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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

I'd just like to ask something. Do synchronizers have to be first in the party to synch natures? Because I had a pokemon with synchronize in my party (3rd slot), and when I proceeded to RNG catch, I caught a pokemon on a synch frame, rather than the non-synch frame which I wanted.
 
Thats weird but no, since your sync was in the 3rd slot it didn't afected the pokemon.

Alright then, but if that's not the case, then is it possible that my sweet scent is varying on a bike? Because I sweet scented on frame 85, ended up on frame 88. I did this a few times so I decided to sweet scent from frame 84, and ended up on frame 87 (I think), but the pokemon is not the one represented by the encounter slot.
 
I have a question regarding Alternate Inheritance in Emerald.

I have a Lapras and a Ditto in the day care, and I currently have a Modest Water Absorb Lapras egg waiting. The Ditto has all 31's for IV's, and I know the Lapras has flawless Speed, which is all I need to know with the spread I will be hitting. I am aiming for frame 2391, which would give the baby Lapras a spread of 31/4/31/31/31/31. However, my game is currently in Alternate Inheritance mode. If I keep taking eggs and not saving, is there even a chance of getting out of alt? Or do I need to make a change to something in the game to get out?

Alternate inheritance is caused by a vblank in the generation routine. You can't control the vblank.

What causes vblanks? The game needing to stop the creation routine to refresh the graphics. Whatever is causing your creation routine to take a longer time than usual is what's locking you into this "alternate inheritance".

If you aren't saving after getting an egg you should be still locked in if you reset; this is my educated guess :P

If you want to try to get to the regular inheritance, try taking an egg, and take them out of the daycare. Put them back in, and see if that works.
 
Alternate inheritance is caused by a vblank in the generation routine. You can't control the vblank.

What causes vblanks? The game needing to stop the creation routine to refresh the graphics. Whatever is causing your creation routine to take a longer time than usual is what's locking you into this "alternate inheritance".

If you aren't saving after getting an egg you should be still locked in if you reset; this is my educated guess :P

If you want to try to get to the regular inheritance, try taking an egg, and take them out of the daycare. Put them back in, and see if that works.

Thank you. I managed to get out of it last night. I needed to trade my modest Ditto to a friend, so I refused an egg, took them out, cloned the Ditto, and traded with her. Then I put them back and got my frame in 4 tries. Yeah, maybe it does lock into alt if you don't save. This would mean you can aim for a really awesome alt spread.
 
Didn't see the post in regards to sweet scent length:

It's caused by Method H, the gen 3 equivalent to gen4Ns J/K. For now you have to use the trackback method of deduction described in the RNG Research thread. As you know from gen4, different frames can get you the same pokemon based on the method. It's up to you to track back to the nature frame you actually hit, then back to the battle calc, then find the difference from that and the frame you scented on.
 
Didn't see the post in regards to sweet scent length:

It's caused by Method H, the gen 3 equivalent to gen4Ns J/K. For now you have to use the trackback method of deduction described in the RNG Research thread. As you know from gen4, different frames can get you the same pokemon based on the method. It's up to you to track back to the nature frame you actually hit, then back to the battle calc, then find the difference from that and the frame you scented on.
Yeah thanks. I figured out that you're actually hitting the nature frame (or encounter slot frame?) instead of the PID/IV frame, and everything made a lot more sense afterward.
 
I have one more question regarding 3rd gen RNGing. Is it possible to RNG in Ruby and Sapphire? I think I remember reading somewhere that if the internal battery is dead, it works like Emerald's. I was wondering because I caught Rayquaza a long time ago before knowing about RNG, and I don't want to start Emerald over.
 
I have one more question regarding 3rd gen RNGing. Is it possible to RNG in Ruby and Sapphire? I think I remember reading somewhere that if the internal battery is dead, it works like Emerald's. I was wondering because I caught Rayquaza a long time ago before knowing about RNG, and I don't want to start Emerald over.

Yes. Initial seed is 5A0, that's all you need to know if you know Emerald RNG.
 
Okay. I'm confused. I searched RNG Reporter for a good Modest Kyogre frame. So I used method 1, put the seed at 5A0, put Special Attack and Speed at 31, nature at Modest, and clicked Generate. The first one was frame 39,953. Is that correct? No frame before 11 minutes has Modest with 31 Special Attack and Speed? And what are "encounter slots"? Sorry for all the questions. I got Emerald's RNG with ease, but everything else looks really complicated.
 
rs = 5a0 if the battery is dry

1/(31)^2 * 1/25 = 24025, so thats around right.

ignore encounter slots for stationary legends
 
All right. I'll just have to borrow someone else's Emerald for this kind of stuff. It just seems like good frames are more prominent in Emerald. The first modest with 31 Special Attack and Speed is about a minute and a half.
 
Ok, I'm trying to RNG a Misdreavus (encounter slot 7 according to http://www.eggmove.com/encounterheartgold.htm) at Cliff Cave with this PID: 7942EF72. I hit the seed and frame fine, except the pokemon that appears is always Kingler, the encounter slot 3 pokemon.

Any ideas?
(I've also tried changing the seed to one that still has the same PID, but it's Kingler every time).
 
If that ID/SID combo has more than one desired shiny spread yes. I have a document saved that lists spreads that share the same ID/SID combo but I forgot where I got it from...
 
Alright, iI was asking because I wanted to have an HP Flying shiny spread and one with another hidden power. I plan on buying the game today.
 
Alternatively use VBA-RR and run one of the Lua scripts from here. It will display the stats/IVs/nature of the pokemon you're currently battling on the screen. Saves time.

Btw I altered the script to work with Japanese Emerald (follow that link to see it). If it doesn't work on your game let me know. I'm positive the seed memory location is correct but I'm only 99% sure about the enemy pokemon stats/IVs/nature.
 
Alternatively use VBA-RR and run one of the Lua scripts from here. It will display the stats/IVs/nature of the pokemon you're currently battling on the screen. Saves time.

Btw I altered the script to work with Japanese Emerald (follow that link to see it). If it doesn't work on your game let me know. I'm positive the seed memory location is correct but I'm only 99% sure about the enemy pokemon stats/IVs/nature.
Oh thanks! I'll download the emerald one =D
 
I'm about to start abusing my ID/SID for the first time on a cart.

Seed: BB0917BC
Delay: 6065
TID: 10290
SID: 38730
Desired PID: 7951c62d
Year: 2011
Date: 8/21/2011
Time: 9:04:15
Nature: Timid
Ability: 1
IV: 30/22/30/30/30/31 HP Flying 70

My question is, when I miss my delay how do I check what I got?
 
In Pandora's box there is an option to input your Trainer ID as well as the time and stuff. It will display the delay and seconds and SID you actually hit for the time and ID# you put in. Have you done RNG abuse with very high delay before? You can use a code to display your SID to pinpoint it exactly if you want.
 
Ok that's good. When I first did ID/SID abuse that was my first time working with high delays so I had a bit of trouble figuring out what to do when I would keep getting my delay (or close to it) but having the seconds off by more than 1 (but always constant).
 
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