Bartman101
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We should be sticking to the topic here. It's a very serious matter.
I reckon we would help if we had any money.
I reckon we would help if we had any money.
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I've heard that the organisation behind all this, Invisible Children, is rather sketchy so I'm not taking one side or the other.
Also, this video is a half hour long and I haven't watched it. Can someone tell me if I'm missing anything crucial by not watching it that I haven't already briefly looked over on the Kony wikipedia page?
Lastly, I don't want to sound like a dick, but why can't African countries ever handle their own shit? Motherfuckers gonna cry oppression and shit from Europe and then when they get it, their countries fall to shit and there is literally no infrastructure at all in place (partially Europe's fault, partially <African Country's> fault). Then civilised countries have to come in and stop whatever retarded atrocities are happening with our money that we don't have just so something worse or similar can happen again in a different country a few years later? It's fucking stupid and I find it really really hard to care about Africa as a whole anymore, but I'm already pretty cynical as it is.
Also, this video is a half hour long and I haven't watched it. Can someone tell me if I'm missing anything crucial by not watching it that I haven't already briefly looked over on the Kony wikipedia page?
Lastly, I don't want to sound like a dick, but why can't African countries ever handle their own shit? Motherfuckers gonna cry oppression and shit from Europe and then when they get it, their countries fall to shit and there is literally no infrastructure at all in place (partially Europe's fault, partially <African Country's> fault). Then civilised countries have to come in and stop whatever retarded atrocities are happening with our money that we don't have just so something worse or similar can happen again in a different country a few years later? It's fucking stupid and I find it really really hard to care about Africa as a whole anymore, but I'm already pretty cynical as it is.
The end justifies the means in this case.
Yes, there have been some rumors concerning Invisible Children. I do not know if they have been verified or not. However, whatever they are doing in the wayside is not nearly as important as the cause they stand for. Its unbelievably important, and embarrassing how the world just stood by.
As for African countries "not managing their own shit." How do you propose they would do that, Alan? They are most certainly underprivileged. Not enough funding, experience, power, etc.
Yes, there have been some rumors concerning Invisible Children. I do not know if they have been verified or not. However, whatever they are doing in the wayside is not nearly as important as the cause they stand for. Its unbelievably important, and embarrassing how the world just stood by.
As for African countries "not managing their own shit." How do you propose they would do that, Alan? They are most certainly underprivileged. Not enough funding, experience, power, etc.
no, you've missed the point
the cause is still genuine and still valid, because it raises awareness about the crimes kony is responsible for
even if they make money on the side (which, again, i'm really not convinced this is about since their expenditure seems to go straight back into the mass campaigning you're seeing evidence of here) then they still get the message out about a decent cause
the cause is still genuine and still valid, because it raises awareness about the crimes kony is responsible for
even if they make money on the side (which, again, i'm really not convinced this is about since their expenditure seems to go straight back into the mass campaigning you're seeing evidence of here) then they still get the message out about a decent cause
http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
Man, I just want a better way to help, I don't need it to be perfect but some standard should be there.
Man, I just want a better way to help, I don't need it to be perfect but some standard should be there.
Africa has been treated quite badly by the world powers over the years, though:
Zambia: "USA, can I borrow $2bn to buy some corn from Malawi?"
USA: "I've got a better idea! You borrow $8bn from us! You can buy corn from us for 6 of them, and some of our outdated weaponry for the remaining 2bn"
Zambia: "But why? I only need $2bn! Malawian corn is so much cheaper!"
USA: "We give you both the money and the corn. And some nice weapons too! Everybody wins."
Zambia is then $8bn in debt, Malawi can't sell its corn, and lots of weapons are floating around. The USA have now sold away corn and guns for $8bn, and they will still get $8bn from Zambia from the loan, plus interest.
Not saying it's just an American thing - the Norwegian government did exactly the same with some old rusty ships in the nineties. And I bet there are loads more examples if you just look long enough.
Never mind that the African "countries" were never national states. The Europeans just divided the land between them, and all the people within the borders then had to cooperate to get things going after gaining independence. By that time, they were hopelessly behind the rest of the world in terms of industry, infrastructure and whatnot, while foreign companies already had the rights to extract and export most of the natural resources in the country. Those contracts weren't exactly written after consulting the population...
Zambia: "USA, can I borrow $2bn to buy some corn from Malawi?"
USA: "I've got a better idea! You borrow $8bn from us! You can buy corn from us for 6 of them, and some of our outdated weaponry for the remaining 2bn"
Zambia: "But why? I only need $2bn! Malawian corn is so much cheaper!"
USA: "We give you both the money and the corn. And some nice weapons too! Everybody wins."
Zambia is then $8bn in debt, Malawi can't sell its corn, and lots of weapons are floating around. The USA have now sold away corn and guns for $8bn, and they will still get $8bn from Zambia from the loan, plus interest.
Not saying it's just an American thing - the Norwegian government did exactly the same with some old rusty ships in the nineties. And I bet there are loads more examples if you just look long enough.
Never mind that the African "countries" were never national states. The Europeans just divided the land between them, and all the people within the borders then had to cooperate to get things going after gaining independence. By that time, they were hopelessly behind the rest of the world in terms of industry, infrastructure and whatnot, while foreign companies already had the rights to extract and export most of the natural resources in the country. Those contracts weren't exactly written after consulting the population...
I am all for spreading awareness of how terrible Joseph Kony is, but the Invisible Children charity is not the way to do it. As B-Lulz's article has pointed out and many others cropping up in response to this video, the charity itself is shady and often times advocating for poor solutions (for example, propping up the Ugandan military). Remember that just eliminating Joseph Kony won't end the crisis. There are larger forces at work here than his despicable actions.
If you are rightfully outraged by the contents of the video, write to your senator/congressman/parliamentary representative etc and advocate for more action on this tragedy. I can't recommend donating to this particular charity though.
If you are rightfully outraged by the contents of the video, write to your senator/congressman/parliamentary representative etc and advocate for more action on this tragedy. I can't recommend donating to this particular charity though.
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also another interesting article, highlighting the fact that uganda's government has equally deep-rooted issues right now in light of the kony awareness.
what kony is doing is certainly an atrocity, and regardless of how long he has been committing his crimes, awareness now is not a bad thing. however, I think what more people should think about is that Kony and his crimes are running rampant because uganda is run by a government/officials that allow it to happen. it's like acting against kony is just snipping off the branch of an infected tree. yes, it is definitely more difficult to try and correct a government than one of it's derivative problems, but it's still something to think about.
The thing is that Joseph Kony has been doing this for a very, very, very long time. He emerged about a quarter of a century, which is about the same time that Uganda’s President Yoweri Museveni came to power. As a result the fates of these two leaders must, I think, be viewed together. Yet, though President Museveni must be integral to any solution to this problem, I didn’t hear him mentioned once in the 30-minute video. I thought that this was a crucial omission. Invisible Children asked viewers to seek the engagement of American policymakers and celebrities, but – and this is a major red flag – it didn’t introduce them to the many Northern Ugandans already doing fantastic work both in their local communities and in the diaspora. It didn’t ask its viewers to seek diplomatic pressure on President Museveni’s administration.
what kony is doing is certainly an atrocity, and regardless of how long he has been committing his crimes, awareness now is not a bad thing. however, I think what more people should think about is that Kony and his crimes are running rampant because uganda is run by a government/officials that allow it to happen. it's like acting against kony is just snipping off the branch of an infected tree. yes, it is definitely more difficult to try and correct a government than one of it's derivative problems, but it's still something to think about.
I'm not really feeling it, the guy in that video sounded like such a self righteous douche.
And I also don't feel like anyone really cares, they're just doing this because of peer pressure.
And I also don't feel like anyone really cares, they're just doing this because of peer pressure.
I feel like if people really cared they would go over there and fight the war themselves, not just post about how evil this guy is for manipulating kids on the internet.
Somebody is going to have to die to stop him, is it going to be you or them?
lol..is this guy (mixmewtwo or whatever) kidding me?
important fact: if you think something should be done, then do it yourself. toothache? get the fuckin pliers out pussy.
important fact: if you think something should be done, then do it yourself. toothache? get the fuckin pliers out pussy.
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