This is the generation where Terrakion uses both Close Combat and Earthquake in the same move set (because Toxapex is that much of a pain).
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SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword and Shield Datamine Thread
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Can't imagine they'd give any move a 30% chance to freeze.
The more I think about it, the more I begin to wonder...
Are the new birds really short on coverage? Especially compared to the old birds?
Outside of stuff like Solar Beam and Extrasensory, the original trio was never exactly renowned for its diverse array of attack options. Zapdos was blessed with Heat Wave, but here we have Zapdos-G given Blaze Kick to match. Roost notwithstanding, the new birds are pretty evenly stacked.
Are the new birds really short on coverage? Especially compared to the old birds?
Outside of stuff like Solar Beam and Extrasensory, the original trio was never exactly renowned for its diverse array of attack options. Zapdos was blessed with Heat Wave, but here we have Zapdos-G given Blaze Kick to match. Roost notwithstanding, the new birds are pretty evenly stacked.
In Zapdos' case he also has CC STAB now, in addition to defiant as an ability...so it sort of offsets not having roost. He's clearly going to have a different role. Articuno seems so much better now (although psychic/flying isn't great). He has psychic with a freeze chance and his stats aren't garbage for once.
Moltres probably doesnt have roost so it cant abuse Beserk; if it had it, it'd be able to heal up and get +1 every turn until it was plus 6 and then just dominate from there.
I'd argue OG Articuno didn't have garbage stats, so much as the typing just counteracting what bulk it had. 90/100/125 was good bulk, and arguably still is. 95 special attack isn't great, but it's just enough to be OK. But Ice is such an awful typing that it undoes all of that. Especially since it would just take half its hp on switching in during previous gens thanks to rocks.
And yet Drampa was allowed to have Berserk + Roost in Gen 7, and I don't remember it being particularly dominating.
I'm anchored anymore in the CAP meta, by the way, and there the gold standard is a little bugger called Tomohawk: Flying/Fighting with Intimidate.
Competitive Articuno-G will have a minor place there as the tidiest way to keep him off of the battlefield.
Drampa is significantly slower, and is less bulky. Gotta take the stats into account.
I still don't think it would have been too strong.
I'm inclined to agree, but I just didn't like bringing a pokemon like Drampa as a comparison point.
I can confirm the other signature items can be obtained from the guy in Stow-in-Side. I just got the Lustrous Orb and Reveal Glass from him.
Drampa was also way slower, Moltres has a respectable speed stat and pretty good bulk to boot.
Lets put it this way: If you are slower than moltres and cant kill it, The moltres will heal up until you switch or its gets +2 or higher and then just starts punching holes in your squad. And considering it can boost its speed as well...
Kinda disappointed none of the Galarian birds learn Defog.
Has anyone found out how to start hunting for ultra beast yet?
So which mon will be preferred in ou, g-zapdos or k-zapdos? I feel like kanto zap will still be more used now that it has hurricane and weather ball.
Both will be great in OU but I think Kanto Zapdos will be more versatile due to Roost allowing it to run both offensive and defensive sets.
Was looking at all this stuff and noticed some things, here's my 2 cents:
ELON MUSK'S WET DREAM, AKA REGIELEKI:
First 21 seconds is my line of thoughts.
Sure this guy is fast, and I mean fast as fucc.
And has a super ability in Transistor, so that it can fry enemies.
But that's it - its coverage is laughable and consists of Normal-type moves, Assurance, 2 Flying-type physical attacks and Ancient Power.
100 SpA is not bas but neither it's excellent, and I wouldn't go for a physical Regieleki.
The only thing it can do is enter the field, hope the opponent has no Ground/LRod mons, and press TBolt. Gg
WHAT IF CHARIZARD COULDN'T SWALLOW THAT BIG DOTTED BALL? - UNDER THE NAME OF REGIDRAGO:
"tHiS iSn'T eVeN mY fInAl FoRm!!!1!"
Regigigas: "Uhm. Yes it is."
Well, nice to have a slightly better, Dragon-type Wailord. Regidrago has exactly 10 to 30 points more per stats than our godly whale. +30 HP, +10 attacks, +15 defenses and +20 Spe.
Fact is - Wailord sucks. And Regidrago too.
Dragon's Maw working as Transistor for Dragon-type moves is nice, not gonna lie. 80 Spe is good too, maybe 100 would have been better but eh
THE THING BORN WHEN A MUDSDALE TRIED TO F*CK AN ICEBERG OR VICE VERSA, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS GLASTIER (SEE THE JOKE WITH GLACIER, EH EH?)
GameFreak's policy on Ice-types is a big, fat middle finger in the face.
Limited to SwSh, we had a slightly faster, tiptapping Mr. Mime, and his older and fat brother Mr. Rime.
Then we had Frosmoth, with Quiver Dance and Ice Scales (yey!) but 65 Spe and no Def (nay!), basically a frozen Volcarona.
Then the Harambe gang came along and there was an abominable afro Darmanitan, so focus on bloodshed that he forgot 3 other moveslots. Or the pyro-snowman, but that's another story.
And then, they decided to give a strong Ice-type for a tundra-themed DLC. Ok
The thing has a titanic Atk and great bulk, a superb STAB when a Brussels sprout rides it, everything is happy for Ice-types. And then BAM - 30 and 50 Spe. Goddammit
LITERALLY A WINGLESS MLP x THESTRAL, OR AS A FRIEND OF MINE CALLED IT "A SAD AND DULL GALARIAN RAPIDASH"
Spectrier is what we needed in order to shit our pants on halloween night: a item free, 130-speed Chandelure that can host the same Brussels sprout and go even faster ans hit even harder with a 165 SpA 120 BP STAB.
Sure Sucker Punch is gonna send this melancholic creature in doomsland, but otherwise - how can you exactly stop it from rampaging?
THE STRANGE FRIEND OF OURS THAT ALWAYS WEAR THE HOOD ON THE EYELINE, AKA GALARIAN SLOWKING
Maybe Slowqueen this time, that is too much eyeliner.
Slowking-G is fine, I agree with the boys praising the +10 SpA from Atk on a thing weak to Foul Play (Def would have been even better but it's GF we are talking about)
ELON MUSK'S WET DREAM, AKA REGIELEKI:
First 21 seconds is my line of thoughts.
Sure this guy is fast, and I mean fast as fucc.
And has a super ability in Transistor, so that it can fry enemies.
But that's it - its coverage is laughable and consists of Normal-type moves, Assurance, 2 Flying-type physical attacks and Ancient Power.
100 SpA is not bas but neither it's excellent, and I wouldn't go for a physical Regieleki.
The only thing it can do is enter the field, hope the opponent has no Ground/LRod mons, and press TBolt. Gg
WHAT IF CHARIZARD COULDN'T SWALLOW THAT BIG DOTTED BALL? - UNDER THE NAME OF REGIDRAGO:
"tHiS iSn'T eVeN mY fInAl FoRm!!!1!"
Regigigas: "Uhm. Yes it is."
Well, nice to have a slightly better, Dragon-type Wailord. Regidrago has exactly 10 to 30 points more per stats than our godly whale. +30 HP, +10 attacks, +15 defenses and +20 Spe.
Fact is - Wailord sucks. And Regidrago too.
Dragon's Maw working as Transistor for Dragon-type moves is nice, not gonna lie. 80 Spe is good too, maybe 100 would have been better but eh
THE THING BORN WHEN A MUDSDALE TRIED TO F*CK AN ICEBERG OR VICE VERSA, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS GLASTIER (SEE THE JOKE WITH GLACIER, EH EH?)
GameFreak's policy on Ice-types is a big, fat middle finger in the face.
Limited to SwSh, we had a slightly faster, tiptapping Mr. Mime, and his older and fat brother Mr. Rime.
Then we had Frosmoth, with Quiver Dance and Ice Scales (yey!) but 65 Spe and no Def (nay!), basically a frozen Volcarona.
Then the Harambe gang came along and there was an abominable afro Darmanitan, so focus on bloodshed that he forgot 3 other moveslots. Or the pyro-snowman, but that's another story.
And then, they decided to give a strong Ice-type for a tundra-themed DLC. Ok
The thing has a titanic Atk and great bulk, a superb STAB when a Brussels sprout rides it, everything is happy for Ice-types. And then BAM - 30 and 50 Spe. Goddammit
LITERALLY A WINGLESS MLP x THESTRAL, OR AS A FRIEND OF MINE CALLED IT "A SAD AND DULL GALARIAN RAPIDASH"
Spectrier is what we needed in order to shit our pants on halloween night: a item free, 130-speed Chandelure that can host the same Brussels sprout and go even faster ans hit even harder with a 165 SpA 120 BP STAB.
Sure Sucker Punch is gonna send this melancholic creature in doomsland, but otherwise - how can you exactly stop it from rampaging?
THE STRANGE FRIEND OF OURS THAT ALWAYS WEAR THE HOOD ON THE EYELINE, AKA GALARIAN SLOWKING
Maybe Slowqueen this time, that is too much eyeliner.
Slowking-G is fine, I agree with the boys praising the +10 SpA from Atk on a thing weak to Foul Play (Def would have been even better but it's GF we are talking about)
UBs are found in Dynamax Adventures, just like the legends
Reports in this thread say the tree cutscene. I have not tested it myself.
Stopping it from rampaging is simple. Just plop literally any Normal or Dark type in front of it.