Since the only real consensus counter for rp rhydon I've seen listed here is marshtomp, might a passho berry rhydon work?
Whoops lol ill switch to fire punch. I don't know about endeavor, because that makes fake out kinda useless. Picture this:Splitting EVs or running the Endeavor set are good options because Flare Blitz is just dumb on a Sasher.
Unfortunately, that dies to Machoke. It'll get rocks up, but it'll die without doing much back.LeadApe should be more effective in Middle Cup than OU.
4 HP/ 252 ATK/ 252 SPE
~Grass Knot/Flare Blitz
So, you already see the concept basically. Break sash, then break neck. However, it should work great in Middle Cup. Since Gabite always only can counter it with SR, you shouldn't have to worry about rocks getting in your way. The last slot really depends on what you hate. Grass Knot ends all Marshtomp, while Flare Blitz can stop Roselia. HP: Ice can be used for Gabite if you want, as it also gets some coverage on Roserade, however it dosen't have STAB and dosen't cover a lot CC can't. A great thing is that it's the fastest SR user in Middle Cup other than Gabite (BY ONE POINT!) and can't be stopped by much. Nobody likes a CC right in their face, other than ghosts, who are stopped by a good Pursuiter. Sadly though, Pursuit can only be used by Pidgeotto, Nidorina, Pupitar, Grovyle, Vigoroth, Metang, and Staravia which have crappy attack and no STAB. Another ghost stopper is a strong steel willing to take an HP: Fire or Fighting.
I like this idea for Dragonair but I don't see the use of Quiet over Modest if you aren't going mixed. Adamant Rhydon with 252 Speed BEFORE Rock Polish outspeeds Quiet Dragonair, but Modest with 12 EV's in Spe will outspeed it and has a 81.33% chance for a OHKO with Draco Meteor. Also, my brain is a little slow right now because I'm still tired, but who is Flamethrower for?Dragonair?@ Leftovers
126 HP/216 Sp.Atk/126 Def/48 Sp.Def
Bolded comments are bolded.My experiences so far, after 7-8 battles:
CB Gabite is really good. Like, really really good. It 2HKOs Magneton and Dusclops with Outrage, so you basically have to run Piloswine/Ice Punch Metang to stop it or sacrifice something. The only downside is Outrage's confusion after 3 turns.
People still prefer Scarf, though. It checks a lot of stuff.
Chansey is a good team player. The best physical walls (Marshtomp, Dusclops) lack reliable recovery, so Wish support often proves essential. It's nowhere near "unbreakable" like people claim it to be, though.
Chansey in MC is actually pretty identical to Chansey in UU - helpful but often a hindrance regarding how easy it is to set up on it (read: subdon). So I wouldn't vouch that much.
Roselia, as I stated previously in this topic, is an awesome lead. Leaf Storm/HP Psychic/Toxic Spikes/Sleep Powder @ Sash only loses to Monferno.
It still loses to a Golbat that uses BB twice, as you'll need to HP Psychic twice to beat it predicting Taunt anyway. You can still beat it, but only if you predict correctly. Also, it always loses to Lum Golbat.
Rhydon is FUCKING BROKEN. Notice the emphasis. Once it gets a RP, there is no stopping it.
If it isn't Jolly, a lot of revenge killers stop it. If it isn't Adamant, a full health Adamant Rhydon can take a hit and KO back with LO, albeit usually killing itself with LO recoil. A Rhydon lacking Substitute is stopped by Split-WoW Dusclops, I guess.
Haunter is also pretty good. SubSplit versions can beat Chansey, but they lose to Metang.
It wins vs Metang if it Shadow Balls twice. A Metang will have a hard time dealing enough damage to KO Haunter with BP, even with LO. (it also wins with HP + Shadow Ball from my experiences with LO Haunter vs Metang, though I'm not sure how well it fares against purely defensive Metang)
Metang without LO/Band simply doesn't do enough damage, so you have to choose between bulk and versatility. This is where Chansey's Wish support kicks in again.
Metang probably 2HKOs with BP with minor Atk investment and no LO, so I see a defensive set topping LO sets. Besides, Metang needs a little bulk to reliably come in on Gabite Outrages / Dragonair in general (4 SpA LO Fire Blast fails to OHKO, and I'm saying this from experience)
Belly Drum Magmar is deadly once set up.
Marshtomp is one of the best defensive Pokemon. It cannot beat Rhydon reliably as Jolly EQ 2HKOs, but it puts a full stop to SD Monferno and Magneton without HP Grass.
I haven't done so well with Marshtomp to be honest. It usually dishes damage to a Poke and dies eventually, which I find less than stellar.
Since I have a Chansey, I will refrain from commenting about Kadabra or Agility P2. I've found them pretty easy to handle.