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Whatever happened to the multiverse I heard someone say a while ago?
 
I'm torn between wanting to start over or keep going. I know I was not there for tue beginning but what we have right now is really nice. However what I think that we should do is add some personal and server challenges such as a parkour area some racing areas. Also when the gym system starts up we can have more multiplayer challenges.
 
I just joined and I've found it fairly difficult to grab resources/places to build/etc so I'd be all for restarting the server.

I could make a golf course on the new one.
 
I totally get the apprehension with respect to starting anew because, yeah, a lot of hard work goes down the drain. But at the same time, I personally always hit a point in minecraft where I feel I've basically "won" - I have stacks of iron blocks, a bunch of diamond, an endless food supply, a nice house, etc. At that point, what's left, really? I go explore some, maybe do some strip mining or build a new house, but really, there's only so much you can do with a world. As a consequence of this, I've barely been on smogcraft in months, and I suspect I'm not the only one.

I definitely agree that the most fun part of a server is its beginnings, and I think the update release cycle that mojang seems to be going for henceforth (i.e. huge releases punctuating enormous gaps of time) works really well for this sort of thing: several months of time, new features, start anew.
 
Flounder said:
I totally get the apprehension with respect to starting anew because, yeah, a lot of hard work goes down the drain. But at the same time, I personally always hit a point in minecraft where I feel I've basically "won" - I have stacks of iron blocks, a bunch of diamond, an endless food supply, a nice house, etc. At that point, what's left, really? I go explore some, maybe do some strip mining or build a new house, but really, there's only so much you can do with a world. As a consequence of this, I've barely been on smogcraft in months, and I suspect I'm not the only one.

I definitely agree that the most fun part of a server is its beginnings, and I think the update release cycle that mojang seems to be going for henceforth (i.e. huge releases punctuating enormous gaps of time) works really well for this sort of thing: several months of time, new features, start anew.
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I'm in the same vein as Flounder...I don't think I've really logged on much either. Granted I don't have diamond everything with enchantment of xyz, but I've always felt more than self-sufficient, and random creeper blasts aside, nothing just seems that threatening (though a trek into an unexplored mineshaft that just goes on forever with no end still piques my interest).

Personally, I'm more incline to think this is more of a design problem over the server; there's only so much building and exploring one can do before inevitably getting a bit tired of it and wanting to stop for some. If the game had like some random world boss spawns or a few select mobs in the daytime to make things more interesting, it'd be one thing, but otherwise once you're largely self-sufficient, there isn't a whole lot to do besides more exploring. It kinda loses that whole sense of newness and self-discover when you just start anew and have to camp out in caves and coves for your first few nights. And I think I'm rambling by now, so I'll stop XD
 
Flounder said:
I totally get the apprehension with respect to starting anew because, yeah, a lot of hard work goes down the drain. But at the same time, I personally always hit a point in minecraft where I feel I've basically "won" - I have stacks of iron blocks, a bunch of diamond, an endless food supply, a nice house, etc. At that point, what's left, really? I go explore some, maybe do some strip mining or build a new house, but really, there's only so much you can do with a world. As a consequence of this, I've barely been on smogcraft in months, and I suspect I'm not the only one.

I definitely agree that the most fun part of a server is its beginnings, and I think the update release cycle that mojang seems to be going for henceforth (i.e. huge releases punctuating enormous gaps of time) works really well for this sort of thing: several months of time, new features, start anew.
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At this point, its best to explore the other side of minecraft, building.
 
Sy123 said:
At this point, its best to explore the other side of minecraft, building.
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Exactly!!

Guys, I don't like where this is going. Not at all.

If we start a new map, I want to keep my jungle island, and I want forks (or someone else) to add it to the new map as a schematic with MCEdit or something. I really don't want to lose all that, I worked on this thing all by myself for the last 6 months, and everybody who has already been in the temple can tell you that it looks fucking amazing, eventhough it's not finished yet. :/

edit: I'll quote this from the last page in case you guys missed it. Posted by me:

I'm all for expanding the border/deleting some old stuff when 1.3 rolls around.
If you guys want, I'll take care of all the ugly transitions between old and new
terrain generation, as long as we don't start a new map. :/

There's still a lot of unexplored land on out map, even without 1.3 terrain
generation.
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No no no no no no no I am not down for starting a new map. I put a lot of time and effort into the different grinders I made and I don't want to see it all go down the drain, especially when now TNT is easily renewable (5 stacks of gunpowder at the new grinder only take around 100 mins). There's been a lot of work put in by everyone in making everything and at the moment people just seem to want a new map to try and keep smogcraft fresh. There's a number of ways we can do that with the existing map. We can always start building more for a start. If you make plans for a big project, like Rotom and Wyverii for example, you can be entertained for a loooong while. Afaik both of them still haven't finished their builds and it would be cruel to make them start from scratch.

For people who are getting bored of the current civilisation deal we have going: Please feel free to go adventure out and start a new town or something. We already have hardcore island which is kind of like a new server in that part itself. If you want you can go out and start a completely new town. And I'm sure there are still plenty of resources left, obviously you're not going to find any if you strip mine directly underneath a big city though. But exploring the overworld and going into cave systems is usually very rewarding. And there's still plenty of unclaimed land in all directions, although if people start claiming 200x200 plots then we should put a stop to that IMO. Also, if you want to build a golf course, surely you want to make it while we have a functioning enderpearl farm, since by golf I assume you mean endergolf (and not the silly minigolf game where you drop items on ice and hope they slide far enough). If you really want I'd be happy to provide some building materials and assistance.

If people are tired of what spawn looks like and want a fresh start, why not move spawn to a new location? I know I said I was against this in the past, but if it let's us keep the current server then I am more than happy if we move spawn.

Besides, what do we want to generate new areas for? Desert and Jungle temples? Is that really worth more than everything that already exists on the server? If you really want to see a desert temple, hell, I'll replicate one block for block in the desert.

That said, if we do start a new map, I have just two requests. If the admins could just MCEdit in the endergrinder and the mob grinder I'd be a lot happier. The ender grinder bit is in the end and if you edit in those chunks it shouldn't look strange at all considering the only thing that comes out of it is a one block wide pathway anyways. The mob grinder is in the middle of the ocean so while the surrounding caves may get messed up, I think the continuity between a few chunks is a small price to pay. By making these requests I'm not trying to undermine other people's requests for MCEditing their stuff in at all, just thought I'd make that clear.

tl;dr a million * no new server
 
I'm okay with a new map, spent hundreds of hours on this one building all sorts of stuff... but nothing beats a blank canvas, especially with the updates 1.3 will bring. Just make the current map available for download.
 
I think that black buddha has a good idea why not take the spawn and move it somewhere ells, that should make it feel like its an entirely new map. I still think that there are tings that we could do to add some challenge to the map, some people say that its to easy to survive, well how about making a giant dark area, we build a big roof at the world hight limit and just let stuff spawn everywhere. make it a no armor zone.
 
is there some way that we can copy the chunks with the buildings and stuff people absolutely dont want to lose and put them into a section of the new map? then go in with creative to try and make the transition of the land seem more natural? i dunno how you would go about doing that, though. i know that we've copied sections of the oo:sos arena map before with some sort of giant minecraft clone-stamp tool, right? would that be a possible solution?
 
Multivers seems like the best way to do it. Would taking away slots for the server take down potential lag? If so we could do that, I have never seen more than 6 people on the server at a time
 
6 slots is far too few, we need atleast 25. Especially if we do start a new server, activity will be sure to spike up. I'd be happy with multiverse but like others said, I'm not sure it'd do great considering the lag we have as it is
 
Nothing that I have built is worth anything on this server.

So I'm okay with making a newer one. Although it would be cool if we could take some of the really important things from this server and integrate it into a new server, such as the grinders, tree farms, and melon farms alike. For me, my favourite part about minecraft is always the beginning of a new game, where you have nothing with you, and you start anew. So I would be all for making a new server.
 
I see no point is starting a new map. Give a new map another 1-2 months and it will just be as civilised and built up as our current one. And we have so many awesome things on our server and there is a big project in the works for something epic too :D
 
No new map please :( maybe something along the lines of anarchy would be cool- once in a while, back up the server, reset the map, get a bunch of people on, and play a new map
 
I'm gonna base my opinion based on the villagers because of the upcoming villager trading.

We have 4 left somehow...I don't necessarily see any point to a new server unless we run out of those suckers.
 
A map reset isn't in the cards right now, it's pointless to argue either way. I don't know why this keeps coming up honestly, all it does is ruffle feathers. Those wanting a map reset are the vocal minority anyways.

megados said:
Would taking away slots for the server take down potential lag? If so we could do that, I have never seen more than 6 people on the server at a time
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No it wouldn't, not without actually locking people out. 6/50 won't be any different from 6/10.

Lady Salamence said:
maybe something along the lines of anarchy would be cool- once in a while, back up the server, reset the map, get a bunch of people on, and play a new map
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Last time we did this it jacked up the Nether and the End.
 
There is just so much stuff on smog now, all the big city's have had so much time sunk into them it would be a shame to loose all that. besides what is there that 1.3 brings that we honestly need to restart for? the temples are honestly more for single player imo, once someone finds one it will be raided and that'll be done. is that worth our world?
IF we do restart the map the only way people are going to be happy is if we can bring our existing city's and structures (or areas that will become a city in time =P) across to the new map. and at that point what's the point? that'll just screw up the new land people seem to want. =/
 
Can i just point out to everyone saying about their buildings etc that we basically did this when we started again from the original server, the buildings were bigger, cities more well developed, we had a fucking long distance rail line et al, lots of little towns spread out (RIP bilgewater) but we still restarted, and it was pretty refreshing to start anew
 
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