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It was decided before the process started.
It got Poltergeist back just yesterday as per this thread:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/revenankh-nerf-reverted.3738416/
Edit: sniped by snake
Why is collaborative work not allowed for CAP art submissions? (hopefully this is the right place to ask).
The answer to this question is VERY long, so I’m not going to answer it fully here. In fact, there is a long 2,000 word post that I made more than 10 years ago in our private CAP Staff forum that contains the complete answer to this question in excruciating detail, including lots of staff-only info. I’ll just put a brief summary here for public consumption. If the answer below isn’t satisfactory, or if it prompts you to point out alternatives or to ask more questions — please don’t. This isn’t a discussion thread. It’s a simple question, so I’ll give my best simple answer. But there won’t be any more answers or follow-ups to this.
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The rules against collaborations on art were not put in place to prevent good, well-meaning collaborators from working together and contributing positively to the CAP project. Like all rules, they are there to prevent bad actors and idiots from causing problems for everyone else. I won’t go into all the history of bad or stupid people doing things in the past that led to the collaboration rule. All that is for mod eyes only. But here are just a few of the many problems associated with or made even worse by collaborations:
Plagiarism - People steal artwork from someone else and claim that it was “a collaboration”. Or the reverse, some jerk swoops in and claims a CAP artwork (perhaps even from a past project) was actually stolen from them by a supposed “collaborator”, and that they are the victim of CAP’s theft of their creation.
Credit - Who gets credit for collaborations and how much? Should it be considered all equal and credited equally, even if 90% of the artwork was done by one person? What if there is debate as to which collaborator did the most and deserves to be listed first? Like the plagiarism thing, what if someone claims they “helped” an artist with their artwork and demand to be credited as a collaborator?
Multiple Submissions - CAP allows one submission per artist, but what about collaborations? If a collaborator just does a little helping (the art equivalent of GP editing in C&C) should that prevent them from being able to make their own full submission? How many collaborations and of what magnitude are going to be allowed in the submission limit rules?
I could go on and on. Collaborations are a hornet’s nest. And the benefit to the CAP project is not worth the hassle of allowing it. If everybody played nice together all the time, it would be great to allow fun, positive collaborations. But, harsh reality has taught us that the juice just ain’t worth the squeeze.
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this one?
What is the time between CAPs?
Like 5-6 months lol they take their sweet time with them. They're basically wrapped up with CAP 34. All that's left is the full movepool
How are caps actually put on to Pokémon showdown? I really do not understand how they are coded in
There is a lot that goes into it. Pokedex, learnset, and format scripts needed to be updated with the new pokemon's details. Art assets need to be added and corresponding asset code needs to be implemented. There are seperate repositories a lot of these changes need to be made to. PS Dev team has explicitly given CAP mod team a handoff procedure to follow. Shortest answer I can provide without rambling on.
Well, how do we get you to ramble on about it?
So the link to the sprites for all the CAP is dead, does anyone have a reupload? I can't find one of protowatt without a lot of jpg compression
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yeah, peep the Gen 5 sprites, they got JPG compression all over them. I figure there must be a originalWhich ones? Gen 5? Mini sprite?
I see what you mean now, I'll look for it, however, the original posts with them had the sprites as an embed from a page that no longer works.
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Is there anywhere I could see the design philosophies for previous CAPs? Like the whole “uses an uncommon item” thing for Chuggalong, or how Syclant was apparently meant to be a Garchomp counter way back when.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/encaplopedia-the-complete-reference-index-for-create-a-pokémon.48782/
The "Final Product" link on each cap here will generally list its concept. The concept system wasn't fully implemented for super early caps (Syclant), but for examle you can click on Astrolotl to see Offensive Team Support.
The "Final Product" link on each cap here will generally list its concept. The concept system wasn't fully implemented for super early caps (Syclant), but for examle you can click on Astrolotl to see Offensive Team Support.
Is it possible for quick buffs/nerfs to also be recorded on the main Buffs/Nerfs page? Because I saw that Chuggalong is getting a cheeky nerf for the CAP tournament
In this case it's draining kiss being removed, which no longer has, some nerfs are not recorded in the main page as they are part of the balancing of the CAP during its first stage. I'll ask about it.
It looks like the CAP Pokemon section of Smogon has been removed? If I remember correctly, the Dex entries for earlier CAPs were stored there; they are, at least, still linked as such in the EnCAPlopedia. Is there somewhere else the Dex entries can be viewed?
Not within Smogon for now besides the EnCAPlopedia.
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