They're apparently finally giving it Protect and Rest, which will help a ton in stalling out Slow Start. They also gave it Body Press, though given how Body Press interacts with stuff like Choice Band, Huge Power, and burn, I doubt it's able to dodge Slow Start.
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I might have this wrong but doesn't Choice Band kinda act wonky with Body Press, still buffing it despite it going off of Def. rather than Atk? Giving Regigigas getting protect could end up being a bit of saving grace, though I agree there isn't really enough there for it to overcome Slow Start, unfortunately.
Yeah. From my understanding, Body Press works by taking your raw Defense stat and direct Defense changes (from things like Iron Defense and Screech) and then temporary replacing your Attack stat with that value. After that, it behaves like a regular physical attack.
True story: The one in Platinum once rented me a shiny Hippowdon, and I loved him so much I spent the next month breeding a real one.
So that'd be a "Yes." =P
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It might be technically possible that it gets a Hidden Ability. Come on Gamefreak give it Pressure or something. My man Gigas as been slow starting for 13 years, it's time to wake up.
I still think it's more likely to get a gigamax or alternate form than that.
....Gigamax with Slow Start seems something pretty awful though... unless the gigamax attack unique effect ends up basically ignoring slow start itself
Regigigas getting a "normal" ability would need to be offset by lowering its stats, most likely.
Anything above 600 with no caveat is their "no-go" zone.
See also:
-Mega pokemon (require an item slot, only allowed once per match)
-Wishiwashi (620 power...when transformed, which you can lose by taking too much damage)
-Ash Greninja (640 power, when transformed, which requires getting a knock out first.....'course this one is banned anyway)
-Slaking (670, Truant means it can only attack every other turn)
Meanwhile everyone that just natively has above 600 is just straight up banned.
If it did get a new ability it would likely just go with a different gimmick.
Anything above 600 with no caveat is their "no-go" zone.
See also:
-Mega pokemon (require an item slot, only allowed once per match)
-Wishiwashi (620 power...when transformed, which you can lose by taking too much damage)
-Ash Greninja (640 power, when transformed, which requires getting a knock out first.....'course this one is banned anyway)
-Slaking (670, Truant means it can only attack every other turn)
Meanwhile everyone that just natively has above 600 is just straight up banned.
If it did get a new ability it would likely just go with a different gimmick.
That would be the most likely outcome, but then that would only really be a band-aid fix since that would require wasting your g-max just to bypass slow start, meaning you'd end up having to more or less base your team around giving gigas a safe opportunity to g-max
If it had an alt form wouldn't the leaks reveal it though? Fair point about Gigantomax that does make sense. G-Kingler gives the opponents -2 speed so maybe Gigas's G-max could boost speed and attack one stage or something.
Knowing Gamefreak they won't change anything and Gigas will be given to us after a 10 minute fetch quest.
Unlike those Pokemon Regigigas is a legendary. I don't see why it even needs a nerf.
Because it's a legal legendary
Every single legal legendary is at or below 600 except Regigas, who is 670, and has an ability that halves its stats for 5 turns or requires a team mate to remove, keeping it in the legal pool.
if you are natively above 600 and have no caveat, you're banned. They dont want to ban Regigigas, so if it ever got a new ability, it would need to either be a different kind of caveat or nerf its stats
No particular reason they couldn't change this, especially if a Slow Start-less Regigigas is counted as a different form a la Battle Bond Greninja (which was VGC banned if I recall rightly). If they did have a new ability Regigigas, I'd guess this would be the likely implementation, to make getting the new ability more complicated than "use an Ability Patch".
I can easily imagine they might have a "fully powered" Regigigas form, requiring you to bring all five other Regis to activate it and either having a less crippling gimmick or maybe even having a beneficial ability balanced for fighting other box legends.
Nah. We don't have any leaks about other Galarian forms, or about any of the unrevealed Pokemon.
Right, that's what I mean by
Some intersection of form/stats/abilitiy/item.
Yeah the only reason we know about
the horses is because they have codenames in the pokedex listings and we know about calyrex's forms from remnants of item data and such
The leaks are mainly leftover data in the Home app. There's no actual data for new forms of known pokemon (es, nothing about galar birds), so since Regigigas isn't yet in the game, there's tecnically no confirm nor deny that he doesn't have a new form or ability.
Not saying it means it *does* have one, just saying either options are possible.
Eeeh, a Gigamax is a sufficent caveaut. It requires investing the actual gigamax + it's limited to 3 turns. I could tecnically see a "self mold-breaker normal G-max move".
Obviously this isn't happening, but if it would, it'd still make Regigigas questionable-at-best as pokemon. It's basically comparable to just siding him with Galar Weezing.
Sure that'd work too since you'd need to use the g-max then you get to use a move that ignores your ability then you come out of it
Technically, its strongest move is Mega Kick (if I remember the datamine correctly). It's not the most consistent move, but it does hit like a freight train carrying a shipment of trucks.
Fun fact: Battle Bond can not be passed down, which may be why it was banned from VGC considering Own Temp Rockruff (which can be passed down) and Dusk Lycanroc (which requires/required Own Tempo Rockruff in addition to the 1 IRL hour timeframe you have to get it) were allowed despite otherwise being similar to Battle Bond Greninja.
Doesn't it also have Crush Grip? Not too bad if your opponent is at full HP or close to it. Then again, Wring Out got snapped.
Sure but I guess my point is if you have to pick between Mega Kick and Crush Grip for your STAB moves you aren't in the greatest place in terms of consistency. Past that you're looking at... what... Facade, Giga Impact, and Body Slam. So it doesn't have good STAB move options unless you want to risk Mega Kick (Which is only 16% stronger than Urshifu CC) or sacrifice power for Body Slam. Additionally besides EQ, Superpower, and Knock Off its coverage moves aren't very strong (elemental punches, zen headbutt, iron head, and I guess Drain Punch). Additionally a lot of those moves are transfer only and thus not VGC legal.
Compare it to other VGC staples and "weak ability" Regigigas probably wouldn't be too overpowered. They could even give it something like Klutz if they're really scared.
Honestly its moveset holds it back hard enough that even if it had a "neutral" ability like, say, Pressure or Clear Body, it would still be a fringe pick at best.
Mononormal bulky attackers aren't exactly in high demand, only reason Snorlax was used was cause Belly Drum, and Porygon-Z happens to have nuclear boosted stabs while dynamaxed off 135 spatk and adaptability.
Even without the detrimental ability, I have a hard time seeing Regigigas having much place in VGC.
In BSS maaaaybe, but again, it's a maybe, getting pretty much hardwalled by ghost types isn't exactly nice.
Agreed although it gets Knock Off to hit ghosts. It gets it through level-up surprisingly so it would still be VGC legal.
I think I've heard tale of someone using it as a Support mon in a previous generation since it gets Knock Off, Speed control, and Wide Guard, but that likely was either speculation or as a meme. Especially since it seems like it would definitely be a meme.
Think it would be this. Normal-type G-Max Move which effect is cancelling out Abilities (or at least ones Neutralizing Gas disables) for all Pokemon on the field (that way it's not just effecting Regigigas).
Well if Regigigas does get a Gigantamax with such a G-Max honestly that would be the only reason you'd have it on your team. As R_N said, if they gave Regigigas another Ability it would be another negative Ability which at that point why bother? Just work around the negative Ability it got.
Remember, however, that Regigigas has 100 base speed and 160 base attack (paired with great-albeit-low BP attacking coverage, Knock+Slam alone is pretty solid though) which alongside phenomenal bulk makes it another league above stuff like Snorlax (slow, exploitable physdef, 50 less attack) or Porygon-Z (slower and frailer, but stronger STAB).
This thing has incredible stats, I think it would at least see usage with an neutral ability like Clear Body. If the low BP moves are really a concern just think of it as base 110 attack with strong attacks lol