My advice that comes from not too much experience is to give infernape encore over protect and if you want gyarados to out speed cress invest 44 EV's in speed. For the occasional cress that has 107 speed you might want to give gyarados 52 EV's in speed. how much you invest in speed depends on what specific pokemon you want to out speed I just gave you the EV's for out speeding cress. I'm not going to say too much more in fear of making a fool of myself.
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My advice that comes from not too much experience is to give infernape encore over protect and if you want gyarados to out speed cress invest 44 EV's in speed. For the occasional cress that has 107 speed you might want to give gyarados 52 EV's in speed. how much you invest in speed depends on what specific pokemon you want to out speed I just gave you the EV's for out speeding cress. I'm not going to say too much more in fear of making a fool of myself.
What's the point of that team? I mean, what is your goal? Why did you use those Pokemon over any others? I think a better option would be to make an RMT and link to it here. Too many people seem to think that because they post it in here instead of in the RMT forum it doesn't have to follow the normal rules.
i didnt realize there had to be a point to the team to use it or for it to do good. its just simply a good stuff team. if you look at the list of winning teams thats in the begining of the thread theres not really a point or goal for a lot of them either. theres plenty of examples including
miyagi finals - cresselia/salamence/metagross/zapdos
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chiba finals - metagross/latios/snorlax/gyarados
whats the goal or point of those teams ? and what makes them so different than mine ? there were a lot of winning teams that didnt have some defining strategy to them, they were just simply good pokemon that had good synergy with eachother. im not trying to be deffensive or disrespectful towards you. im just asking because i really dont see it. and tbh ive never done a rmt so i dont really know the rules. i was just talking about pokemon ive been testing out and trying to make more of a discussion out of the thread and get some help with my team building. that could very well be a team that someone would use in the showdown
miyagi finals - cresselia/salamence/metagross/zapdos
or
chiba finals - metagross/latios/snorlax/gyarados
whats the goal or point of those teams ? and what makes them so different than mine ? there were a lot of winning teams that didnt have some defining strategy to them, they were just simply good pokemon that had good synergy with eachother. im not trying to be deffensive or disrespectful towards you. im just asking because i really dont see it. and tbh ive never done a rmt so i dont really know the rules. i was just talking about pokemon ive been testing out and trying to make more of a discussion out of the thread and get some help with my team building. that could very well be a team that someone would use in the showdown
im pretty excited for this, i guess il go to the NY qualifier, its not far away. though im not good at doubles teams, il have to start practicing
i totally agree, most teams that have no real strategy are known as good stuff teams. the name was given to us by our Japanese friend Micuat. goodstuff basically means good pokemon put together no real strategy but it has synergy.
I disagree. They are doing good, but not good to where every person is using them. Over half of the Japanese winners were just 'goodstuffs', and some of them were Trick Room as well. Granted, there are a lot of rain teams, but not as many as I think most of were expecting.
Rain Dance teams are doing well in Japan, but I am afraid that it will not be that way here in America. Many people who do not study Doubles in-depth (a.k.a non-comepetitive battlers) will just look at Izuru Yoshimura's and Knight Silvayne's teams and will assume "Trick Room is teh best stwategy evar lolz!". This will increase the amount of trick room teams, which counters rain dance. Also, trick room will be used by competitive battlers, so I suggest not to use rain dance until you find a way to take care of common threats.
On a side note, assuming the Qualifiers are in California, Denver, Chicago, and New York, what qualifer would you go to? I am probably going to the New York qualifier if there is one (If there isn't, that's ignoring the largest city in the U.S)
If we were going by city size, why the f--- would Denver be selected? Denver is the 26th largest city in the U.S by population, and there are better locations as well. Houston (the 4th largest city) would be a much more reasonable selection as far as distance from the other locations as well as size.
To answer your question, I would go to Chicago if those were the locations. I plan on going pretty much regardless of where the locations are, unless they are ridiculous like last year (though I highly doubt they will be).
is there a restrection on the number of qualifiers a person could attend ?
lets say for example someone went to ny and lost first round, if they wanted to could they travel to another city and participate there because they didnt place ? or do they keep tabs on who plays and where
lets say for example someone went to ny and lost first round, if they wanted to could they travel to another city and participate there because they didnt place ? or do they keep tabs on who plays and where
Just to let you know ny had a qualifier last year so why wouldnt they have one again??? its fairly obvious even if they didnt reveal the locations at this point. they would expand for more locations to accomodate the people who couldnt travel to ny or california
Well i was at last years tourney in nyc. there was a guy who drove from texas to get on the random drawing to get selected cause he didnt get in for the california one. seeing if they still have the lottery system like last year you can but if you can just walk in and battle i dont know
thats not exactly what i meant, sorry i should have been more clear. what i meant was if someone was selected in the drawing and was actually in the tournament but got eliminated before the finals, would they be able to go to another qualifier and play in that tourny too ? or does pui keep tabs on the people who play in each location ? im assuming you need to give your information to play, and have some form of id to prove that you are who you say you are ? if thats the case then they would know every participant in their tournament and would know if someone tried to play in two places to get into the finals
I think I remember when JAA was going on someone here went to multiple qualifiers, however I could be wrong about that and even if I am right it doesn't mean they would allow it for this tournament. You should contact an organizer like zerowing said, but I bet they would say no, but actually wouldn't keep track, but really that's just my guess.
we really dont know. they very well could be
Also, watching some battles (on youtube, like the link Haku posted earlier: http://www.youtube.com/user/pokemontrain) will be helpful for you to get a feel for how double battles are like and how they're really different from single.
Due to the fact that there is not a single site that focuses on Double Battles, user PokemonBattleBrain has created a site and forums dedicated to Double Battles. The site is new, and user FiveKRunner, one of the innovators of the successful Imprison Dusclops Strategy for JAA, is an admin on the forums and his advance double battle guide is up on the site. There are currently a few analysis' completed, and one article completed. A few more analysis' and an article is currently on the way, but it's an up and comming site and it would be cool if a few people wouldn't mind helping out with the site. If you have any questions about the site, you can ask PokemonBattleBrain since he created it, but FiveKRunner and myself might have the answers.
I agree, Rain has been doing pretty well, but it hasn't been dominating. "GoodStuff" has been doing the best, but TR and Rain Dance have both had a fair number of showings in the top 2. However, a lot of American players seem to be using Rain Teams so far, and I think the fact that it's an easier team to make and use might have something to do with it. I think the Rain team consisting of Gyarados/Ludicolo/Kingdra/Metagross that made it to the finals in Japan's nationals last year was a very good team, but the team that won Hyogo was also good. I think in Japan, Goodstuff is the team to beat, but in the US Rain will be the most popular team. So to answer some guy from the last page, yes Rain has done well but hasn't dominated.
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