I am not allowed to have things skip my mind. I see how it is.
Since when does Skarmory ever set up stealth rocks anyway?
Since when does Skarmory ever set up stealth rocks anyway?
Jumpluff? That's almost as crazy as running exploud.... Oh wait, nvm. All joking aside about how I run the sonic boom lizard, What is virizion's coverage anyways? Giga drain, focus miss, and what else? Hidden power Ice/fire? Sounds like something that volcorona would love to fight against after some quiver dances are up. If virizion is SO powerful, then how come I'm not seeing this thing more often in OU? I thought virizion was brought down to UU BTW. If it is, then that means there should be checks to it.What if your sleeper is jumpluff?
Where is your god now?
No, Virizion is far from gamebreaking. But it's a good Pokemon in its own respect, and if it can cover the majority of OU threats aside from Volcarona with its CM set, we can consider it solid as it is. In the event of any troublesome Pokemon, let's say Volcarona, simply pack a teammate to counter it. This pretty much goes for any set up sweeper, especially Lucario (so do I get walled by Jellicent or Gliscor?) and Scizor (his method of usage should be fairly obvious). There really are times when coverage isn't the bigger issue. Which is...why we're talking about Celebi, I guess. Hell, even Celebi runs two-move coverage.Jumpluff? That's almost as crazy as running exploud.... Oh wait, nvm. All joking aside about how I run the sonic boom lizard, What is virizion's coverage anyways? Giga drain, focus miss, and what else? Hidden power Ice/fire? Sounds like something that volcorona would love to fight against after some quiver dances are up. If virizion is SO powerful, then how come I'm not seeing this thing more often in OU? I thought virizion was brought down to UU BTW. If it is, then that means there should be checks to it.
Didn't mean to post, but saw this and couldn't resist.it's seems like you tend to like to only use the advantageous parts of your logic while refusing to acknowledge the possibility of losing. so let's use a little bit of common sense. blissey get's 2hko'd by virizion half the time if we go by the MOST LIKELY COMMON SCENARIO of sr on both sides and:
turn 28
blissey switches in
virizion uses calm mind
turn 29
virizion uses focus blast
blissey uses toxic?
turn 30
virizion uses focus blast
blissey dies
50/50
Lol, sorry to inform you but half the usable Sleepers in OU resist Virizion's STABs. And are bulky enough to survive the HP and sleep it in the face, or right out KO it. Of course this is coming from my experiences, and I run a Sun team with Venusaur, who eats Virizion for breakfast.also...why would virizion use cm upon waking up? virizion would most likely come into something such as: ferrothorn, gliscor, jellicent, random stall poke that it likes to snack on. it then calm minds on your switch to your SLEEPER, your so called counter. it can now hit w/e mediocre sleeper you sent out as you use that turn to sleep it. if it wakes up on the insuring turn then skarmory is FUCKED. sturdy be damned because both sides can have all 6 layers for all i care and skarmory will still be FUCKED.
Wait, what? If you're switching Virizion out of Blissey's status move (which, I'll grant, is incredibly obvious) then Blissey just forced Virizion out?oh gee shit super obvious status move let me switch in my excadrill. yeah wow you mean we just engaged in a pokemon battle?! shit fuck this is harder than playing against myself
Blissey isn't an ideal counter to Virizion. It does check it, but it's more of a last-ditch effort that will likely involve switching out to rack up poison damage at some point than a first-choice counter.using blissey to deal with a fighting poke is most of the time not an ideal situation. at the very least i would have hoped you were competent enough to go with the "i use a stall team and i like to run tspikes, so i can just do random switches to rid of virizion while poison racks up" which is an actual viable way for stall teams to deal with a good number of threats, including celebi, volcarona, terrakion, and scrafty for example.
once again, virizion has plenty of counters, but not all will work against every version
Azumarill (provided you have a method to lure/trap Jellicent), Sharpedo, and Gyarados are the best Pokes to spam strong Waterfalls. Physical Non-water Pokes that benefit from rain / fit nicely on many rain teams include Curse Ferrothorn, SD Scizor, SD Virizion, and Metagross, just to name a few.What do you guys think are the best physical rain pokes? I was thinking of abusing SD Scizor.
Duggy has been running reversal with sash for a while now and im assuming you dont mean he discovered duggy trappingguys. a friend of mine (Mynism) just found the best chansey/blissey/weather starter killer ever (at least, IMO). Dugtrio. Now everyone knows that duggy's EQ only deals 30-ish% to Chansey. BUT:
Dugtrio@Expert Belt
Arena Trap
252 Atk 4 Def 252 Spe
Adamant (+atk -sp.atk)
IV's: Enough HP to get 201
-Subsitute
-EQ
-Reversal
-SR/Sucker Punch/Stone Edge
bye bye blissey/ttar/politoed/ninetales. I'm not 100% positive if dugtrio can OHKO chansey with reversal. And yeah, this thing can't deal with Abomasnow if you don't use Stone Edge in the last slot
Simple: you need to set SR up and make Politoed switch out and in at least 17 timesHow is Expert Belt helping Dugtrio beat Politoed
Really, all you need to do to stop a virizion flat out is have blissey or something else really bulky use T-wave...... Virizion sweep is a no go. With LO damage combined with seismic toss, it's not gonna last long. Or you could toxic it to quicken the process, at the risk of having it sweep.
Actually he's using Sub together with Perish Song Politoed.Use of substitute? Yeah I got nothing.