he forgot to specify "a few bad players"Not even mentioning the whole TED talk by me, the Whimsicott virtuoso himself. Wow Quote, very disappointed.
he forgot to specify "a few bad players"Not even mentioning the whole TED talk by me, the Whimsicott virtuoso himself. Wow Quote, very disappointed.
Krookodile |
Cobalion |
Kingdra |
Tornadus |
Amoonguss |
Charizard |
Espeon |
Shaymin |
Yeah sleep is broken dude but so is pressure I was gonna wait until classic is over. Sleep candidates are more or less Ursa jumpluff venu and whatever i can't think of. Pressure is fairly ridiculous as well. My plan is to set up a proper 5 person council and have a vote on the stuff I mentioned. Can't wait to fix the heatest meta of them allok after this classic i have gathered sleep is broken in adv and should be banned.
the meta is slow. there's no scarf and the meta just got a lot faster in dpp. my main issue is fast sleep mons like jumpluff and jynx. you don't have reliable counterplay, period. i don't want the meta to start warping around sleep and have every mon run lum or something stupid like that. people aren't really totally on the sleep train yet but jumpluff and jynx are mad good because most of the meta is v slow and all you need as teammates is just like a raikou check. sleep + brightpowder is really good odds (Felucia can back me up on this) a lot of the time and especially when u consider that adv relies on weak moves so they can't instantly punish a miss often unlike later gens. oh yeah, and it's also 2-5 turns!!!
replays:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/rom-gen31v1-696102-6lty9wa6xubrywu7nasroe7c55xt0bcpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen31v1-1011511715 (not a bad team by synon whatsoever he just didn't have any absurdly fast mons so there's nothing he could have done besides dodge, but brightpowder is nasty anyways)
neomon i suggest u get some sort of vote asap
i built every team kardistry king used and he got to finals so i feel like i know the meta well (got to semis last yr as well). might drop more observations and stuff of the meta and neo if u want to hit me up on touching up the vr i'm down
You don't have to do this. Meta changes get implemented during tournaments after different rounds. We already did this with the sand veil unban.I was gonna wait until classic is over
I'm not comparing the magnitude of a technical Sand Veil unban to a meta-defining shift, simply the fact that, if he chose to, he would not have to wait for a specific tournament to end. A less developed metagame is far more desirable to have a tournament in than a completely dysfunctional one, and there are 3 other Old Gens whose stability would be preserved, so the entire tournament wouldn't be shaken up if Pressure/Sleep is banned. It has been done in the past for more official tournaments as well (https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/grand-slam-viii-administrative-decisions.3650925/#post-8173038 (Linoone ban + tier shifts)), and the tournaments with the tiers involved have coped.The sand veil unban was a technicality and is nothing like sleep/pressure, i think he knows he can change it but not fucking with the tour midtour is desirable. Sleep probably wouldnt be that big of a deal but idk what you plan to do about pressure that would be!
having almost all ur teams become illegal is fun before playoffsYou don't have to do this. Meta changes get implemented during tournaments after different rounds. We already did this with the sand veil unban.
Like, y'all can be unbanning or banning whatever, regardless of tournaments taking place, for any tournament in general (assuming you are good council people xd). The health of the metagame comes before any one tournament.
Hmu if you're looking to develop these metas. Been wanting to get these going anyway because of tours getting hosted in RoA.Just saying that I'd love to take on a leadership role for GSC 1v1. I've honestly wanted to get back into 1v1 old gens for a while but didn't really know where to start.
And if we really wanna go all the way, what about RBY 1v1? Could be a bit too niche even for our standards but may as well be comprehensive.
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Charizard | 110 | 20.07% | 50.91% |
| 2 | Mawile | 86 | 15.69% | 59.30% |
| 3 | Metagross | 81 | 14.78% | 50.62% |
| 4 | Kyurem-Black | 80 | 14.60% | 56.25% |
| 5 | Greninja | 69 | 12.59% | 43.48% |
| 6 | Sableye | 54 | 9.85% | 57.41% |
| 7 | Heatran | 53 | 9.67% | 52.83% |
| 8 | Porygon-Z | 46 | 8.39% | 36.96% |
| 9 | Azumarill | 44 | 8.03% | 56.82% |
| 9 | Garchomp | 44 | 8.03% | 38.64% |
| 11 | Tyranitar | 43 | 7.85% | 41.86% |
| 11 | Gyarados | 43 | 7.85% | 39.53% |
| 13 | Diancie | 40 | 7.30% | 52.50% |
| 14 | Gardevoir | 38 | 6.93% | 44.74% |
| 15 | Venusaur | 37 | 6.75% | 43.24% |
| 16 | Dragonite | 36 | 6.57% | 47.22% |
| 17 | Genesect | 35 | 6.39% | 37.14% |
| 18 | Lopunny | 33 | 6.02% | 63.64% |
| 19 | Victini | 29 | 5.29% | 72.41% |
| 19 | Whimsicott | 29 | 5.29% | 27.59% |
| 21 | Meloetta | 25 | 4.56% | 64.00% |
| 22 | Slowbro | 23 | 4.20% | 34.78% |
| 23 | Serperior | 21 | 3.83% | 76.19% |
| 23 | Hoopa-Unbound | 21 | 3.83% | 23.81% |
| 25 | Altaria | 20 | 3.65% | 35.00% |
| 26 | Manectric | 19 | 3.47% | 42.11% |
| 27 | Medicham | 17 | 3.10% | 76.47% |
| 27 | Terrakion | 17 | 3.10% | 64.71% |
| 29 | Mew | 15 | 2.74% | 46.67% |
| 30 | Sawk | 14 | 2.55% | 71.43% |
| 30 | Volcanion | 14 | 2.55% | 42.86% |
| 32 | Latias | 13 | 2.37% | 76.92% |
| 32 | Aegislash | 13 | 2.37% | 76.92% |
| 32 | Talonflame | 13 | 2.37% | 38.46% |
| 32 | Heracross | 13 | 2.37% | 23.08% |
| 32 | Jirachi | 13 | 2.37% | 23.08% |
| 37 | Torterra | 12 | 2.19% | 75.00% |
| 38 | Ampharos | 11 | 2.01% | 63.64% |
| 38 | Snorlax | 11 | 2.01% | 63.64% |
| 38 | Volcarona | 11 | 2.01% | 54.55% |
| 41 | Empoleon | 10 | 1.82% | 80.00% |
| 41 | Sylveon | 10 | 1.82% | 60.00% |
| 41 | Porygon2 | 10 | 1.82% | 30.00% |
| 44 | Jumpluff | 9 | 1.64% | 33.33% |
| 45 | Emboar | 8 | 1.46% | 87.50% |
| 45 | Latios | 8 | 1.46% | 75.00% |
| 45 | Registeel | 8 | 1.46% | 50.00% |
| 45 | Togekiss | 8 | 1.46% | 37.50% |
| 45 | Pinsir | 8 | 1.46% | 37.50% |
| 45 | Riolu | 8 | 1.46% | 25.00% |
| 51 | Hydreigon | 7 | 1.28% | 71.43% |
| 51 | Haxorus | 7 | 1.28% | 57.14% |
| 51 | Swampert | 7 | 1.28% | 42.86% |
| 51 | Banette | 7 | 1.28% | 42.86% |
| 51 | Magnezone | 7 | 1.28% | 28.57% |
| 56 | Clefable | 6 | 1.09% | 66.67% |
| 56 | Tornadus-Therian | 6 | 1.09% | 66.67% |
| 56 | Chansey | 6 | 1.09% | 50.00% |
| 56 | Camerupt | 6 | 1.09% | 50.00% |
| 56 | Manaphy | 6 | 1.09% | 33.33% |
| 56 | Chandelure | 6 | 1.09% | 33.33% |
| 56 | Donphan | 6 | 1.09% | 33.33% |
| 56 | Aggron | 6 | 1.09% | 0.00% |
| 64 | Ferrothorn | 5 | 0.91% | 40.00% |
| 64 | Rotom-Mow | 5 | 0.91% | 40.00% |
| 64 | Landorus-Therian | 5 | 0.91% | 40.00% |
| 64 | Blissey | 5 | 0.91% | 20.00% |
| 64 | Landorus | 5 | 0.91% | 20.00% |
| 69 | Archeops | 4 | 0.73% | 75.00% |
| 69 | Hawlucha | 4 | 0.73% | 75.00% |
| 69 | Thundurus | 4 | 0.73% | 50.00% |
| 69 | Mamoswine | 4 | 0.73% | 25.00% |
| 73 | Pidgeot | 3 | 0.55% | 100.00% |
| 73 | Yanma | 3 | 0.55% | 100.00% |
| 73 | Kecleon | 3 | 0.55% | 100.00% |
| 73 | Vespiquen | 3 | 0.55% | 100.00% |
| 73 | Pangoro | 3 | 0.55% | 100.00% |
| 73 | Salamence | 3 | 0.55% | 100.00% |
| 73 | Umbreon | 3 | 0.55% | 100.00% |
| 73 | Durant | 3 | 0.55% | 66.67% |
| 73 | Rhyperior | 3 | 0.55% | 33.33% |
| 73 | Krookodile | 3 | 0.55% | 33.33% |
| 83 | Gallade | 2 | 0.36% | 100.00% |
| 83 | Avalugg | 2 | 0.36% | 100.00% |
| 83 | Jynx | 2 | 0.36% | 100.00% |
| 83 | Infernape | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 83 | Gengar | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 83 | Blastoise | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 83 | Surskit | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 83 | Rotom-Wash | 2 | 0.36% | 0.00% |
| 83 | Scolipede | 2 | 0.36% | 0.00% |
| 83 | Keldeo | 2 | 0.36% | 0.00% |
| 83 | Alakazam | 2 | 0.36% | 0.00% |
| 83 | Cobalion | 2 | 0.36% | 0.00% |
| 83 | Toxicroak | 2 | 0.36% | 0.00% |
| 83 | Cottonee | 2 | 0.36% | 0.00% |
| 83 | Tangrowth | 2 | 0.36% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Diggersby | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 98 | Sliggoo | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 98 | Articuno | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 98 | Rotom-Heat | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 98 | Tangela | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 98 | Reuniclus | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 98 | Scizor | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 98 | Tentacruel | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 98 | Aerodactyl | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 98 | Slurpuff | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Deoxys-Speed | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Tyrantrum | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Espeon | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Conkeldurr | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Hitmonlee | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Entei | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Sceptile | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Crustle | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Azelf | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Beedrill | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Machamp | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Murkrow | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 98 | Gigalith | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
+ ---- + ----------------------- + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Leads | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ----------------------- + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Mawile | 38 | 6.93% | 63.16% |
| 2 | Charizard | 37 | 6.75% | 40.54% |
| 3 | Kyurem-Black | 29 | 5.29% | 44.83% |
| 4 | Metagross | 27 | 4.93% | 62.96% |
| 5 | Greninja | 25 | 4.56% | 48.00% |
| 5 | Heatran | 25 | 4.56% | 44.00% |
| 7 | Sableye | 24 | 4.38% | 70.83% |
| 8 | Azumarill | 22 | 4.01% | 50.00% |
| 9 | Porygon-Z | 18 | 3.28% | 11.11% |
| 10 | Diancie | 16 | 2.92% | 62.50% |
| 11 | Tyranitar | 13 | 2.37% | 46.15% |
| 12 | Dragonite | 12 | 2.19% | 50.00% |
| 12 | Slowbro | 12 | 2.19% | 41.67% |
| 14 | Victini | 11 | 2.01% | 81.82% |
| 14 | Meloetta | 11 | 2.01% | 63.64% |
| 14 | Whimsicott | 11 | 2.01% | 9.09% |
| 17 | Volcanion | 10 | 1.82% | 50.00% |
| 17 | Gardevoir | 10 | 1.82% | 40.00% |
| 17 | Garchomp | 10 | 1.82% | 30.00% |
| 20 | Venusaur | 9 | 1.64% | 55.56% |
| 21 | Aegislash | 8 | 1.46% | 87.50% |
| 22 | Serperior | 7 | 1.28% | 71.43% |
| 22 | Gyarados | 7 | 1.28% | 57.14% |
| 22 | Terrakion | 7 | 1.28% | 57.14% |
| 22 | Medicham | 7 | 1.28% | 42.86% |
| 22 | Mew | 7 | 1.28% | 28.57% |
| 22 | Jirachi | 7 | 1.28% | 28.57% |
| 28 | Empoleon | 6 | 1.09% | 100.00% |
| 29 | Emboar | 5 | 0.91% | 80.00% |
| 29 | Snorlax | 5 | 0.91% | 80.00% |
| 29 | Genesect | 5 | 0.91% | 60.00% |
| 29 | Jumpluff | 5 | 0.91% | 40.00% |
| 33 | Hydreigon | 4 | 0.73% | 75.00% |
| 33 | Haxorus | 4 | 0.73% | 75.00% |
| 33 | Sylveon | 4 | 0.73% | 50.00% |
| 33 | Altaria | 4 | 0.73% | 25.00% |
| 33 | Hoopa-Unbound | 4 | 0.73% | 25.00% |
| 33 | Blissey | 4 | 0.73% | 0.00% |
| 33 | Aggron | 4 | 0.73% | 0.00% |
| 33 | Riolu | 4 | 0.73% | 0.00% |
| 41 | Ampharos | 3 | 0.55% | 66.67% |
| 41 | Registeel | 3 | 0.55% | 66.67% |
| 41 | Lopunny | 3 | 0.55% | 33.33% |
| 41 | Landorus-Therian | 3 | 0.55% | 33.33% |
| 41 | Heracross | 3 | 0.55% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Volcarona | 2 | 0.36% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Latias | 2 | 0.36% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Avalugg | 2 | 0.36% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Torterra | 2 | 0.36% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Umbreon | 2 | 0.36% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Manaphy | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Ferrothorn | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Rhyperior | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Chansey | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Togekiss | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Surskit | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Latios | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Swampert | 2 | 0.36% | 50.00% |
| 46 | Banette | 2 | 0.36% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Cobalion | 2 | 0.36% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Sawk | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 61 | Tornadus-Therian | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 61 | Jynx | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 61 | Salamence | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 61 | Krookodile | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 61 | Donphan | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 61 | Talonflame | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 61 | Thundurus | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 61 | Scizor | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 61 | Magnezone | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 61 | Archeops | 1 | 0.18% | 100.00% |
| 61 | Slurpuff | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Infernape | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Deoxys-Speed | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Tyrantrum | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Landorus | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Blastoise | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Hitmonlee | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Chandelure | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Entei | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Pinsir | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Manectric | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Durant | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Machamp | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Gigalith | 1 | 0.18% | 0.00% |