Minecraft Discussion Thread

What day should we fight the Ender Dragon?

  • Sat, Dec 15

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    Votes: 47 37.9%
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    Votes: 72 58.1%

  • Total voters
    124
Those blocks acutally look good. I can see them being used for a maiyan sort of temple design.

And with this griefer, too bad that workbenches aren't that versatile for looking up who did what.

Has there been a pattern though for what they've been griefing?
 
Ah, 1.2 preview is out! There's still some bugs in it, however.

There's 2 new sandstone-like textures that are unused yet, but look pretty cool:
__


I want that new Stone block to be craftable!! :/
 
Trailer looks cool, but it kinda gives away what I had planed for our map when 1.2 comes out. :(


Here's the plan:

When we get a jungle biome (I still don't know how, but you'll figure something out), I wanna build a temple in it. We already have that nice new Stone block texture (hope it becomes craftable), and along with Mossy Stone Bricks from the stronghold, the thing will look really cool. It's gonna be a big project for sure, but that's what we play on a multiplayer server for, right? ;)

The design I had in mind was something like this or this. Inside, I wanna have a monument made of gold blocks, which I already started caving for. I have around... 16. :(

So, I'm waiting for input. Any ideas/suggestions?
 
Trailer looks cool, but it kinda gives away what I had planed for our map when 1.2 comes out. :(


Here's the plan:

When we get a jungle biome (I still don't know how, but you'll figure something out), I wanna build a temple in it. We already have that nice new Stone block texture (hope it becomes craftable), and along with Mossy Stone Bricks from the stronghold, the thing will look really cool. It's gonna be a big project for sure, but that's what we play on a multiplayer server for, right? ;)

The design I had in mind was something like this or this. Inside, I wanna have a monument made of gold blocks, which I already started caving for. I have around... 16. :(

So, I'm waiting for input. Any ideas/suggestions?
Well that sounds awesome! And for ideas/suggestions I suggest that if you need Gold Blocks you could always go to nether and make a Pigman farm, or be a Man! and just attack them :D
 
Two questions to ask of admins:

Are we going to update the server to 1.2 once bukkit updates their thing?

Are we going to get the jungle biomes and increased world height?
 

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We'll get increased world height by default and jungle biomes by default, its just that jungle biomes will only appear where we haven't already explored which is HOPEFULLY not too far out yet...
 
I was going over the 1.2 changelist and saw this: "Due to popular demand, Seed info is now "0" in SMP to avoid people recreating the world in SSP"



WHY? Who the hell would want this?
 
Two questions to ask of admins:

Are we going to update the server to 1.2 once bukkit updates their thing?

Are we going to get the jungle biomes and increased world height?
yeah, pretty much just waiting on bukkit. we're considering trimming away everything past x/z=horsecock so that we don't have to go too far for new content. anyone owning developments past +/- 1500 in any dimension should contact me asap with the exact coordinates so we can figure out how much we can safely excise.
 

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Benvdd will be trying to find a nice nearby empty biome that will be a jungle in the new seed layout and delete it. We will try to not delete anybodies stuff. So hopefully we won't have to go to the border edges just to find a jungle. I'll bring over some nice giant trees to the spawn tree farm with a well deserved expansion.

If anyone tries to build any huge ass towers anywhere near spawn enjoy your swift deletion from yours truly and I'll also send you some links about the concept of sight-lines.


EDIT: Ninja forks, but our information is both needed.
 

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I was going over the 1.2 changelist and saw this: "Due to popular demand, Seed info is now "0" in SMP to avoid people recreating the world in SSP"



WHY? Who the hell would want this?
People could locate all the diamonds and such in singleplayer, and go to that location in SMP.
 
I'm exited about getting the jungle! :)

I really hope we#ll have a Jungle Biome next to an Extreme Hills Biome... imagine a temple inside the hills, being accessible from the jungle by climbing trees and wooden bridges!
 
I think I have an idea of where we could explore that is easy to get to through the nether. Just behind my house is a snow biome, and I bet beyond that area it hasn't been rendered yet. Once 1.2 comes out, we could gather up an expedition team and look around there.

Through an access of nether portals really. So it won't take long to get there. Let's hope it hasn't been explored, shall we?
 
I think I have an idea of where we could explore that is easy to get to through the nether. Just behind my house is a snow biome, and I bet beyond that area it hasn't been rendered yet. Once 1.2 comes out, we could gather up an expedition team and look around there.

Through an access of nether portals really. So it won't take long to get there. Let's hope it hasn't been explored, shall we?
You don't need to hope, you can look at the world map yourself. Anything that shows up there has been rendered.
 
Finally changed my fourm name to Chival =D
also, an update on Plae Pass for you guys =)
a nice picture looking towards the opposite side of the towers seen in the first pic and a map of the Town (thanks to renegade for that =) )


 
Would it be noobish to ask in this thread... how to get on to the Smogon server?
Not noobish. ^.^
You need to whitelist yourself - that's easy to do by joining #smogcraft on synirc. The IP is on there as well.

Guys, I have problems with Minecraft crashing, and I'm pretty sure it's not a memory thing, it just dead closes without any error message. All I get is an error report in my minecraft folder. I'll just post an example text of one here:

#
# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#
# EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x7c9209f9, pid=4036, tid=2464
#
# JRE version: 6.0_31-b05
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.6-b01 mixed mode windows-x86 )
# Problematic frame:
# C [ntdll.dll+0x109f9]
#
# If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
# http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
# The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code.
# See problematic frame for where to report the bug.
#

--------------- T H R E A D ---------------

Current thread (0x4a0ef400): JavaThread "Minecraft main thread" daemon [_thread_in_native, id=2464, stack(0x4a4e0000,0x4a530000)]

siginfo: ExceptionCode=0xc0000005, reading address 0x3f800000

Registers:
EAX=0x76915338, EBX=0x4a4a0000, ECX=0x3f800000, EDX=0x3f800000
ESP=0x4a52ef80, EBP=0x4a52ef8c, ESI=0x76915330, EDI=0x768eb620
EIP=0x7c9209f9, EFLAGS=0x00010246

Top of Stack: (sp=0x4a52ef80)
0x4a52ef80: 4a4a0000 768eb620 00000001 4a52f060
0x4a52ef90: 7c92082c 4a4a0000 3f800000 4a52f044
0x4a52efa0: 00000000 00000040 768eb680 4bc70000
0x4a52efb0: 49420000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x4a52efc0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x4a52efd0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x4a52efe0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x4a52eff0: 6eed7008 00000000 000000ba 00000000

Instructions: (pc=0x7c9209f9)
0x7c9209d9: 85 a1 88 03 00 8a 46 05 24 10 a8 10 88 47 05 0f
0x7c9209e9: 85 92 00 00 00 8b 4e 0c 8d 46 08 8b 10 89 4d 0c
0x7c9209f9: 8b 09 3b 4a 04 89 55 14 0f 85 2b 0d 00 00 3b c8
0x7c920a09: 0f 85 23 0d 00 00 56 53 e8 4e fc ff ff 8b 45 14


Register to memory mapping:

EAX=0x76915338 is an unknown value
EBX=0x4a4a0000 is an unknown value
ECX=0x3f800000 is an unallocated location in the heap
EDX=0x3f800000 is an unallocated location in the heap
ESP=0x4a52ef80 is pointing into the stack for thread: 0x4a0ef400
EBP=0x4a52ef8c is pointing into the stack for thread: 0x4a0ef400
ESI=0x76915330 is an unknown value
EDI=0x768eb620 is an unknown value


Stack: [0x4a4e0000,0x4a530000], sp=0x4a52ef80, free space=315k
Native frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code, C=native code)
C [ntdll.dll+0x109f9]
C [ntdll.dll+0x1082c]

Java frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code)
J org.lwjgl.opengl.GL11.nglVertex3f(FFFJ)V
J mq.a(I)V
J mq.a(Ljava/lang/String;Z)V
J mq.a(Ljava/lang/String;IIIZ)V
J ku.a(Lrf;DDDF)V
J ku.a(Lkf;DDDF)V
J aai.a(Lkf;F)V
J l.a(Lbk;Lajo;F)V
J kz.a(FJ)V
J kz.b(F)V
J net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.x()V
J net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run()V
j java.lang.Thread.run()V+11
v ~StubRoutines::call_stub

--------------- P R O C E S S ---------------

Java Threads: ( => current thread )
0x4a40ec00 JavaThread "Client write thread" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3872, stack(0x5e7b0000,0x5e800000)]
0x58e08c00 JavaThread "Client read thread" daemon [_thread_in_native, id=2652, stack(0x5e5b0000,0x5e600000)]
0x48d30400 JavaThread "File IO Thread" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=2616, stack(0x59100000,0x59150000)]
0x48fe8400 JavaThread "Thread-14" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=1324, stack(0x4de40000,0x4de90000)]
0x48cfec00 JavaThread "Thread-13" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=2172, stack(0x4ddf0000,0x4de40000)]
0x4a15b400 JavaThread "Thread-12" daemon [_thread_in_native, id=2376, stack(0x4dda0000,0x4ddf0000)]
=>0x4a0ef400 JavaThread "Minecraft main thread" daemon [_thread_in_native, id=2464, stack(0x4a4e0000,0x4a530000)]
0x4a0eec00 JavaThread "Timer hack thread" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3216, stack(0x4a040000,0x4a090000)]
0x4918bc00 JavaThread "TimerQueue" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3936, stack(0x49680000,0x496d0000)]
0x4910a400 JavaThread "D3D Screen Updater" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3364, stack(0x495c0000,0x49610000)]
0x003a6800 JavaThread "DestroyJavaVM" [_thread_blocked, id=1316, stack(0x009c0000,0x00a10000)]
0x49049400 JavaThread "AWT-EventQueue-0" [_thread_blocked, id=3360, stack(0x494b0000,0x49500000)]
0x4903ec00 JavaThread "AWT-Windows" daemon [_thread_in_native, id=2948, stack(0x492f0000,0x49340000)]
0x49039400 JavaThread "AWT-Shutdown" [_thread_blocked, id=2008, stack(0x492a0000,0x492f0000)]
0x4902b400 JavaThread "Java2D Disposer" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=2004, stack(0x49250000,0x492a0000)]
0x48ce1000 JavaThread "Low Memory Detector" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3204, stack(0x48f30000,0x48f80000)]
0x48cdbc00 JavaThread "C1 CompilerThread0" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3200, stack(0x48ee0000,0x48f30000)]
0x48cd9400 JavaThread "Attach Listener" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3208, stack(0x48e90000,0x48ee0000)]
0x48cd8000 JavaThread "Signal Dispatcher" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3064, stack(0x48e40000,0x48e90000)]
0x48cca400 JavaThread "Finalizer" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=2428, stack(0x48df0000,0x48e40000)]
0x48cc5800 JavaThread "Reference Handler" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=2148, stack(0x48da0000,0x48df0000)]

Other Threads:
0x48cc1c00 VMThread [stack: 0x48d50000,0x48da0000] [id=2624]
0x48cebc00 WatcherThread [stack: 0x48f80000,0x48fd0000] [id=2896]

VM state:not at safepoint (normal execution)

VM Mutex/Monitor currently owned by a thread: None

Heap
def new generation total 157376K, used 47037K [0x02a90000, 0x0d550000, 0x17fe0000)
eden space 139904K, 25% used [0x02a90000, 0x04db6170, 0x0b330000)
from space 17472K, 63% used [0x0b330000, 0x0bdf9658, 0x0c440000)
to space 17472K, 0% used [0x0c440000, 0x0c440000, 0x0d550000)
tenured generation total 349568K, used 292347K [0x17fe0000, 0x2d540000, 0x42a90000)
the space 349568K, 83% used [0x17fe0000, 0x29d5edc8, 0x29d5ee00, 0x2d540000)
compacting perm gen total 18176K, used 18158K [0x42a90000, 0x43c50000, 0x46a90000)
the space 18176K, 99% used [0x42a90000, 0x43c4ba38, 0x43c4bc00, 0x43c50000)
No shared spaces configured.

Code Cache [0x00a10000, 0x01228000, 0x02a10000)
total_blobs=3974 nmethods=3621 adapters=285 free_code_cache=25099904 largest_free_block=384

Dynamic libraries:
0x00400000 - 0x00425000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe
0x7c910000 - 0x7c9c6000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
0x7c800000 - 0x7c908000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
0x77da0000 - 0x77e4a000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
0x77e50000 - 0x77ee2000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
0x77fc0000 - 0x77fd1000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\Secur32.dll
0x7e360000 - 0x7e3f1000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
0x77ef0000 - 0x77f39000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
0x76330000 - 0x7634d000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.DLL
0x7c340000 - 0x7c396000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\msvcr71.dll
0x6d7f0000 - 0x6da9f000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\client\jvm.dll
0x76af0000 - 0x76b1e000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
0x6d7a0000 - 0x6d7ac000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\verify.dll
0x6d320000 - 0x6d33f000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\java.dll
0x6d7e0000 - 0x6d7ef000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\zip.dll
0x6d000000 - 0x6d14c000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\awt.dll
0x72f70000 - 0x72f96000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV
0x77be0000 - 0x77c38000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
0x774b0000 - 0x775ed000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
0x773a0000 - 0x774a3000 C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.5512_x-ww_35d4ce83\COMCTL32.dll
0x77f40000 - 0x77fb6000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
0x5ad70000 - 0x5ada8000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\uxtheme.dll
0x746a0000 - 0x746ec000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSCTF.dll
0x49380000 - 0x4938e000 C:\Programme\Logitech\SetPoint\lgscroll.dll
0x78130000 - 0x781cb000 C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4053_x-ww_e6967989\MSVCR80.dll
0x77660000 - 0x77681000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\NTMARTA.DLL
0x71b70000 - 0x71b83000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
0x76f20000 - 0x76f4d000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
0x75250000 - 0x7527e000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\msctfime.ime
0x7e670000 - 0x7ee91000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\shell32.dll
0x6d230000 - 0x6d27f000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\fontmanager.dll
0x4fd50000 - 0x4fef6000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d9.dll
0x6de80000 - 0x6de86000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8thk.dll
0x77bd0000 - 0x77bd8000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
0x6d600000 - 0x6d613000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\net.dll
0x71a10000 - 0x71a27000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
0x71a00000 - 0x71a08000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
0x6d620000 - 0x6d629000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\nio.dll
0x719b0000 - 0x719f0000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\mswsock.dll
0x76ee0000 - 0x76f07000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\DNSAPI.dll
0x76f70000 - 0x76f78000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
0x68000000 - 0x68036000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\rsaenh.dll
0x76f80000 - 0x76f86000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasadhlp.dll
0x76620000 - 0x766d6000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USERENV.dll
0x66710000 - 0x66769000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll
0x719f0000 - 0x719f8000 C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
0x597d0000 - 0x59825000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\netapi32.dll
0x6d780000 - 0x6d788000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\sunmscapi.dll
0x77a50000 - 0x77ae6000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll
0x77af0000 - 0x77b02000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll
0x4a530000 - 0x4a59b000 C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\deckers.pcdeckers2\Anwendungsdaten\.minecraft\bin\natives\lwjgl.dll
0x5f0d0000 - 0x5f19c000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\OPENGL32.dll
0x68fc0000 - 0x68fe0000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\GLU32.dll
0x736d0000 - 0x7371b000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\DDRAW.dll
0x73b30000 - 0x73b36000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\DCIMAN32.dll
0x6d350000 - 0x6d356000 C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin\jawt.dll
0x69500000 - 0x6a39c000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvoglnt.dll
0x4dba0000 - 0x4dbb3000 C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\deckers.pcdeckers2\Anwendungsdaten\.minecraft\bin\natives\jinput-dx8.dll
0x4dbc0000 - 0x4dbf9000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\DINPUT8.dll
0x68d90000 - 0x68d99000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\HID.DLL
0x778f0000 - 0x779e4000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.DLL
0x76bf0000 - 0x76c1e000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll
0x76c50000 - 0x76c78000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll
0x4dd70000 - 0x4dd82000 C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\deckers.pcdeckers2\Anwendungsdaten\.minecraft\bin\natives\jinput-raw.dll
0x4de90000 - 0x4dfb9000 C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\deckers.pcdeckers2\Anwendungsdaten\.minecraft\bin\natives\OpenAL32.dll
0x73e70000 - 0x73ecc000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\dsound.dll
0x72c90000 - 0x72c99000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv
0x72c80000 - 0x72c88000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv
0x77bb0000 - 0x77bc5000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSACM32.dll
0x77ba0000 - 0x77ba7000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll
0x73e40000 - 0x73e44000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\KsUser.dll
0x49440000 - 0x4944b000 C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL

VM Arguments:
jvm_args: -Xms512m -Xmx1024m
java_command: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\deckers.pcdeckers2\Desktop\MINECRAFT\Minecraft.exe
Launcher Type: SUN_STANDARD

Environment Variables:
CLASSPATH=.;C:\Programme\Java\jre6\lib\ext\QTJava.zip
PATH=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32\WBEM;c:\Programme\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\Programme\ChemOffice2002\Common\DLLs;C:\Programme\Bio-Rad Laboratories\Bin;C:\Programme\Gemeinsame Dateien\Autodesk Shared\;C:\Programme\Gemeinsame Dateien\MDL Shared\ISIS;C:\Programme\Gemeinsame Dateien\Adobe\AGL;C:\WINDOWS\system32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0;C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727;D:\Programme\QuickTime\QTSystem\;C:\Programme\Java\jre6\bin
USERNAME=deckers
OS=Windows_NT
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=x86 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10, GenuineIntel



--------------- S Y S T E M ---------------

OS: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 3

CPU:total 2 (2 cores per cpu, 1 threads per core) family 6 model 23 stepping 10, cmov, cx8, fxsr, mmx, sse, sse2, sse3, ssse3, sse4.1

Memory: 4k page, physical 3406820k(1483324k free), swap 5335796k(3492144k free)

vm_info: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.6-b01) for windows-x86 JRE (1.6.0_31-b05), built on Feb 3 2012 18:44:09 by "java_re" with MS VC++ 7.1 (VS2003)

time: Tue Feb 28 00:47:28 2012
elapsed time: 4337 seconds


The filename is hs_err_pid4036.log

I've noticed a pattern with the crashes - they always happen online, and they always happen when I walk around in too many different areas. For example: I spawn, I go to Oho Oasis, I visit the Nether -> At this point, Minecraft crashes. My theory is that I just load too much of the world at one time, since if I just walk around in caves around Oho, or just stand infront of the Blaze Grinder, nothing happens. But as soon as I walk some miles - boom. The window just dissappears, as described above. I already tried a million things to allocate more ram to minecraft, but none of them worked, but as I said, I doubt it's a memory issue. I've had that before as well, but it happens VERY rarely.

HALP PLZ. :(
 
My solution to all things crash related: delete .bin folder and re-download a fresh one. If you are using client mods, ensure the META-INF folder is deleted.

If that doesn't work, I believe the Optifine mod has a lot of performance toggles that allow for different spec PCs to run the game efficiently, for example changing the number of chunks rendered. Could give that a go.

If that fails... try re-installing java... gl
 

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