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5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

When breeding two genderless pokemon, which is male and which is female? E.g. Porygon and Ditto. I've RNG'd a Porygon before, no trouble. This time I'm having problems. I've got a foreign flawless Ditto and a 31/x/31/31/31/31 Porygon. I searched for a shiny 31/x/31/31/31/31 BW (International) Ability 1 for the Porygon and I found numerous seeds/spreads.

The problem is the seed I'm using is giving me 29/x/31/31/31/31 offspring. My starting frame is 55 (it's really 51 but I'm always 4 over) and the shiny frame I want is 79. I advance 24 I get Modest 29/x/31/31/31/31. PIDRNG of the eggs is showing that there's:

!!! | Hardy
!!! | Modest
!!! | Modest

So I figure that I need to advance 23 as I'm hitting frame 80 (the second Modest on the list). So I advance 23. Guess what I get? Yup, I get Hardy 29/x/31/31/31/31. Is this a problem with RNG Reporter? Has it showed me a wrong seed?

I've tried numerous time hitting both 23 and 24 but I still get 29/x/31/31/31/31 Hardy (for 23 advances) or Modest (for 24). Not 31/x/31/31/31/31 Modest.
 
This happens to me all the time I use International parents which is quite often. I usually just hatch/take that egg and wait and RNG the next one which never gives me any problem. And IIRC, ditto will be considered the female in that situation.
 
I've also had problems with Internation parents in the past, but that's only been when I attach the Everstone to the foreign parent (usually the Ditto). In that scenario it always seems to skip frames for some reason. It looks like it's skipping a frame in this case, too -- 23 hitting the Hardy before and 24 hitting Modest after. But the Everstone is on Porygon, so I'm confused.

I have Ditto listed as the female, so that's all good then.
 
Could I get your ID\SID, too? I'm testing out the scenario under emulator. I know we've tested breeding over and over again, but I don't remember specifically testing international breeding with Ditto+genderless Pokémon, and it never hurts to go back and retest our assumptions.
 
ID: 56139
SID: 25008

If you need anything else I have input let me know. I'm taking a break from trying now, because it's given me a headache :p

I don't know if you need the date of the seed, but it's: 11/01/11 18:19:56 (I hit 55, 1 second before).
 
I'm still going to run a quick test, but in the meantime I suggest you take up Cereza's advice and resave. It is very likely that you saved right when an NPC was about to move, and when mashing X to get to the menu, even the tiniest of split-seconds would make a difference between starting at frame 55 or frame 56.

EDIT: Yeah, confirmed. It's not a problem with RNG Reporter, it's just an NPC messing you up.
 
jones115 said:
is there some kind of problem in finding your parameters on the DSI,because i have tired countless times without getting any result's.
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You're not using English White by any chance, are you? We know some people having similar problems. It seems to work perfectly on some DSis but not on others.
 
Is the item % column for cave spots and shadow spots (On the bridges)?

I'm not sure if it is, because when I paste my seed into the main window and pick method 5 Standard seed, and make the encounter type wild pokemon cave spot, then generate, that column disappears. So what is the item % column for if it's not for cave/shadow spots?

Also, for swarm pokemon, what encounter slots do they appear on?
 
Princess of Johto said:
Is the item % column for cave spots and shadow spots (On the bridges)?

I'm not sure if it is, because when I paste my seed into the main window and pick method 5 Standard seed, and make the encounter type wild pokemon cave spot, then generate, that column disappears. So what is the item % column for if it's not for cave/shadow spots?

Also, for swarm pokemon, what encounter slots do they appear on?
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Use this for Swarm Pokémon:


Reject Monk Poop said:
Yes, so long as your target PID is there. Here's a little shortcut so you can see if your target PID will be a swarm or not:

Let's figure out swarm as a function of PID [Swarm(PID)]. First start off by reversing the order so that you can get researcher to predict Swarm for a given PID.

Code: 
6 Nature
[U]5 PID
4 ESV
3 Level
2 Swarm[/U]
1 Sync
0 Initial

Since we only care about calls 5 through 2, it becomes easier.

Code: 
Custom 1: High32   +  0	   [U]PID[/U] [Hex Checked]
Custom 2: Prev 1   +  0	   [U]Level[/U]
Custom 3: Prev 2   +  0	   [U]ESV[/U]
Custom 4: Prev 3   *  100  Swarm(A)
Custom 5: Custom 4 >> 32   [U]Swarm[/U](B)

Then collapse the columns for Custom #'s 2-4. You'll have 2 columns, PID and Swarm Decision.

If the Swarm Decision is 0-39 for your desired PID, it's a swarm encounter.
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Princess of Johto said:
Is the item % column for cave spots and shadow spots (On the bridges)?

I'm not sure if it is, because when I paste my seed into the main window and pick method 5 Standard seed, and make the encounter type wild pokemon cave spot, then generate, that column disappears. So what is the item % column for if it's not for cave/shadow spots?

Also, for swarm pokemon, what encounter slots do they appear on?
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It's not. It's not supposed to be in 9.9 or 9.91. I meant to remove that column for now and work on it later, but I guess I didn't get all of it.
 
Reject Monk Poop said:
Yes, so long as your target PID is there. Here's a little shortcut so you can see if your target PID will be a swarm or not:

Let's figure out swarm as a function of PID [Swarm(PID)]. First start off by reversing the order so that you can get researcher to predict Swarm for a given PID.

Code: 
6 Nature
[U]5 PID
4 ESV
3 Level
2 Swarm[/U]
1 Sync
0 Initial

Since we only care about calls 5 through 2, it becomes easier.

Code: 
Custom 1: High32   +  0	   [U]PID[/U] [Hex Checked]
Custom 2: Prev 1   +  0	   [U]Level[/U]
Custom 3: Prev 2   +  0	   [U]ESV[/U]
Custom 4: Prev 3   *  100  Swarm(A)
Custom 5: Custom 4 >> 32   [U]Swarm[/U](B)

Then collapse the columns for Custom #'s 2-4. You'll have 2 columns, PID and Swarm Decision.

If the Swarm Decision is 0-39 for your desired PID, it's a swarm encounter.
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What do you add into Custom slots 6 & 7 then and which "ING" mode should I be using?
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In response to above, for my ENG White I got no parameters at first but that was easily remedied by simply widening the search range; my most common is 12BC so search around there.
 
Anyone else having trouble with the shiny egg finder? I checked "shiny only," but it gave me several thousand results and none of them are coming up shiny in the main window.

Edit: now that I look at it, there's a bunch of stuff wrong with this. Is it a bug, or did I just do something wrong? http://i.imgur.com/XiQiQ.jpg
 
voodoo pimp said:
Anyone else having trouble with the shiny egg finder? I checked "shiny only," but it gave me several thousand results and none of them are coming up shiny in the main window.
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Screenshot? I tried it just now and don't seem to be having problems with it.
 
voodoo pimp said:
Anyone else having trouble with the shiny egg finder? I checked "shiny only," but it gave me several thousand results and none of them are coming up shiny in the main window.

Edit: now that I look at it, there's a bunch of stuff wrong with this. Is it a bug, or did I just do something wrong? http://i.imgur.com/XiQiQ.jpg
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Ah, dammit. It's a long-standing bug that I forgot to add to my notes and consequently, fix. Long story short, it's not reading the ID\SID you enter on the shiny egg tab.

To get around this for now, enter your target ID\SID into the boxes on the Capture tab and then run a Wild capture search. You don't have to let it complete. Then run your shiny egg search.

If you've been keeping up with my development notes (link in first post), you'll see I've been working on some fixes and new additions, so expect a new release very soon.
 
OmegaDonut said:
Ah, dammit. It's a long-standing bug that I forgot to add to my notes and consequently, fix. Long story short, it's not reading the ID\SID you enter on the shiny egg tab.

To get around this for now, enter your target ID\SID into the boxes on the Capture tab and then run a Wild capture search. You don't have to let it complete. Then run your shiny egg search.

If you've been keeping up with my development notes (link in first post), you'll see I've been working on some fixes and new additions, so expect a new release very soon.
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All right, I'll see if that helps. Thanks!

Edit: yeah, seems to be working fine now. I had been doing wild RNG on a different cart earlier and still had the ID/SID from that one in the other tab, didn't know it would cause problems.
 
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