Fusion Evolution V5 (Submission Phase)

[anaconja]

Smeargle/Marshadow
Nidoking/Landorus
Absol/Mewtwo
Jirachi/Shaymin-Sky
Weavile/Entei
Lucario/Keldeo
Latias/Rotom-Heat
Alomomola/Ho-Oh

 

[Blumenwitz]

Lickitung/Rayquaza
Carnivine/Giratina-O
Cacturne/Volcanion
Persian-Alola/Furfrou
Klinklang/Metagross
Marowak-Alola/Aggron
Thundurus/Liepard
Yanmega/Scolipede
Hitmonchan/Melmetal (Self-Vote)
Chimecho/Bronzong (Self-Vote)

 

[T.I.A.]

Lickitung/Rayquaza
Carnivine/Giratina-O
Cacturne/Volcanion
Persian-Alola/Furfrou
Klinklang/Metagross
Marowak-Alola/Aggron
Thundurus/Liepard
Yanmega/Scolipede
Hitmonchan/Melmetal
Chimecho/Bronzong

 

[AquaticPanic]

Stakataka / Celesteela
Druddigon / Nidoking
Audino / Blissey
Scyther / Scizor
Escavalier / Scizor
Jirachi / Shaymin-Sky
Wailord / Kyurem
Pheromosa / Kartana
Amoonguss / Tangrowth
Alomomola / Ho-Oh

 

[KirbyRider1337]

Amoonguss / Tangrowth [SV]
Escavalier / Scizor
Celesteela / Stakataka
Klinklang / Ampharos
Audino / Blissey
Fraxure / Mewtwo
Thundurus-I / Whimsicott
Torterra / Turtonator
Vikavolt / Latios
Bronzong / Chimecho

 

[Cookie Butter]

Escavalier / Scizor
Zapdos / Manectric
Celesteela / Stakataka (SV)
Lickitung / Rayquaza (SV)
Yanmega / Scolipede
Amoonguss / Tangrowth
Mew / Alakazam
Smeargle/Marshadow
Cacturne / Volcanion

 

[colourcodedchaos]

Yanmega / Scolipede (SV)
Metagross / Klinklang (SV)
Scizor / Heracross (SV)
Abomasnow / Aurorus
Torkoal / Samurott
Starmie / Shaymin
Torterra / Turtonator
Latios / Azelf
Weavile / Entei
Venusaur / Lilligant

 

[Tuthur]

Alomomola / Ho-Oh (SV)
Latias / Rotom-Heat (SV)
Lucario / Keldeo
Venusaur / Lililigant
Chimecho / Bronzong
Tangrowth / Amoonguss
Kyurem / Wailord
Starmie / Shaymin
Skymin / Jirachi

 

[G-Luke]

Cacturne/Volcanion
Persian-Alola/Furfrou
Klinklang/Metagross
Marowak-Alola/Aggron
Thundurus/Liepard
Yanmega/Scolipede

 

[Yoshiblaze]

Cacturne / Volcanion (SV)
Weavile / Entei (SV)
Kyurem / Wailord
Vikavolt / Latios
Escavlier / Scizor
Hitmonchan / Melmetal
Lucario / Keldeo
Thundurus-I / Liepard
Mew / Alakazam
Naganadel / Nihilego

 

[AquaticPanic]

Voting is closed! Winners will be tallied up soon

 

[AquaticPanic]

Here are our winners! Since this slate is way easier to code than usual slates, we allowed more winners to get through this time.

At first place, with 5 votes each, we have...

VOLTURNE

100 / 117 / 95 / 132 / 95 / 67
Water Absorb

THUNDPARD

76 / 116 / 65 / 121 / 70 / 133
Prankster

MADELINE

88 / 103 / 102 / 100 / 77 / 118
Speed Boost


In second place, with 4 votes, we have quite a bunch of winners:

AMOONGROWTH

122 / 107 / 112 / 112 / 80 / 55
Regenerator

BRONZECHO

96 / 74 / 113 / 92 / 118 / 54
Levitate

STEELATEELA

104 / 131 / 162 / 85 / 116 / 42
Beast Boost

ESCAVAZOR

85 / 147 / 117 / 72 / 107 / 57 (Base)
85 / 167 / 157 / 82 / 127 / 67 (Mega)
Swarm

METALCHAN

102 / 144 / 116 / 62 / 102 / 70
Iron Fist

SIRIRACHI (Star form)

105 / 106 / 102 / 125 / 102 / 128
Serene Grace

SENSATIONAL

75 / 142 / 127 / 87 / 92 / 105 (Base)
75 / 152 / 147 / 97 / 112 / 145 (Mega)
Clear Body

LUKELDEO

85 / 116 / 85 / 127 / 85 / 124 (Base)
85 / 151 / 103 / 152 / 85 / 146 (Mega)
Justified

MORON

80 / 110 / 160 / 70 / 85 / 62 (Base)
80 / 140 / 210 / 70 / 105 / 62 (Mega)
Rock Head

LORD KAIYUR

152 / 115 / 92 / 115 / 92 / 82
Pressure


But wait! There's even MORE winners! At third and last place, with 3 votes each, we have:

Alo-ola

140 / 120 / 110 / 87 / 104 / 82
Regenerator

Rotias

90 / 77 / 103 / 112 / 123 / 123 (Base)
90 / 97 / 133 / 142 / 143 / 123 (Mega)
Levitate

Licquaza

122 / 127 / 87 / 110 / 87 / 67 (Base)
122 / 157 / 97 / 140 / 97 / 87 (Mega)
Air Lock

Furpurr

85 / 85 / 75 / 85 / 92 / 123
Fur Coat

Shaymie

85 / 95 / 100 / 125 / 100 / 120
Natural Cure

Ventel

97 / 142 / 80 / 72 / 85 / 137
Pressure


With that, we conclude another slate. Discussion Phase shall begin!

 

[T.I.A.]

With 19 winners, this is easily our biggest slate to ever happen. Also, another fusion under my winning streak.

 

[colourcodedchaos]

yuss, two in the slate. =]

Congratulations to everyone who took part; this was a really interesting slate and every fusion had real merit to it. =]

 

[Blumenwitz]

There's way too much to cover here, so I'll just throw together some quick and dirty sets for some of the winners:

Sensational @ Sensationalite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Shift Gear
- Gear Grind
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch

Thundpard @ Black Glasses
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Encore
- Knock Off
- Pursuit
- U-Turn

Alo-Ola @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Toxic
- Knock Off
- Scald
- Roost

And of course, I would be remiss not to include a set for one of my own winning fusions:

Metalchan @ Choice Band
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Double Iron Bash
- Thunder Punch
- Mach Punch

 

[anaconja]

Volturne: hot garbage (no pun intended) because

exists
Thundpard: hot garbage because

exists
Madeline: hot garbage because it has no Flying-type STAB physical attack that isn't Wing Attack and 100 Attack lol
Amoongrowth: okay i guess
Regenvest (Amoongrowth) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Giga Drain
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Physically Defensive (Amoongrowth) @ Rocky Helmet / Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb / Clear Smog
- Spore / Leech Seed
- Hidden Power [Ice] / Hidden Power [Fire]

Bronzecho: it's like

or

but bad. if you want Steel or Psychic trick room setters there are plenty better mons to choose from (

)
Steelateela: nothing to distinguish it from

or

(besides its lack of reliable recovery xD!)
look i'm stakataka but bad (Steelateela) @ Groundium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball
- Stone Edge
- Trick Room

look i'm zaggron but bad (Steelateela) @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Heavy Slam
- Leech Seed
- Flamethrower / Toxic
- Protect

Escavazor: doesn't do much to distinguish it from

besides its slightly higher Attack
Tank (Escavazor) @ Escavazorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def or 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD or 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD
Relaxed or Brave or Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Bullet Punch
- Swords Dance / Defog
- Roost
- U-turn

Metalchan: pretty ganky, pretty good cause no one else does what it does
haha paraflincher XD (Metalchan) @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Double Iron Bash
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch / Bullet Punch

Sirirachi-Star: see Metalchan
Wallbreaker or Offensive Support (Sirirachi-Star) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Seed Flare
- Flash Cannon
- Earth Power
- U-Turn / Trick / Healing Wish

Sensational: competes with

and kinda loses
Sensational @ Sensationite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shift Gear
- Gear Grind
- Earthquake
- Thunder Punch

Lukeldeo: wow, actually good mon
Physical (Lukeldeo) @ Lukeldite
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Liquidation
- Earthquake / Aqua Jet / Thunder Punch

Special (Lukeldeo) @ Lukeldite
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Focus Blast
- Hydro Pump
- Taunt

Moron: imagine having less attack than Marowak-Alola lamo, also competes with

as a Fire-type tank and

as a Steel-type tank, as well as plenty that outclass it as a wallbreaker

imagine a tank with no recovery (Moron) @ Leftovers / Moronite
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Iron Head
- Stealth Rock
- Toxic

imagine a wallbreaker with 110 attack (Moron) @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Iron Head
- Head Smash
- Earthquake

Lord Kaiyur: it's ok, i guess. pp stalling is too easy to break through but its stats are not too bad, though it's kinda outclassed by

because of these mons' better abilities and utility moves

Wall (Lord Kaiyur) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Toxic
- Roost
- Clear Smog

wow this mon really has no support moves going for it lamo

Alo-ola: good
Physically Defensive (Alo-ola) @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Scald
- Toxic / Defog
- Knock Off
- Recover / Wish

Regenvest (Alomomola) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Scald
- Brave Bird / Sacred Fire
- Knock Off
- Earthquake

Rotias: seems pretty underwhelming to me, mostly cause

exists
Mega Offensive Support (Rotias) (F) @ Rotiasite
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Will-O-Wisp / Defog
- Roost
- Volt Switch

Offensive Support (Rotias) (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Thunderbolt / Trick
- Healing Wish / Defog
- Volt Switch

Electrium Z (Rotias) (F) @ Electrium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Thunderbolt
- Calm Mind
- Roost

Licquaza: looks like

but different. okay, i guess, but way too damn slow.
Revenge Killer (Licquaza) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Dragon Ascent
- V-create
- Earthquake

Set-up Sweeper (Licquaza) @ Life Orb
Ability: Air Lock
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Dragon Ascent
- V-create / Earthquake
- Dragon Dance

Furpurr: i shouldn't have to explain to you that this is the hottest garbage i've ever seen. 85/75/92 with a bad defensive typing and no recovery makes it terrible, and it can't even do anything back to opponents because of its mixed 85 attack stats.

Shaymie: decent spinner
Offensive Support (Starmie) @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Seed Flare
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin / Recover

Defensive (Shaymie) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Scald
- Toxic
- Recover
- Rapid Spin

Ventel: interesting enough because it doesn't have many competitors, but it would like a better ability
Wallbreaker (Ventel) @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Knock Off
- Pursuit
- Extreme Speed / Low Kick / Poison Jab
- Sacred Fire

edit: the hot garbage mons are probably not hot garbage in a likely FE UU

 

[colourcodedchaos]

Madeline: hot garbage because it has no Flying-type STAB physical attack that isn't Wing Attack and 100 Attack lol

Er, point of order, Madeline's not a physical attacker. Leaving aside that its actual role is spreading speed buffs around your team, it has 100 SpA and access to STAB Air Slash, which works well with its having very high speed at +1 onwards. There are other reasons it's not gonna set the world on fire, such as being quite vulnerable to priority from things like Ash-Greninja fusions and the various AteSpeeders cluttering the place up (A Rave-Alola in particular springs to mind), but the shallowness of its physical movepool really isn't that big of a deal. I know we have a lot of them in FE, but not everything has to be a physical sweeper. =]

 

[Tuthur]

Er, point of order, Madeline's not a physical attacker. Leaving aside that its actual role is spreading speed buffs around your team, it has 100 SpA and access to STAB Air Slash, which works well with its having very high speed at +1 onwards. There are other reasons it's not gonna set the world on fire, such as being quite vulnerable to priority from things like Ash-Greninja fusions and the various AteSpeeders cluttering the place up (A Rave-Alola in particular springs to mind), but the shallowness of its physical movepool really isn't that big of a deal. I know we have a lot of them in FE, but not everything has to be a physical sweeper. =]

Except that Baton Pass is still banned in FE. Also special set are hot trash with a bad offensive typing, bad STAB, no coverage and no boosting options. Madeline is really bad with mediocre stats and typing. It can't even absorb T-Spikes. The only thing it might be good is a suicide lead set with Spikes.

 

[T.I.A.]

Well, Anjaconda, mine at the very least has prankster, and Houndectric doesn't so at least its a little different.

 

[Blumenwitz]

Hey, I don't know if this has been brought up in the thread before, but I have a question; can fusions use the exclusive Z-moves of their parents? For instance, could Mimian hold Mewnium Z and use Genesis Supernova?

 

[KirbyRider1337]

Hey, I don't know if this has been brought up in the thread before, but I have a question; can fusions use the exclusive Z-moves of their parents? For instance, could Mimian hold Mewnium Z and use Genesis Supernova?

Yes, unless the Z-Crystal in question is Kommonium Z or Eevium Z (So for instance, Kommew can use Genesis Supernova, but not Clangorous Soulblaze.)

 

[T.I.A.]

What about the next submission phase and, uh, 1 suggestion. For Pokemon-exclusive items, it seems kinda restrictive for them to only be usable when both can use it (except for Eviolite), so how about the Pokemon can hold its exclusive item if its fused with that Pokemon. Maybe nerf Thick Club and Light Ball to 50% if held by the fusions.

 

[MutekiBhanChoX]

When is the next time for voting?

 

[T.I.A.]

When is the next time for voting?

We already finished up voting. Maybe wait a while for the next slate to start.

EDIT: And for the last suggestion, we can think of a way to raise it to 480 for 670+ DNA Fusions by one thing: prohibit Mimikyu,

 

[Cookie Butter]

It's time to start a new submission slate. No special slate this time, just normal FE rules.