get it, not everyone shows their hand immediately and there's nuance but dunno. I think if I refer back to DS, that one of WaterLily3/Jordan is the bait there, but I said I wouldn't entirely base my arguments on a dead scums readlist so I digress.
The bussing was most likely DS on Clarinet - keep in mind Clarinet blew up on DS to distance them further. I don't think scum anticipated DS dying so early. Also, bussing doesn't have to happen for scum to die here since we don't need wagons to lynch people, so I think Dusk subbing in to catch hal was just dumb luck.
Your tone sounds weirdly resigned suddenly which bugs me as a reaction to a case tbh. Do you have thoughts on Fenrir and AG? Besides Jordan, where would you look for scum if not looking for a deepwolf?
Your tone sounds weirdly resigned suddenly which bugs me as a reaction to a case tbh. Do you have thoughts on Fenrir and AG? Besides Jordan, where would you look for scum if not looking for a deepwolf?
Longcon works in this game, I would expect it more honestly. Mislynches are a leverage because in normal voting you can slot yourself inbetween some misguided townies and claim innocence. Sure, there's powerwolfing but let's be realistic-- most powerwolfing is either an attempt to dissuade a town who are in the right direction or ensuing chaos.
I'm not saying scum can't suggest to shoot a townie, but in a popcorn game a lone scum member can make it to the finish line or keep avoiding shots under the impression they're town. I don't see scum giving up the opportunity to blame a mate or even direct a shot if that makes them look good, because it's not a collaborative effort by the team to push bad wagons or mislynches, rather make sure one of them outlasts town. There's probably one of You (Magic)/Samoyed/Duskfall who fits that description for me, and I'd rather we figure that out now instead of later, because I think scum are relying on town to keep firing in inactives at this rate as there's bound to just be some uninterested townies waiting to be shot (see: Moody now have the gun).
I'm not saying scum can't suggest to shoot a townie, but in a popcorn game a lone scum member can make it to the finish line or keep avoiding shots under the impression they're town. I don't see scum giving up the opportunity to blame a mate or even direct a shot if that makes them look good, because it's not a collaborative effort by the team to push bad wagons or mislynches, rather make sure one of them outlasts town. There's probably one of You (Magic)/Samoyed/Duskfall who fits that description for me, and I'd rather we figure that out now instead of later, because I think scum are relying on town to keep firing in inactives at this rate as there's bound to just be some uninterested townies waiting to be shot (see: Moody now have the gun).
I don't think they did either but now they're saving face. Call it a potshot theory but it's how I feel. Fenrir/AG? Fenrir over AG if I'm going off gut. I know what I said about AG and how shitting out statistics is bs and not a ground to be townread, but at the least he's kept up with statistics. Do I think those statistics are beneficial or townie? Nah, not really, but I think he's at least putting in some effort to have credibility, meanwhile Fenrir is basically frozen. It's the type of Frozen that I don't really fits a type of player who comes off so hot and then just simmers in the background, it's not like the content being produced is that profound or hard to read, therefore I don't know what he's waiting for to get back into the game. Agree?
in popcorn though it’s advantadgeos for scum to lurk because generally more active people tend to be the ones that get shot (see: everyone except moody so far)
I think theres definitely a scum in there left but now that moody is resolved I’m willing to save that for lategame? I don’t feel there’s more than one scum lurking so I’m confident that we can POE them later
I think theres definitely a scum in there left but now that moody is resolved I’m willing to save that for lategame? I don’t feel there’s more than one scum lurking so I’m confident that we can POE them later
I think it's a player tell and not an alignment tell, because he did this as Kamina as well. The best case I see for him being scum is that he touched on scum!Clarinet after Clarinet had gained traction but didn't stick around to push it, but I'm not sure how strong that is. I do agree he's more likely to be scum than AG.
Samoyed, what are your thoughts on the possibility of boney deepwolf? Who do you prefer shooting if not the lurkers?
In terms of other people..I'm not as certain. My mind is gravitating towards sorting you 3 out before I start worry about guess-checking on players who don't have indicative tells or content. Toni is only guilty of being inactive but it's not the same as Jordan I think. I think Flyhn's content is fakeable but he's a lesser evil who eventually runs out of summaries to make in the fashion he has.
Surprisingly, the "inactive" slots have mostly been replaced. I've glossed over Texas' posts but he certainly isn't fully inactive.
Surprisingly, the "inactive" slots have mostly been replaced. I've glossed over Texas' posts but he certainly isn't fully inactive.
I will be extremely low activity until next Monday
If I check the game and I have a gun I will shoot Toni
Or Dusk
i don’t see it rn
id shoot AG here actuslly
or waterlily
seems like cheating though shooting when they’re away
Hey, has moody even spoken today?
Gunbearer should drive talks more than this.
Gunbearer should drive talks more than this.
Why are people doubting the fact I can correctly read people? You know I'm a decent player right? Suggesting me as a shit is gamethrowing paranoia
Shot* lol
I told you I'd be afk you clowns