The Destiny Knot is a guaranteed 5.Maybe I'm not understanding this: Is it a guaranteed five IVs from Destiny Knot, or is it just likely five? Because I have my Frogadier with perfect HP and Sp. Attack holding Destiny Knot breeding with Timid Ditto holding Everstone with perfect Sp. Def and Speed, hoping to eventually get a Froakie with perfect HP, Sp. Attack, and Speed. First egg only had perfect Speed.
It seems there are greater forces at work that we're missing here. I'm getting way too many eggs with just three perfect IVs or less, even when the parents have perfect IVs all round. It is statistically implausible, unless...I assume it can't force the same stat from both parents? ie. Spending 2 of the 5 "forces" on HP alone.
This has happened twice in one day to me. I'm glad I'm not the only one suffering "getting two of your target IV spread on your last egg batch" syndrome.It is so much easier. Although it took me 2 days, I finally got my Adamant flawless speed boost Torchic. Funny thing was I got 2 in a row. Too bad the second one wasn't a female, or I'd have 2 flawless parents to breed countless perfect Torchics. XD
Master WGSThe Destiny Knot is a guaranteed 5.
To elaborate on what lucariojr said:
Your parents are 31/x/x/31/x/x and x/x/x/x/31/31.
The baby can inherit 5 of those 12 IVs. To fulfill your requirement, the HP must be an inherited IV (I'm not sure the formula/probability of inheriting from a parent and of being randomly generated) and it must pull from the Frogadier (50% chance). The same must happen with Special Attack and Speed. Ignoring all the other factors and just looking at the 3 stats in question, you have a 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 chance of getting the 3 perfect IVs you want, or 1 in 8 eggs. Of course, this is assuming that HP, Sp Attack, and Speed are the IVs chosen to be inherited from the parents.
Thanks for clarifying. So, though it's much much much easier than before, it's not quite as guaranteed as I originally thought. I'm pretty new to IV breeding in general, so thanks for being helpful/patient with my ignorance! Before the Destiny Knot discovery I lived in a world of "Parents might pass IVs but sometimes they don't? Idunno, hope for the best!" so this makes everything a lot clearer.Master WGS
The probability here is actually a bit lower. First, the destiny knot must select the IVs you're looking for. You want 3 IVs, which is a 3/6 chance of the destiny knot even picking HP, Speed, and Special Attack to even pass. Then it multiplies by the % chance in each IV to select it. So start off with a 50% chance to pass HP, Speed, and Special attack, then multiply by a 50% chance to pass frogadier's HP, 50% to pass frogadier's special attack, and 50% to pass Ditto's Speed, leaving you with 1/16.
It was back in Gen II, IIRC.Thanks for clarifying. So, though it's much much much easier than before, it's not quite as guaranteed as I originally thought. I'm pretty new to IV breeding in general, so thanks for being helpful/patient with my ignorance! Before the Destiny Knot discovery I lived in a world of "Parents might pass IVs but sometimes they don't? Idunno, hope for the best!" so this makes everything a lot clearer.
That said, I'm still not totally clear on what can breed with what in regards to "family." I thought parents couldn't breed with their offspring, but I definitely had a Froakie(m) born from the aforementioned Ditto + Frogadier(f) breed with that same Frogadier(f). Was barring incestuous relationships ever a thing, or did I just assume that?
Gen II barred incest. Pokemon breeding today encourages incest. In fact, pokemon breeding is very very "immoral," lol.Thanks for clarifying. So, though it's much much much easier than before, it's not quite as guaranteed as I originally thought. I'm pretty new to IV breeding in general, so thanks for being helpful/patient with my ignorance! Before the Destiny Knot discovery I lived in a world of "Parents might pass IVs but sometimes they don't? Idunno, hope for the best!" so this makes everything a lot clearer.
That said, I'm still not totally clear on what can breed with what in regards to "family." I thought parents couldn't breed with their offspring, but I definitely had a Froakie(m) born from the aforementioned Ditto + Frogadier(f) breed with that same Frogadier(f). Was barring incestuous relationships ever a thing, or did I just assume that?
How can you sleep at night?! That's terrible.So your baby doesn't have the IV's I'm looking for? Sorry, but your child will just take up space in one of my boxes. I'm gonna have to throw it away.
Is Swanna the stork then?For the record, an NPC (where was him? I THINK that in the monorail town) says that Pokemon eggs are not really eggs, but a cradle of some kind. And Pokemon breeding is as much a mystery in-game as it has always been. I think that the developers want us to believe in some "stork hypothesis", but take from that what you will.
Regardless, a somewhat stupid question: in Chesnaught's thread over at UT, a poster said that by breeding a female Chesnaught and a male Breloom, he could get a Chespin with Drain Punch. Several other posters said that they had no success in obtaining that move by using a male Smeargle or Mienfoo in the process. In the off-chance that the first poster wasn't mistaken, has the move-inheritance mechanics changed, i.e.: can some parents pass the move down while others can't? EXTREMELY unlikely, I know, but it doesn't hurt asking.
what do you think delibird keeps in its bag?Is Swanna the stork then?