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Blissey

If Wish does indeed heal 50% of Blissey's 714 HP it would be amazing. Depends on the Team but

@Leftovers, Bold, 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Wish / Protect / Toxic / Shadow Ball

I'm just not going to have anything on my team Shandera can set up on. If Wobba is OU again I'll just slap shed shell on it and go Seismic Toss over Shadow Ball again.
 
Mario With Lasers said:
Wishbliss
- Nature: Bold as Love
- Ability: Natural Cure
- EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Speed
~ Wish
~ Protect / Softboiled
~ Hidden Power [Ground]
~ Toxic


Ahhh, the horror that is Shadow Tag Shanderaa. It can't be bargained with, can't be reasoned with (how the hell would you reason with a chandelier anyway). And you read it right: Hidden Power Ground will be her attacking move of choice. It's useless against Scizor or Skarmory, but she needs it to stop Shanderaa. You won't want to lose her to the haunted chandelier while giving it a +6 boost to its Sp. Attack, will you? It also hits Lucario, Doryuzuu, Heatran and lol Tyranitar for SE damage, so it's not a wasted moveslot.


Oh boy, and to think just yesterday I complained we didn't have any new Wishers besides Mamanbou...!
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Shadow Tag Shanderaa doesn't exist yet, so there really isn't any reason to look out for it. Nintendo might never even release it.
 
pkmn-taicho321 said:
Shadow Tag Shanderaa doesn't exist yet, so there really isn't any reason to look out for it. Nintendo might never even release it.
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This, and HP ground wont save you from getting fried. i have set up on a shadow ball blissey, hp ground wont do more (in fact its easier, obviously).
 
Frozen_Spirit said:
Too bad wishbliss is hard to come by.
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Fisdunction said:
Too bad Pokesav.
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Is wishbliss even real? Is there any confirmation that a wishbliss event actually took place?

The validity of wishbliss is of absolute importance, especially with wish receiving altered mechanics as of gen 5 that allows blissey to pretty much fully heal any ally. Shoddy battle/Pokemon Lab are supposed to be accurate simulations of the in-game pokemon battle system and if wishbliss doesn't actually exist, it stands to reason that it should be removed. So... can anyone confirm that wishbliss ever happened?
 
So it was all a big conspiracy where either smogon got lied to or maybe smogon itself is the bringer of the conspiracy...

Where do the lies end... Where do they end... >.>
 
thatgirl said:
Is wishbliss even real? Is there any confirmation that a wishbliss event actually took place?

The validity of wishbliss is of absolute importance, especially with wish receiving altered mechanics as of gen 5 that allows blissey to pretty much fully heal any ally. Shoddy battle/Pokemon Lab are supposed to be accurate simulations of the in-game pokemon battle system and if wishbliss doesn't actually exist, it stands to reason that it should be removed. So... can anyone confirm that wishbliss ever happened?
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WishBliss has been well confirmed. The only thing about it up for debate is whether it could have any IV and Nature spread. There are not enough different WishBliss known to establish that the IVs and Nature could actually be anything, but the general assumption is that they could be, since we do know of multiple different IV/Nature combinations.
 
People are seriously overreacting about shanderaa. Like others said, nintendo didn't even release it yet and, even if they do, blissey will still be as good as ever, especially with the new wish.

Blissey @ Leftovers / Shed Shell
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Speed (or maybe a spread with less hp and more sdef as 325 hp from wish is plenty already)
- Seismic Toss
- Thunderwave / Toxic
- Wish
- Protect / Softboiled

In a metagame with shanderaa and wobbie, i would certainly use shed shell + softboiled since, without lefties, you lose the ability to protect to gain an extra 6.25% hp - making instant recovery more important to me. SToss does consistent damage to everything and, when blissey isn't wishing, you can spread some status if you like.

Another important thing to note is, despite new moves (like psycho shock) and new pokemon immune to her commom status (like doryuuzu), they will not affect blissey much. Jirachi already beats blissey with wish/CM or iron head, alakazam has other pretty big issues besides blissey already and doryuuzu can't touch common blissey partners such as skarmory or gliscor, for example.
 
Wishbliss is real, I've seen one from a friend in NY. However the only LEGAL natures Wishbliss can have are Calm and Modest, as those were the set natures given out at the NYPC Event.
 
VOLCANO said:
Wishbliss is real, I've seen one from a friend in NY. However the only LEGAL natures Wishbliss can have are Calm and Modest, as those were the set natures given out at the NYPC Event.
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no they gave out different natures, I have a bold one but with crap IVs

edit: and other crap natures like impish and naive
 
Just some random calcs on how much Wish will heal common sweepers, assuming minimum HP Blissey. A passed Wish of 326 HP will fully heal anything with base 92 HP and below (assuming 6 HP EVs). That list includes:

Infernape
Blaziken
Flygon
Sazando
Lucario
Dragonite
Heatran
Terakion
Machamp
Zapdos
Moltres
Raikou
Goruggu
Randorosu
Yanmega
Crobat
Togekiss
Porygon-Z
Shibiridon
Urugamosu
Empoloen
Nidoking
Venusaur
Tentacruel
Heracross
Metagross
Lati@s
Torunerosu
Boruterosu
Ononokusu

And there's more I'm sure, those are just some that might see prominent use in OU.
 
Guys should stop talking about this Shadow Tag nonsense. Did you know that Blissey was used in Gen 4 Ubers, where Wobbuffet could come in and set up Rayquaza or any other sweeper, and proceed to destroy you. And trust me, giving your opponents free set up time in ubers is gonna result in death.

Ok, a +6 mon is probably more threatening than what Rayquaza accomplishes with its 120 base power outrage and all, but still, its the same comparison. Actually stop theorymoning and test it out.

Btw, who has better stats? Blissey or Chansey with stone.?
 
Micket said:
Guys should stop talking about this Shadow Tag nonsense. Did you know that Blissey was used in Gen 4 Ubers, where Wobbuffet could come in and set up Rayquaza or any other sweeper, and proceed to destroy you. And trust me, giving your opponents free set up time in ubers is gonna result in death.

Ok, a +6 mon is probably more threatening than what Rayquaza accomplishes with its 120 base power outrage and all, but still, its the same comparison. Actually stop theorymoning and test it out.

Btw, who has better stats? Blissey or Chansey with stone.?
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Chansey has more defense and special defense(though a little thanks to Blissey's Leftovers)
 
I doubt Blissey will go anywhere. Unless I'm mistaking, Blissey still takes special hits better than any other 'mon out there, even with the power creep and stuff. Blissey users just might need to be a bit more careful when deciding if they should stay in and wish/inflict status/heal or switch out after sponging a special hit. If Shanderra (SP? ) becomes a common switch in to Blissey, then double switching'll probably become more prominent, I think. Switch Blissey into a special hitter, then switch out right away and go into your chandelier counter.
 
Micket said:
Btw, who has better stats? Blissey or Chansey with stone.?
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Supposedly Chancey is better physically but they a close specially (and if you factor in Leftovers or the ability to use Shed Shell...). But then I've never seen someone actually do the spreads.
 
Chansey's Sp. Att is still pitifully low, so you are making a pretty big trade-off. Chansey has more walling potency, Blissey has more options.
 
Blissey is a great special wall, the chandelier thing is not going to be a threat to blissey's OU position. However, Blissey does get Healing heart...which might be an alternative to natural cure
 
I don't get why people are saying Blissey will not be OU due to Shanderra. I mean, Blissey can kill that thing off quite easily, and continue it's special walling. She is still a vital part of any stall team, as she pretty much handles almost all Sp.Attackers.

Also, does anybody realize that a Pursuit user could just switch in on Psychoo Shock and Pursuit away? Excpecially something like Scizor or Tyranitar.
 
thatgirl said:
Is wishbliss even real? Is there any confirmation that a wishbliss event actually took place?

The validity of wishbliss is of absolute importance, especially with wish receiving altered mechanics as of gen 5 that allows blissey to pretty much fully heal any ally. Shoddy battle/Pokemon Lab are supposed to be accurate simulations of the in-game pokemon battle system and if wishbliss doesn't actually exist, it stands to reason that it should be removed. So... can anyone confirm that wishbliss ever happened?
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http://www.pokemonsecure.com/events/usa/wisheventinfo.php

This is what I could find.


EDIT -- and posts in this very same page lol
 
Just FYI, for all those who don't already know, Wishbliss is "not allowed" on B/W Random Matches. I'm as of yet unsure if they're allowed in regular friend-coded battles.

Additionally, Roost-Skarmory is also "not allowed" in B/W Random matches.

It will kick you offline and not allow you to search for a battle if you try to use these.
 
Yes, Reikai, Pokémon with moves unobtainable in the fifth generation are not allowed in Random Matches.

However, anything is allowed in friend-coded battles (and wireless/IR battles for that matter), so there's nothing to worry about.
 
Gemerl said:
However, in running psycho shock, they're either a) losing coverage by replacing a secondary attack or b) losing their main STAB in psychic, which may or may not be a disadvantage. And I dont see many uses in the move outside hitting blissey, really.
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Like someone won't run
Alakazam @ LO
252 Speed 252 Sp.Attack
Timid
Psycho Shock
Psychic
Shadow Ball
HP ???

>_>
 
-Manaphy-- said:
I mean, Blissey can kill that thing off quite easily, and continue it's special walling.
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Apart from the other things you said (on which i agree), this is wrong. you would need special attack investment to do that, and i dont think that is really the way. (thats wihtout counting in that shanderaa can invest in bulk too, in which case youre screwed anyway)
 
Based onn the extremem amount of chatter on something totally irellavent i'm guessing every trainers tem will have a Chandera on it... I dont know why blissey has to change to match 1 counter for any reason. each pokemon has somethign it cant stand up to thats why there are weaknesses etc.

to limit blissey to one candle is stupid. she is still the best special wall in game and can take almost any beast so I dont understand why some people wanna say it will lose usage.

there is no need to change anythign on blissey just adjust your team as necessary to batte the candle if there is on on the opposing team and i'm guessing it goes uber or even banned with shadow tag anyway
 
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