Serious Is DBZ the strongest Universe? Can Krillin 1v1 anyone from Naruto and OP Universe?

What's the Strongest Universe?

  • DBZ Universe Strongest

    Votes: 63 77.8%

  • Naruto Universe Strongest

    Votes: 8 9.9%

  • OP Universe Strongest

    Votes: 3 3.7%

  • Bleach Universe Strongest - lolz.

    Votes: 7 8.6%
  • Total voters
    81
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Minwu said:
gurren lagann. also star wars during that GN where palpatine creates a violent wormhole with his mind and steers it around a bit

..So where would Geass users place?
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I mentioned TTGL earlier but deleted it because this seems to only include the "bigtime" shonens or w/e. Still, TTGL uses galaxies as weapons and has unlimited power as long as its hope engines are still running.

Geass isn't that threatening in comparison: Rolo probably has one of the more OP ones in terms of one on one combat and his power would be worthless against people who aren't going to be killed by guns or knives.
 
Outlaw said:
Tien defeated Saibamen before, shattered Nappa's armor, blasted down Semi-Perfect Cell, battled the Cell Jrs, AND shocked Gohan with the strength of his Tri-Beam Cannon against Gotenks empowered Super Buu.

He's the only human who CONTINUED to train.
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Let's not also forget that Tien was one of, if not (in my opinion) the best villain in DB/Z canon. He was much more menacing and imposing given his relative power than anyone in DBZ.
 
The only reason Krillin is half as strong as he seems imo is because the destructo disc itself is extremely powerful, arguably much more so than normal kamehameha variants since very few things will stop a disc from bifurcating you if it hits. He does get props for likely being the strongest pure human ever though. For all the Goku comparisons as well, which are we talking anyways, DBZ or GT? As Goku in kid form in GT is definitely more limited for the most part until you get to SS5.

Overall I'd rank it DBZ over all as well, you have a bunch of aliens destroying planets on a regular basis and being threats to the universe at large, you can't really compare that to the rest which happen mostly on a single planetary basis. Even the weaker DBZ characters are strong enough by the series' end to probably kill all but the main heroes and villains of the other mangas listed. I'd wager even Madara from Naruto would be defeated if completely obliterated so his body can't reform if a DBZ character would blast him enough times, akin to how Cell was nearly defeated the first few times.
 
Overrated krillin is overrated, 3 arcs ago i wouldve said he solo'd anyone in naruto cuz he Lolz at OP or bleach power levels (tho i know barely anything from the latter), but then naruto dodged the fastest guy in earth's punch and madara pulled a meteor from sky.

But i agree with chou, higher power levels =\= great manga, i personally find naruto and OP really good, fairytail used to be good as well, but yea not anymore. So how do you guys qualify a manga as good?
 
This is literally one of the dumbest topics ever and the fact that it has over 75 responses with enough being semi serious is so ironically hilarious to me I can't even put it into words.

THAT SAID

Obviously DBZ universe is the strongest; Toriyama gave pre Frieza saga Vegeta the power to blow up WORLDS. Krillen at the end of DBZ would obviously wipe the floor from anyone in the OP / Naruto / Bleach / Hunter x Hunter worlds if he gets his DBZ power level...which is why comparing world's with different physics / strength systems is more retarded than Stonecold's sex life.

If you want to talk about Krillen vs. Luffy in relative terms however (as in, Krillen at point A in dbz was this strong compared to the most powerful and average beings in his world and Luffy at point A1 in op was this strong compared to the most powerful and average beings in his world), then we have an interesting topic.

Also, it is obviously not power levels that makes a manga good. It's not even what makes the battle component of a shounen good. Proper strength development, cleverly executed strategies, surprise factor, staying consistent to previously established rules all are part of what make the battle component in a shounen good. What the power level actually is is almost completely irrelevant.
 
So much hate for the Bleach verse......... *Cries*

Zommari bloodlusted uses his eyes and takes control over all of Goku's bodyparts, GG.

I'm a genius.
 
DrRobotnik said:
Shinryu I think you're forgetting that the Destructo Disk has worse accuracy than Sheer Cold.
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That's only because, pre-cell, if it hit anything then the whole plot would be cut in half.
Krillin probably could have killed Frieza before he even transformed for the second time.
 
How is this even a question? Of course DBZ is the strongest universe. I have no doubt that Gohan/Goku/Vegeta would take a steaming dump on anyone in the One Piece/Bleach universes considering how they're all just a bunch of one trick ponies (devil fruits/bankais etc) and have very little diversity in their skillsets. A case could be made for Naruto that Izanagi users could beat someone like Krillin by surprise (die, then reanimate and kill), but even then, they'd be crippling themselves for life to pull it off. Guys like Whitebeard and Yamamoto would have trouble fighting Tien.

Chou Toshio said:
I hope by 3 you mean Naruto, Bleach, and DBZ because no way in fuck does YYH beat OP as a manga.

YYH art is crap (and by crap I mean CRAP). YYH has pretty good characters (kind of bland though) and a good story line (pretty one-dimensional though). It lacks the complexity, scale, and foresight One Piece has. Not to mention lacking any sense of humor. YYH is a good manga, definitely beating out Naruto and Bleach, but no way in fuck does it match One Piece.

Personally, I'd prefer DBZ > YYH. Just because YYH's art is SO BAD. It's hard-for-me-to-read-this-bad.

Could be worse though... could be Hunter x Hunter where he has chapters that were actually published as rough draft sketches. wtf
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Okay, I know that Naruto is a shell of it's former self, but no way it belongs in the same category as crap like Bleach, DBZ, and Fairy Tail. These stories have no substance whatsoever and are just a messy agglomeration of fights (although DBZ can be excused as it's the first manga that pulls this off). And lets be honest, you know how the fights are going to go before they even start. Bleach usually goes something like: random captains/vice captains beat the henchmen, then the arc boss shows up and Ichigo comes in and bs haxes his way to victory. DBZ usually goes like: characters train/get power boosts, fight on even terms with the villain, villain reveals a powerup and starts stomping, Goku/Gohan deus ex their way to victory. Words cannot even begin to describe the joke that is Fairy Fail. Up until the Pein arc, fights in Naruto were unpredictable and the winner was often decided by who was the better strategist, not who had more hax jutsus. At one point, the story had significant depth and complexity (albeit not to the same extent as One Piece), it left you wondering about the unrevealed secrets (again not as consistently well done as One Piece), and no manga has remotely close to as many emotionally moving scenes (and no, things like Robin's backstory, Wiper's Light of Cyandora scene, or Ace's death scene don't even come close to Sasori's backstory, the confrontation at the Valley of the End, or any of Naruto's death scenes). I'd even go as far as arguing Naruto at it's very best is better than One Piece (OP>Naruto overall though due to the latter's inconsistency), and at the very least Naruto>>>>>>>>Bleach/DBZ/Fairy Tail.

Stone RG said:
Overrated krillin is overrated, 3 arcs ago i wouldve said he solo'd anyone in naruto cuz he Lolz at OP or bleach power levels (tho i know barely anything from the latter), but then naruto dodged the fastest guy in earth's punch and madara pulled a meteor from sky.

But i agree with chou, higher power levels =\= great manga, i personally find naruto and OP really good, fairytail used to be good as well, but yea not anymore. So how do you guys qualify a manga as good?
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Umm you sure we're reading the same manga? Fairy Tail has literally been the exact same thing since D1.

IMO, the most important criteria are:
-how likeable and deep are the characters (Naruto is amazing at showing the inner clockwork of every character, Fairy Tail is horrifyingly terrible)
-how well the story is paced and how well everything is tied in (One Piece is otherworldly at keeping everything in line, Kateyo Hitman Reborn has no direction whatsoever)
-how the conflict is built up, maintained, and resolved, doesn't necessarily have to be a fight (Fullmetal Alchemist is non-stop action and suspense, DBZ is guaranteed to be resolved by deus ex machina)
-how much it makes you think and how are big reveals are handled (Death Note makes your jaw drop because you don't see half the stuff coming, Bleach makes your jaw drop because it's blatantly obvious complete asspull)
-the most telling characteristic is if you start at chapter 1, how motivated are you to continue reading (Death Note/FMA make you almost want to read every chapter in 1 sitting, Fairy Tail makes you want to break your laptop)
 
Outlaw said:
Tien defeated Saibamen before, shattered Nappa's armor, blasted down Semi-Perfect Cell, battled the Cell Jrs, AND shocked Gohan with the strength of his Tri-Beam Cannon against Gotenks empowered Super Buu.

He's the only human who CONTINUED to train.
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I think I remember reading somewhere on Dragonball Wiki that Tien is the strongest human on earth in DBZ. That does make perfect sense, but I forget where I read it.




Also, Aldaron wins this thread.
 
@ New World Order

Really? Because I found characters in Bleach to feel way more realistic and easier to relate to than any Naruto character. It just feels...... bland.....
 
Furosuto said:
@ New World Order

Really? Because I found characters in Bleach to feel way more realistic and easier to relate to than any Naruto character. It just feels...... bland.....
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Err? Itachi feels bland to you?

Just because a character is "more realistic" doesn't necessarily mean they're more emotionally moving. Very few of us are perverted martial arts masters who travel the world with toads looking for a pupil who changes the course of the world, doesn't change the fact that you cry a few tears when Jiraiya dies. A lot of people probably feel like they have no purpose in life and don't really understand how human emotions work, doesn't mean anyone bats an eyelash when Ulqiorra dies.
 
DBZ characters are super overpowered, but, there is an immense potential for power in Naruto. If one Naruto character had Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan, Rinnegan, could access the inner chakra gates, and was the Jinchuriki of all tailed beasts, that would be extremely powerful. Although no one in Naruto has all of these powers, I believe that those combinations of abilities and powers could make one Naruto character stronger than a DBZ character.
 
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