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Marty

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Did I screw up when testing it somehow?
I can't watch the battle videos, but I have to ask, was Oranguru the last to move when using Instruct? That would explain why Protect kept failing, because it always fails when the user moves last (this is why it fails when the opponent switches out in Singles, for example). I guarantee that Showdown is wrong to continue using the same counter after a Protect failure during the same turn.
 

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I can't watch the battle videos, but I have to ask, was Oranguru the last to move when using Instruct? That would explain why Protect kept failing, because it always fails when the user moves last (this is why it fails when the opponent switches out in Singles, for example). I guarantee that Showdown is wrong to continue using the same counter after a Protect failure during the same turn.
Yes, that was the case in Merritt's Battle Videos - good catch! Swaggy McBuckets did his testing in Trick Room, while Merritt's was with Oranguru moving last in normal Speed conditions. I just labbed it out myself and replicated Swaggy McBuckets's results, being able to successfully Protect after 4 failed double Protects and 2 failed triple Protects. H98G-WWWW-WWWJ-SL6E. My original post still stands as a result.
 

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Photon Geyser should have done much more damage here: https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen7balancedhackmons-722277945

Because of the Burn, my SpA was higher than the Atk, so that Photon Geyser was a special move - and according to the calc, it should do around 50% of damage or more, coming off of Slaking's SpA. However, it did only 31%.
This is the correct behavior.

Since it cape up in discord: Burn doesn't actually drop your raw stat, which means that in this same case, the burned 300 Atk Necrozma still uses its attack stat for Photon Geyser over the 200 SpA, and as such deals damage coming from the Atk stat, which is then halved by the burn.
e: To elaborate, ever since gen 3 burn's damage reduction has been done as a modifier to the damage formula, not as a raw stat reduction to Attack. That's why you'll see that the damage for these two calcs is slightly different.

-2 252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Paras: 1096-1296 (519.4 - 614.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Possible damage amounts: (1096, 1108, 1120, 1140, 1152, 1164, 1176, 1188, 1200, 1216, 1228, 1240, 1252, 1264, 1276, 1296)

252+ Atk burned Landorus-Therian Supersonic Skystrike (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Paras: 1098-1292 (520.3 - 612.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Possible damage amounts: (1098, 1110, 1122, 1136, 1148, 1160, 1176, 1188, 1200, 1214, 1226, 1238, 1254, 1266, 1278, 1292)
 
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Thanks for the clarification. But why was Photon Geyser shown as a "special" move then? I wrongly assumed that was because I was burned and it would use my Pokemon's special attack rather than the attack stat.
 

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Thanks for the clarification. But why was Photon Geyser shown as a "special" move then? I wrongly assumed that was because I was burned and it would use my Pokemon's special attack rather than the attack stat.
Photon Geyser Displays as Special in-game by default, because that's the category Shattered Psyche defaults to, when using Photon Geyser as the base move
 

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Photon Geyser should have done much more damage here: https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen7balancedhackmons-722277945

Because of the Burn, my SpA was higher than the Atk, so that Photon Geyser was a special move - and according to the calc, it should do around 50% of damage or more, coming off of Slaking's SpA. However, it did only 31%.
Photon Geyser doesn't take in account the burn, so if the attack without the burn is higher than the Spa, it will still use the attack.
 
Hi there I would like to report a bug


Turn 3
Ed Sheeram has 45 seconds left.
Il buffone has 45 seconds left.

Amoonguss used Rage Powder!
Amoonguss became the center of attention!

The opposing Sceptile used Grass Pledge!
It's super effective!
Tyranitar lost 56.0% of its health!

The opposing Arcanine used Flare Blitz!
It's super effective!
Amoonguss lost 37.6% of its health!
The opposing Arcanine is damaged by the recoil!

Amoonguss fainted!

Tyranitar used Dragon Dance!
Tyranitar's Attack rose!
Tyranitar's Speed rose!

Grass Pledge Should have hit amoonguss
Why did it not
 

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Hi there I would like to report a bug


Turn 3
Ed Sheeram has 45 seconds left.
Il buffone has 45 seconds left.

Amoonguss used Rage Powder!
Amoonguss became the center of attention!

The opposing Sceptile used Grass Pledge!
It's super effective!
Tyranitar lost 56.0% of its health!

The opposing Arcanine used Flare Blitz!
It's super effective!
Amoonguss lost 37.6% of its health!
The opposing Arcanine is damaged by the recoil!

Amoonguss fainted!

Tyranitar used Dragon Dance!
Tyranitar's Attack rose!
Tyranitar's Speed rose!

Grass Pledge Should have hit amoonguss
Why did it not
grass types ignore the effects of rage powder, this is not a bug
 
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen3ou-724468304

Gen3...team building is allowing something strange....
Drill Peck + Whirlwind on the same set (Skarmory) has always been not possible.

Surprised if no one else has seen this, and that there was no drama over this in any tournaments (I guess it's because attackless Skarm is the metagame fad). Like-- when I see Whirlwind, that means no Drill Peck, so more likely no Flying attack. It impacts things even indirectly just by seeing Whrilwind on the moveset, for heaven's sake.

I brought it up over 2 years ago. This has major implications for Gen3 OU.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/gen-3-on-ps-final-fixes.3527268/page-3#post-6515757

Please look into fixing this. Unless something's changed that I am not aware of, Showdown! is allowing this and it's incorrect!!!
 

Sondero

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What if the Prankster Pokémon selected a different status move, but itself gets Prankster Encored into using the previous status move?
Sorry for the late response, If it tries to use a different status move, the dark type will be immune to whatever move the Prankster user attempts, even if it's not a status move.

In the video here, the Meowstic tries to use Misty terrain, but is encore'd into using Leer. It doesn't affect Liepard. After encore wears off, Meowstic uses Frustration and then tries to use Leer again. The encore'd Frustration targets Liepard and it turns out Liepard is immune to that as well.
 
If the endless battle clause triggers in gen3Ubers (in this case because two Wynauts were not losing Hp from Struggle) and another pokemon on the team holds Leppa Berry that player loses the game. If both or none of the players have a pokemon with Leppa Berry the game is a tie (even if the pokemon with Leppa Berry already fainted).
Since the pokemon with Leppa Berry might not even have been active in the game, it should be counted as a tie in all these cases.
Wobbuffet with Leftovers is illegal in gen3Ubers. Shouldn't the same apply to Wynaut for the sake of consistency?
 
I was playing in Gen II random, and Destiny Bond has a bug. I attached the replay. On turn 25 my opponents Wobbuffet used Destiny Bond followed by me putting it to sleep. On turn 28 I finally KO the Wobbuffet while it was still asleep and Destiny Bond would have been inactive on turn 26. Yet my Nidoqueen also fainted due to Destiny Bond. According to Veekun it only works for "this turn" and on Bulbapedia "If the user takes another turn (including 'inactive' turns such as those spent sleeping or flinching), the effect disappears." the Destiny Bond icon dissappeared on turn 26 but I still fainted from it.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2randombattle-724786362
 
This is kind of a bug but not really. In random battle (SM) rotom-fan item is air balloon. WHY??? It serves not purpose. There are proboly other examples, but this is the most recent that happened to me.
 
This is kind of a bug but not really. In random battle (SM) rotom-fan item is air balloon. WHY??? It serves not purpose. There are proboly other examples, but this is the most recent that happened to me.
It’s an intentional joke because Rotom-Fan already has a useless ability (Levitate), so it’s doubling down on that. Randbats isn’t meant to be serious.
 

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This is kind of a bug but not really. In random battle (SM) rotom-fan item is air balloon. WHY??? It serves not purpose. There are proboly other examples, but this is the most recent that happened to me.
As Ryolain said: the Air Balloon is intentional, it's meant to be a joke set. Whether it's actually funny or not is up for debate, though.
This thread isn't really meant for reporting bad randbats sets. If you find a randbats set that is objectively bad, like a Weather Ball user with no way of setting up weather or a Pokemon that knows Swords Dance but no Physical moves or such, you can report the sets here: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokemon-sun-moon-random-battle-sets.3591157/
I'm pretty sure Air Balloon Rotom-Fan is the only joke set, so if you found Air Balloon on something like Emolga, it would be worth reporting there.
 

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This is kind of a bug but not really. In random battle (SM) rotom-fan item is air balloon. WHY??? It serves not purpose. There are proboly other examples, but this is the most recent that happened to me.
This is a joke. It's actually intended and I don't think it's gonna change anytime soon.
 
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