Where is Feraligatr being moved to in the tier categories?
Mega Audino doesn't strike me as potentially broken. Its not too big of a threat offensively and while it's a great wall, it's very passive in that role and isn't so bulky that it can't be broken through. Its Normal typing kinda hurts it too since it removes what would be a very helpful Fighting resist. I just don't see Mega Audino as being above and beyond other bulky NU pokes that perform similar roles.I know everyone keeps talking about how Typhlosion deserves a suspect test, and I don't disagree; however, I feel that both Mega Audino, and to a lesser extent, Mega Camerupt deserve to be included in the discussion. Both of these Pokemon are incredibly difficult to prepare for and can easily sweep even properly prepared teams. With the recent rise of Steelix, Camerupt is a solid option for a team's mega slot and Audino is even more viable as a setup sweeper and bulky attacker. Thoughts?
I agree a Mega Camerupt suspect would be a very realistic option. There is no clear cut solid answer to this Pokemon. Outside of Mantine and Air Balloon Lanturn, there aren't any Pokemon that can switch into its incredibly powerful Fire/Ground/Rock coverage without taking 80% or more. It has a great defensive typing along with solid bulk. Its only crippling weaknesses are its quad-weakness to Water and its absurdly low speed. Definitely a more gray-zone mon and worthy of a suspect.I know everyone keeps talking about how Typhlosion deserves a suspect test, and I don't disagree; however, I feel that both Mega Audino, and to a lesser extent, Mega Camerupt deserve to be included in the discussion. Both of these Pokemon are incredibly difficult to prepare for and can easily sweep even properly prepared teams. With the recent rise of Steelix, Camerupt is a solid option for a team's mega slot and Audino is even more viable as a setup sweeper and bulky attacker. Thoughts?
Yes, for those reasons it didn't qualify for a quick ban not a suspect. The point stands that Mega Camerupt performs fantastically vs balance and has a nice match up versus stall. In the post-Mega Steelix/Heliolisk/Virizion/Qwilfish meta, I would say Mega Camerupt got a huge buff for a number of reasons.I'm of the opinion that that nothing in NU is broken and that maybe we need a typhlosion test (in which id vote no ban). Idk about MAudino yet so im just gonna talk about Rupt.
If you remember, we did quicktest Mega Camerupt in the early stages of ORAS and I believe that the reasons it wasnt banned still apply. Its terrible speed and lack of reliable recovery or lefties make it incredibly easy to wear down. It doesnt match up well against offense at all everything outspeeds and can get off a ton of damage. It also cant switch in on anything before it megas due to its middling 70/70/75 bulk. It doesnt really match up that well against Balance either as most balance teams will be running a Hariyama/Mantine/Bulkeops to deal with Fire Types anyways.
I'm in support of a camel suspect for the reasons stated already but there are quite a few things wrong with your points. You should not be playing with the assumption that typhlosion is flash fire because blaze is still a significantly better ability, and blaze boosted fire blasts are what make typhlosion so good apart from eruption. Typhlosion is still a major threat but it has more than enough checks that are easy to fit on teams while camel has quite a few less due to its outstanding stab combo. Saying that mega camerupt "can't do anything to seismitoad and quagsire unless it runs hp grass" is a stretch. Quagsire is nearly OHKOed by Earth Power and even SpDef Seismitoad takes 50% from earth power, so it only switches in once (non spdef toad takes about 70%).Typh I wouldn't say needs a suspect test. Flash Fire is easy to work around in that if you see your opponent has a Typh don't go firing off (no pun intended) attacks. While now you have to essentially play with the idea that every Typh is FF that's okay it's just how you used to always play assuming it was scarfed. FF is as much a buff as it is a nerf because Blaze FireBlast was amazing in lategame if your opponent had no priority.
Megarupt I am on the fence about because it is a purely offensive mon at this point. Aye you could have rocks, be rest/talk, but no recovery and poop speed.....plus unless it runs HPGrass it can't really do anything to Seis or Quag and it does have a good amount of checks. You could test it but I don't think anything will change really.
MegaAud I feel is much the same now as it was pre-Megalix spam. Either support or Crodino which can be handled easily with hazards and counter typing. Steel types like Mawile and Klang are perfect for countering either Audino as long as it doesn't have Flamethrower (hey it's happened). Garbador, Plume, and Muk pretty much just laugh in its face so yeah
I must say I'm definitely one who's excited for a more stable meta. I'm certainly looking forward as well to a suspect test where the mons being suspected are not definitely broken, and people aren't going into it with that mentality from the start as you say. Both typh and megarupt are debatable as to whether they're broken so it'll be an interesting oneJust to be clear; we aren't assessing a Pokemon's brokenness, we are assessing if something is good enough to be put on the suspect slate with Typhlosion. Suspect =\= Ban (so please don't have that mentality)
Zeb and ras had mentioned previously that NU might have more suspect tests (they should correct me if this is not the case), instead of just holding one when something was clearly broken. This means that multiple threats in the tier could be suspected to assess if they are to good for the tier. The suspect test would be the time to see if its to good for NU, not be forehand.